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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:47 PM
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34. Distorting again
If he supports letting states decide, then he can't hardly turn around and say he wouldn't support the state deciding on civil unions if that's what the state chose. That's what he was saying there. Yes he thinks civil unions was the way to go provided the rights were equal. That isn't to say he supported what some states have done, banning gay marriage outright and offering no protection in its place. He didn't support that, has actively spoken against it. And what does he get in return? His position distorted. How delightful.

I told you I'm not going to argue with you this primary season and I'm not. So that's all I'm going to say.
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  -Gay People Have To Vote ALL THE TIME For Candidates Who Disappoint Them ruggerson  Jan-15-07 11:48 AM   #0 
  - You make some very good points. Recommending.  PelosiFan   Jan-15-07 11:54 AM   #1 
  - You make a fine point...  SteppingRazor   Jan-15-07 11:54 AM   #2 
  - What you said!  wryter2000   Jan-15-07 11:55 AM   #3 
  - Excellent points, nicely put. Recommended.  Richardo   Jan-15-07 11:57 AM   #4 
  - Darn  wryter2000   Jan-15-07 11:58 AM   #5 
  - Excellent points, Ruggerson.  pnwmom   Jan-15-07 11:58 AM   #6 
  - Excellent point, well thought out and articulated.  Marnieworld   Jan-15-07 11:59 AM   #7 
  - His main platform is  ruggerson   Jan-15-07 07:15 PM   #42 
  - Excellente'  mzmolly   Jan-15-07 12:02 PM   #8 
  - actually marriage equality ISN'T my primary concern.  xchrom   Jan-15-07 12:11 PM   #9 
  - Excellent post. You make some great points. I've kicked and recommended.  terrya   Jan-15-07 12:17 PM   #10 
  - Why? Because this IS a democracy and WE get to choose,  Morgana LaFey   Jan-15-07 12:24 PM   #11 
  - There are many people who oppose legal abortion  dsc   Jan-15-07 12:39 PM   #16 
  - I have no idea  Morgana LaFey   Jan-15-07 05:34 PM   #38 
  - "I'm one of the strongest feminists that I've seen at DU...'  Blue-Jay   Jan-16-07 01:19 AM   #49 
  - Still, we appreciate your personal support... *hugs*  election_2004   Jan-16-07 09:59 AM   #53 
  - I am a gay man and I refuse to vote for a candidate  mikelgb   Jan-15-07 12:25 PM   #12 
  - Kucinich was opposed to abortion in most circumstances  dsc   Jan-15-07 12:38 PM   #13 
     - I agree  mikelgb   Jan-15-07 12:58 PM   #20 
  - Do thousands die when politicians oppose gay marriage?  lojasmo   Jan-15-07 12:38 PM   #14 
  - thousands no, several possibly even hundreds, yes  dsc   Jan-15-07 12:43 PM   #18 
  - it depends upon how far you want to go back,  mitchtv   Jan-15-07 09:30 PM   #48 
     - I was just addressing marriage  dsc   Jan-16-07 05:03 AM   #50 
  - Why does it have to be either/or?  terrya   Jan-15-07 12:53 PM   #19 
     - well, I'm sick of it too, but it's an inapropriate analogy. EOM  lojasmo   Jan-15-07 01:09 PM   #24 
  - An Aye on IWR was the biggest failure of Human Rights  Pithy Cherub   Jan-15-07 12:38 PM   #15 
  - spot on  AtomicKitten   Jan-15-07 07:03 PM   #41 
  - My candidate supports equal marriage rights...  MN Against Bush   Jan-15-07 12:41 PM   #17 
  - Not gay marriage, but EQUAL marriage  TechBear_Seattle   Jan-15-07 01:01 PM   #21 
  - I think I reference equal marriage rights  ruggerson   Jan-15-07 06:37 PM   #39 
  - Vote for Wes Clark  Clark2008   Jan-15-07 01:01 PM   #22 
  - Some opposed DOMA  sandnsea   Jan-15-07 01:02 PM   #23 
  - Gays were the third most loyal group of Democratic voters  dsc   Jan-15-07 01:12 PM   #25 
     - He didn't support those amendments  sandnsea   Jan-15-07 03:55 PM   #32 
     - yes he did  dsc   Jan-15-07 04:12 PM   #33 
     - Distorting again  sandnsea   Jan-15-07 04:47 PM   #34 
        - It is not a distortion  dsc   Jan-15-07 04:59 PM   #35 
           - Hi!!!  sandnsea   Jan-15-07 05:18 PM   #37 
              - We bury pipes here (unlike when I was in MS) so I don't have to worry  dsc   Jan-15-07 09:04 PM   #47 
     - Kerry does not support equal marriage rights  ruggerson   Jan-15-07 07:22 PM   #43 
        - word  AtomicKitten   Jan-15-07 07:25 PM   #44 
        - He does not support gay marriage bans  sandnsea   Jan-15-07 08:53 PM   #46 
     - Huh? I think that's impossible - you must mean something else.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-17-07 07:17 PM   #59 
        - Various demographic groups  dsc   Jan-17-07 09:21 PM   #65 
  - Excellent points, food for thought. Thank you. nt  tbyg52   Jan-15-07 01:44 PM   #26 
  - I agree  SanFranciscoValues   Jan-15-07 01:45 PM   #27 
  - I'm not willing to give them a break on either.  Unvanguard   Jan-15-07 02:20 PM   #28 
  - Growing and changing in a positive way is a GOOD thing. I don't understand  Maraya1969   Jan-15-07 02:38 PM   #29 
  - Thanks for your input  mitchtv   Jan-15-07 02:41 PM   #30 
  - Don't know about the rest, but Kerry does NOT support DOMA  LittleClarkie   Jan-15-07 02:49 PM   #31 
  - I'm gay, and while this disappoints me....  Kerry2008   Jan-15-07 05:08 PM   #36 
  - Unfortunately openly supporting gay marriage = Probably won't win a presidential election  MasterDarkNinja   Jan-15-07 06:57 PM   #40 
  - MANY people vote for  KT2000   Jan-15-07 07:54 PM   #45 
  - No they don't "have to." There are other choices. n/t  LWolf   Jan-16-07 07:13 AM   #51 
  - As a gay male, here's how I look at it....  election_2004   Jan-16-07 09:53 AM   #52 
  - This proves that gay people are just like everyone else  Jack Rabbit   Jan-16-07 11:38 AM   #54 
  - Maybe they shouldn't.  Clark2008   Jan-16-07 11:41 AM   #55 
  - Great points but...  BoneDaddy   Jan-16-07 12:13 PM   #56 
  - Then why are some Dems so skittish about supporting civil unions...???  election_2004   Jan-17-07 06:21 PM   #58 
     - Many of the Dems  BoneDaddy   Jan-17-07 09:07 PM   #64 
  - Equal Marriage Is Coming Soon  catgirl   Jan-16-07 05:47 PM   #57 
  - I'm afraid I think you're wildly overoptimistic.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-17-07 07:21 PM   #61 
  - Y'all should vote for General Wes Clark  generaldemocrat   Jan-17-07 07:19 PM   #60 
  - This post makes me sad, because it's true....  marmar   Jan-17-07 07:39 PM   #62 
  - Drug users...  Holloween   Jan-17-07 08:05 PM   #63 

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