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118. Chavez? I Know This ...
I do not live in Venezuala nor do I know anyone who does. I also do not trust what my media pumps down my throat and view everything with a grain of suspicion.
I also know this.
In New England people would freeze without heating oil, literal dead frozen. As the price of oil has risen, so equaly has federal fuel assistance fallen ... Bush's way of saying screw the peons, let them suffer.
Here's what I know about Chavez.
Through his actions Peoples Energy has the ability to offer discounted oil assistance to the truly needy. That is something he gets points for even though I recognize it is a publicity stunt.
But ya know what.
Thats way more caring about the common man than our own glorified leadership cooks up in an entire lifetime.
So who should we be more concerned about?
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  -Hugo Chavez killing democracy sabbat hunter  Jan-09-07 11:51 AM   #0 
  - here we go  mikelgb   Jan-09-07 11:55 AM   #1 
  - no other comment  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:01 PM   #8 
     - Government by Decree: From President to Dictator  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:01 AM   #91 
     - Hmm, sounds like Bush to me.  malikstein   Jan-10-07 02:44 AM   #102 
  - Murdoch's paper is calling control of central banks undemocratic?  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-09-07 11:57 AM   #2 
  - the daily news  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:01 PM   #9 
  - Venezuela's Murdoch  Say_What   Jan-10-07 01:39 AM   #100 
  - Did Bush Sr. piss his pants in that photo,  malikstein   Jan-10-07 02:46 AM   #103 
  - The crying jag? That was so sad! It's terrible when tandem parachute jumping, canned hunters  Judi Lynn   Jan-10-07 04:05 AM   #112 
  - LOL that's a good one... Poppy sure is a cry baby.  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:18 PM   #125 
  - That biographical essay on Cisneros by Richard Gott is wonderful.  Judi Lynn   Jan-10-07 03:55 AM   #110 
  - Yeah...  sendero   Jan-10-07 06:27 AM   #115 
  - how did the national assembly get to be controlled by his allies? Wasn't that an internationally  yurbud   Jan-09-07 11:57 AM   #3 
  - so y ou dont mind  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 11:59 AM   #6 
  - You don't understand. Chavez (and Sheehan) are untouchables  question everything   Jan-09-07 01:19 PM   #45 
  - All those people suck  station agent   Jan-09-07 02:45 PM   #64 
  - "grabbing dictatorial powers"  Hardhead   Jan-11-07 10:26 AM   #181 
  - you guys  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:29 PM   #27 
  - In that case,  malikstein   Jan-10-07 02:49 AM   #104 
     - The Fed is run by a board of governors appointed by the President, confirmed by the Senate  Hippo_Tron   Jan-11-07 03:28 AM   #151 
  - And of course we think those signing statements are just spiffy  LittleClarkie   Jan-09-07 01:44 PM   #55 
     - That's not a bad way of putting it  NobleCynic   Jan-09-07 04:12 PM   #71 
        - BIG difference...  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:15 AM   #92 
           - I've heard even in Alaska, the power there has contrived a way to shell out  Judi Lynn   Jan-10-07 04:00 AM   #111 
              - All Alaskan "residents" get $1,000 a year - but there's talk of change  Divernan   Jan-10-07 11:14 AM   #121 
                 - Thanks for the info. I would have thought the sum was larger.  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 02:52 AM   #148 
  - Hey! Chavez stole the idea of Unitary Executive from *!!! n/t  no_hypocrisy   Jan-09-07 11:58 AM   #4 
  - do two wrongs  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:09 PM   #15 
  - Big difference  ProudDad   Jan-09-07 10:31 PM   #80 
  - Hey ,Look over there...  bahrbearian   Jan-09-07 11:58 AM   #5 
  - you dont care  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:00 PM   #7 
     - Back up your BULLSHIT with some facts. Regurgitating the propaganda you read and are now spewing  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:19 AM   #93 
     - How does what Chavez is proposing differ from executive orders?  eridani   Jan-10-07 12:54 AM   #96 
  - Yeah right - want us to take murdock's rw rag seriously?  mazzarro   Jan-09-07 12:03 PM   #10 
  - once again  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:07 PM   #13 
     - Mort Zuckerman, owner of the NYDNs is on the board of WINEP along with a host of other NeoCons...  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:37 AM   #94 
        - What a shame it is to see an ideologue like Zuckerman controlling "news" outlets. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:23 AM   #150 
  - Well, you do know you're in for it now!  MADem   Jan-09-07 12:05 PM   #11 
  - Do you have any idea what this guy is up against?  station agent   Jan-09-07 12:06 PM   #12 
  - Brian Schweitzer on Chavez: "rats, crooks, dictators..."  wyldwolf   Jan-09-07 12:08 PM   #14 
  - This is standard  BayCityProgressive   Jan-09-07 12:13 PM   #16 
  - Tell Brian Schweitzer to stop "fear mongering"  wyldwolf   Jan-09-07 12:15 PM   #17 
  - Okay  BayCityProgressive   Jan-09-07 12:25 PM   #22 
  - this is standard  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:25 PM   #21 
     - funny  BayCityProgressive   Jan-09-07 12:28 PM   #26 
        - there are a ton of people  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:33 PM   #29 
           - The people of Venezuela  ProudDad   Jan-09-07 10:38 PM   #82 
           - You're totally confused... Here's the law in Venezuela...  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:45 AM   #95 
           - Sorry, double post. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:05 AM   # 
           - "what is to stop chavez from eliminating the assembly thru presidential decree? " Odd!  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:05 AM   #149 
  - Got a link for this quote?  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:25 PM   #23 
  - sure:  wyldwolf   Jan-09-07 12:32 PM   #28 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-09-07 12:44 PM   #34 
  - Is this your hero Brian?  ProudDad   Jan-09-07 10:36 PM   #81 
     - What a dishonest reply.  wyldwolf   Jan-10-07 08:10 PM   #138 
        - "media censoring, political killing Chavez." One can criticize people  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-10-07 09:34 PM   #142 
        - Well, I'll take human rights watch's word over...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 04:56 AM   #160 
           - Did Human Rights watch said he killed someone? Who did he kill?  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-11-07 07:39 AM   #169 
              - .  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 08:09 AM   #174 
                 - This article is from 2003. Have there been any investigations since?  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-11-07 10:05 AM   #178 
                    - You bet. The mayor during that time was Alfredo Pea. Virulent enemy  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 10:14 AM   #179 
                       - so because he's a cuban exile, everything Freedom House does is bogus?  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 10:32 AM   #183 
                          - Please, be my guest: we were discussing "Freedom House" some dork used as a reference  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 10:40 AM   #186 
                             - you're calling a DUer a "dork?" The left always eventually resorts to insults  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 10:51 AM   #188 
                                - Freedom House, cited as a source of information on Venezuela, a paid  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 11:07 AM   #190 
                                - Freedom House was founded by Eleanor Roosevelt  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:17 AM   #192 
                                   - Those people are gone. Frank Calzon's there now.  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 11:23 AM   #194 
                                      - You're rationalization is astounding. All because they've pegged Chavez...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:36 AM   #197 
                                         - Eleanor Roosevelt and her ilk are gone from Freedom House, I fear.  Selatius   Jan-12-07 12:47 AM   #231 
                                            - Isn't disagreement with his methodology what this is about?  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 05:11 AM   #239 
                                - Why don't you read the reference  ProudDad   Jan-12-07 12:15 AM   #227 
                                   - I did, and it isn't  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 05:10 AM   #238 
        - Just saw your reference to "court packing." Maybe I've got some information  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:38 AM   #152 
           - Look at your source...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 05:03 AM   #161 
              - Who is not aware of Jose Vivanco's position toward Hugo Chavez?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 05:53 AM   #162 
                 - ... and Daniel Wilkinson and Joanne Mariner? All have it in for Chavez?  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 06:04 AM   #163 
                    - They're both with HRW, but you didn't know that?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 06:08 AM   #164 
                       - So Human Rights Watch has a vendetta against Chavez?  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 07:37 AM   #168 
                          - There are some sources which were posted by an excellent DU'er last February:  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 09:15 AM   #176 
                             - which still doesn't make it credible. C'mon. 9/11 conspiracies? Wes Clark war criminal??  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 09:18 AM   #177 
                                - Here's an enjoyable line, shared by a great DU'er:  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 10:34 AM   #184 
                                   - Counterpunch again? Let's look at some of their greatest hits...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 10:48 AM   #187 
                                      - I've looked at the first article. What IS it you're trying to say about Counterpunch?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 11:11 AM   #191 
                                         - You agree Gerald Ford was "America's greatest President?"  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:21 AM   #193 
                                            - Am I supposed to agree with what each author writes, or condemn the entire site?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 11:35 AM   #196 
                                            - The website's owner(s) have editorial control.  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:44 AM   #200 
                                               - Yes. Counterpunch is critical of imperialism. You're not.  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 07:34 PM   #221 
                                                  - LOL! And Howard Dean, and Barack Obama, and John Kerry, and Wes Clark...  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 05:12 AM   #240 
                                            - Did you read article? Why does Cockburn like Ford?  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 11:42 AM   #199 
                                               - He's doing a poor job of using hyperbole if that is the case  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:47 AM   #202 
                                                  - Cockburn's article about Ford is a criticisism of imperialism  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 01:54 PM   #206 
                                                     - yes it is, but hardly a reason to call Ford "The Greatest."  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 02:36 PM   #207 
                                                     - Cockburn makes it pretty clear that his measure is failing at imperialism  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 03:08 PM   #208 
                                                     - LOL! Let's don't alter the direction of the discussion  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 03:21 PM   #209 
                                                     - If there is really such a thing as what? n/t  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-11-07 03:43 PM   #210 
                                                     - Change the direction? This whole thread is about imperialism!  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 04:03 PM   #211 
                                                     - the two question you asked were an attempt to veer the discussion...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 06:22 PM   #214 
                                                     - If you like imperialism, that would explain the volume of your posting  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-11-07 07:22 PM   #220 
                                                     - I've found  ProudDad   Jan-12-07 12:18 AM   #228 
                                                     - just when I thought you couldn't get any funnier, now disagreement = "shit-disturber."  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 05:08 AM   #237 
                                                     - "LOL"  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-12-07 11:18 AM   #243 
                                                     - well, when their replies are funny, sad, frightening... you just have to laugh  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 02:27 PM   #247 
                                                     - But those are just labels that have nothing to do with the argument.  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-12-07 07:23 PM   #248 
                                                     - LOL! THAT reply is your funniest yet! Post volume = love of imperialism!  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 05:05 AM   #236 
  - i'll reserve judgement till the weekly world news weighs in..  frylock   Jan-09-07 12:20 PM   #18 
  - How about condemnation by the Int'l Press Institute?  question everything   Jan-09-07 01:29 PM   #47 
  - is this one of the private tv stations that run anti-chavez propaganda 25/8?  frylock   Jan-09-07 02:09 PM   #57 
  - Print media... and yes one of the Golpista news outlets. Owner met with Pedro Carmona  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:57 AM   #97 
  - That would have been the station  malikstein   Jan-10-07 03:23 AM   #106 
  - Whoops! I posted in the wrong place. Excuse, please! Just passin' through. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 10:22 AM   #180 
  - Here's the AP article - I disagree with your spin on it.  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:22 PM   #19 
  - i had the same article  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:27 PM   #24 
     - I repeat, what horse do you have in this race?  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:36 PM   #30 
     - corporate exploitation  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:42 PM   #33 
        - For the third time, I ask - what is your stake in Venezuela's governance?  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:47 PM   #35 
           - What is yours? Your heated defense and justification of hugo makes one wonder...  wyldwolf   Jan-09-07 01:05 PM   #39 
           - I did a master's thesis on Cuba - before and after Castro.  Divernan   Jan-09-07 01:14 PM   #42 
              - What question have you asked me?  wyldwolf   Jan-09-07 01:15 PM   #43 
              - delete  rman   Jan-10-07 03:09 PM   #132 
              - Divernan asked you "what is your stake in Venezuela's governance?"  w4rma   Jan-10-07 06:58 PM   #135 
                 - Don't be obtuse.  wyldwolf   Jan-10-07 08:15 PM   #139 
                    - Post #35: "For the third time, I ask - what is your stake in Venezuela's governance?" (nt)  w4rma   Jan-10-07 08:40 PM   #140 
                       - post 35 was not directed to me.  wyldwolf   Jan-10-07 08:43 PM   #141 
                          - I see. You're right. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-10-07 09:55 PM   #143 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-09-07 10:47 PM   #83 
                 - Wyldwolf has as much right to post his opinion here  Andromeda   Jan-10-07 03:48 AM   #108 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-07 08:19 AM   #120 
           - i have no vested interest in venezuela  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 01:10 PM   #41 
           - Maybe you should save your  zidzi   Jan-09-07 06:44 PM   #77 
           - A purist form of "democracy" is always biased against the poor and the workers.  Ken Burch   Jan-10-07 03:22 AM   #105 
           - Lot's of us have no dog in the fight and distrust Chavez  dmesg   Jan-09-07 02:37 PM   #63 
              - Count me among those who don't trust Hugo. If any other world leader  jefferson_dem   Jan-10-07 02:55 PM   #129 
              - Why do you think Chavez is a demagogue?  rman   Jan-11-07 07:34 AM   #166 
                 - Both are "tyrants" in the technical sense of the term,  dmesg   Jan-11-07 10:40 AM   #185 
                    - What was extraconstitutional about Chavez' rise to power?  rman   Jan-11-07 11:00 AM   #189 
                       - Rewriting the Constitution every time he takes office comes to mind n/t  dmesg   Jan-11-07 11:28 AM   #195 
                          - Did he rewrite the Constitution, or was it not the National Assembly?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 11:37 AM   #198 
                          - Fine. If he's not "President for Life" in 6 years I owe you a dollar  dmesg   Jan-11-07 11:46 AM   #201 
                             - wow! If she's willing to take that bet, you should raise the stakes...  wyldwolf   Jan-11-07 11:49 AM   #203 
                          - Where did you hear that? It's just the usual RW spin. nt  rman   Jan-12-07 02:30 AM   #233 
     - You understand nothing about Venezuelan law see Post # 95  Say_What   Jan-10-07 01:02 AM   #98 
  - Duplicate post  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:22 PM   #20 
  - "Killing Democracy"...  stillcool47   Jan-09-07 12:27 PM   #25 
  - Exactly what dictatorial powers is he taking?  Radical Activist   Jan-09-07 12:37 PM   #31 
  - he wants to rule by decree  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 12:41 PM   #32 
  - Rule WHAT by decree?  Radical Activist   Jan-09-07 12:54 PM   #37 
  - Exactly what I was going to say  Zodiak Ironfist   Jan-09-07 01:08 PM   #40 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-09-07 01:19 PM   #44 
  - what practical political experience do you have  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 01:26 PM   #46 
  - I worked with the nuts and bolts of direct democracy as a legislative lawyer .  Divernan   Jan-09-07 01:39 PM   #50 
     - i did not once  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 02:13 PM   #59 
     - We've exported market fundamentalism which has created more misery.  1932   Jan-10-07 10:02 PM   #146 
  - Democracy and Socialism are not mutually exclusive.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-09-07 04:04 PM   #70 
  - However, there is some evidence that  malikstein   Jan-10-07 03:54 AM   #109 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-07 02:31 AM   #101 
     - I wonder  Radical Activist   Jan-10-07 11:18 AM   #123 
        - If we compare the headlines from the Allende years to those about Chavez  Say_What   Jan-10-07 12:16 PM   #124 
           - So true. Everyone should read The Pinochet File.  1932   Jan-10-07 10:03 PM   #147 
  - he wants to use that power to nationalize the telecomm  paulk   Jan-09-07 06:39 PM   #75 
     - that sounds ok.  Radical Activist   Jan-10-07 11:15 AM   #122 
     - you think it's ok to circumvent the legislative process  paulk   Jan-10-07 12:31 PM   #127 
     - Well  Radical Activist   Jan-10-07 04:48 PM   #133 
        - the Venezuelan system of government  paulk   Jan-11-07 05:37 PM   #213 
     - shutting T V stations  sabbat hunter   Jan-11-07 06:38 PM   #217 
     - compare with "fast track" treaty authoritiy routinely dispensed by congress  0rganism   Jan-10-07 07:13 PM   #136 
        - the telecomm industry in Venezuela is the 2nd largest (behind oil)  paulk   Jan-11-07 05:11 PM   #212 
           - considering the scope of some of the fast-tracked treaties...  0rganism   Jan-12-07 02:19 PM   #245 
  - Isn't that what GWB has declared he can do??  K8-EEE   Jan-09-07 01:42 PM   #52 
  - It seems to me that defending Chavez by equating his actions  NoPasaran   Jan-09-07 06:40 PM   #76 
     - No I'm just sayin'.....  K8-EEE   Jan-09-07 11:23 PM   #89 
  - Would you provide a link to that news? I'd like to see it, having read only today  Judi Lynn   Jan-09-07 10:48 PM   #84 
  - In fact the quote is "greater powers to rule by decree".  endarkenment   Jan-09-07 02:28 PM   #62 
  - What bull shit.  Vidar   Jan-09-07 12:52 PM   #36 
  - "Progressive" means implementing rapid progress/social reform  Divernan   Jan-09-07 12:54 PM   #38 
  - Ven. Central Bank has refused to release it's bloated international reserves  Divernan   Jan-09-07 01:31 PM   #48 
  - i worry  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 01:38 PM   #49 
  - Thank you for caring so darned much about them Venezuelans.  Poll_Blind   Jan-09-07 01:44 PM   #54 
  - Absolutely! The concern is simply overwhelming. Doesn't want any  Judi Lynn   Jan-09-07 10:54 PM   #87 
  - Spend ten minutes a day at the Energy and Environment Forums  ItsTheMediaStupid   Jan-09-07 02:13 PM   #58 
  - Read Amartya Sen an Joe Stiglitz if you want to learn how education and health  1932   Jan-10-07 10:00 PM   #145 
  - How is allowing government control of a central bank undemocratic?  murdoch   Jan-09-07 07:02 PM   #78 
     - Central bank autonomy is a good thing  nick303   Jan-09-07 07:39 PM   #79 
        - Letting the central bank serve capital and harm the average citizen  1932   Jan-10-07 09:58 PM   #144 
           - Anti-Market fundamentalism is also bad for Democracy  Hippo_Tron   Jan-11-07 03:46 AM   #154 
              - any fundamentalism is bad, so opposing fundamentalism is good  rman   Jan-11-07 07:28 AM   #165 
              - I know. Sweden, anyone?  1932   Jan-11-07 07:57 AM   #172 
              - Books suggestions: Globalizationa and its Discontents and Making Globalization  1932   Jan-11-07 07:55 AM   #171 
                 - I'm not advocating market fundamentalism because I think it sucks as well  Hippo_Tron   Jan-11-07 12:25 PM   #205 
                    - I think you're assuming facts not in evidence.  1932   Jan-11-07 09:33 PM   #224 
                    - you have also said opposing market fundamentalism is bad  rman   Jan-12-07 05:16 AM   #241 
  - Did Venezuela have any Democracy to start with?  K8-EEE   Jan-09-07 01:41 PM   #51 
  - the fact  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 02:14 PM   #61 
  - I read somewhere that the oligarchy supported him in first election  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-09-07 02:49 PM   #65 
  - how to fix that:  rman   Jan-10-07 03:05 PM   #130 
  - Why should any corporate entity be "autonomous"  rman   Jan-09-07 01:42 PM   #53 
  - Yes. If cititizens don't get to vote for the CEO and Board of Directors,  PeaceProgProsp   Jan-09-07 02:49 PM   #66 
  - Let's not play "Policeman Of The World" again...  zulchzulu   Jan-09-07 01:49 PM   #56 
  - Cold, cruel, and cynical.  NobleCynic   Jan-09-07 04:14 PM   #72 
  - I like your style...  ellisonz   Jan-11-07 03:43 AM   #153 
  - Would you be good enough to post some links to your information on the "blood on his hands?"  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:56 AM   #159 
  - He was elected by the people who knew exactly what he is.  bowens43   Jan-09-07 02:14 PM   #60 
  - There are LARGE Mexican border towns where 1/2 the population moved abroad  K8-EEE   Jan-09-07 02:53 PM   #67 
  - what are you saying  sabbat hunter   Jan-09-07 03:23 PM   #69 
  - SHIT, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LIVE AS WE DO!!!  ProudDad   Jan-09-07 10:49 PM   #85 
  - wonderful  Leftist78   Jan-09-07 03:15 PM   #68 
  - Chavez has helped his people while in power  NobleCynic   Jan-09-07 04:18 PM   #73 
  - At the risk of getting into trouble here, Hitler helped his people a great deal in the first  DuaneBidoux   Jan-12-07 11:33 AM   #244 
  - Speaking of targets, here's a photo of a poster in an anti-Chavez, opposition demonstration.  Judi Lynn   Jan-09-07 11:02 PM   #88 
  - Odd how DU never trusts the MSM unless it's about Chavez  Luminous Animal   Jan-09-07 06:18 PM   #74 
  - From the same article  ProudDad   Jan-09-07 10:54 PM   #86 
  - i may not like faux  sabbat hunter   Jan-11-07 06:42 PM   #218 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-07 01:28 AM   #99 
  - True that!  JNelson6563   Jan-10-07 06:38 AM   #116 
  - Since there's no such country as "Venezuala"...  Adenoid_Hynkel   Jan-09-07 11:28 PM   #90 
  - Presidential decrees:  malikstein   Jan-10-07 03:45 AM   #107 
  - Excellent post. The Venezuelan President, Rafael Caldera's info. was very interesting.  Judi Lynn   Jan-10-07 04:40 AM   #114 
     - tell me, did you support Perez the 1st time he was elected?  paulk   Jan-11-07 06:35 PM   #216 
  - If I were you,  malikstein   Jan-10-07 04:30 AM   #113 
  - all three that you mentioned  sabbat hunter   Jan-11-07 06:44 PM   #219 
  - Bush has killed democracy here ...  USA_1   Jan-10-07 07:54 AM   #117 
  - Chavez? I Know This ...  primative1   Jan-10-07 08:05 AM   #118 
  - Oh! Thank God we the people control the central bank!!  leesa   Jan-10-07 08:18 AM   #119 
  - You need to assimilate to these two important left-wing principles!  LoZoccolo   Jan-10-07 12:20 PM   #126 
  - Usually anti-democrats  Unvanguard   Jan-10-07 02:39 PM   #128 
  - But  Mikey929   Jan-10-07 03:08 PM   #131 
  - No, he doesn't actually give out "free heating oil," does he?  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:46 AM   #155 
  - Fact: Heating oil at a discount to the poor. Also "period" does not count  rman   Jan-11-07 07:37 AM   #167 
  - I completely agree with you.  DuaneBidoux   Jan-10-07 06:39 PM   #134 
  - We do...  ellisonz   Jan-11-07 03:51 AM   #156 
  - Don't even try that crap around here: claiming DU'ers aren't Democrats.  Judi Lynn   Jan-11-07 03:52 AM   #157 
  - never been right wing  sabbat hunter   Jan-11-07 06:29 PM   #215 
  - I think it is personal if I actually direct it at an individual  DuaneBidoux   Jan-11-07 07:45 PM   #222 
  - your post is beyond ignorant.  jonnyblitz   Jan-11-07 08:06 AM   #173 
     - I don't watch Fox News so I wouldn't know what their talking points are.  DuaneBidoux   Jan-11-07 08:38 PM   #223 
  - As opposed to bush, who simply takes that authority without asking  0rganism   Jan-10-07 07:14 PM   #137 
  - Eliminating autonomy of the central bank is a dumb idea  Hippo_Tron   Jan-11-07 03:52 AM   #158 
  - Right, having an extra-national corporate entity profit from a nation's economy  rman   Jan-11-07 07:41 AM   #170 
     - Putting the central bank under the political process doesn't work  Hippo_Tron   Jan-11-07 12:20 PM   #204 
        - Commercial interests make decisions to make profits, not decisions  rman   Jan-12-07 02:28 AM   #232 
  - Yeah I read that. If his people want to keep electing that's their business.  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-11-07 08:55 AM   #175 
  - Oops, replied to the wrong post (delete please). n/t  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jan-11-07 10:32 AM   #182 
  - Wanna hear what Venezuelans think about it?  antiimperialist   Jan-11-07 09:49 PM   #225 
  - They already spoke up  ProudDad   Jan-12-07 12:22 AM   #229 
  - Sadly, there are too many people on this board who will support a socialist dictator....  ShaneGR   Jan-11-07 10:19 PM   #226 
  - Sadly, there are too many people on this board  ProudDad   Jan-12-07 12:23 AM   #230 
  - "few improvements there are for their people" - that's an outright lie  rman   Jan-12-07 05:01 AM   #235 
  - Go watch more Reality TV  TheWatcher   Jan-12-07 02:59 AM   #234 
  - Chavez is a tool.  nickshepDEM   Jan-12-07 05:56 AM   #242 
     - ..and he's such an anti-imperialist he now has troops in Bolivia.  wyldwolf   Jan-12-07 02:25 PM   #246 
 

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