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Mon Jan-01-07 06:52 AM
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Kerry WAS polling slightly ahead of Edwards in October. As Kerry had very little help from the media and both Edwards were doing puff pieces in September/October, this was not good for Edwards.
Edwards has had positive press and little real tough evaluation of his record.
Edwards has the opposite problem from Kerry. The media wants to like Edwards, but he has very little record being who he says he is. He is now saying he is a grassroots activist. But, 3 million people should have a clear idea of who actually was leading those who wanted to follow since the dark days on Nov 2004. The same person who was an activist on the war, on the environment and on registering young people to vote in the 70s. The same person who in re-introducing his and Wellstone's Clean Election bill credited activists speaking out and being heard as what corrected the government when it was wrong.
When you look at what Edwards is running on, Kerry was there decades before him on most issues. Kerry, by being Kerry and being the person who is more often right, will counter the smear that his own party helped the RW with this time.
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| -Will Kerry endorse Edwards for Pres? |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:11 AM |
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Edwards isn't in a similar position as Lieberman. |
Ninja Jordan |
Jan-01-07 12:12 AM |
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I don't, really. Well, I don't trust him |
illinoisprogressive |
Jan-01-07 12:16 AM |
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I know. You've said it already. |
Ninja Jordan |
Jan-01-07 12:18 AM |
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why do you assume he can't ? |
JI7 |
Jan-01-07 12:21 AM |
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He's a candidate who's never existed before. |
Ninja Jordan |
Jan-01-07 12:23 AM |
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there is a first time for everything.... |
earthlover |
Jan-01-07 01:30 AM |
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You're willing to experiment in '08? |
Ninja Jordan |
Jan-01-07 03:19 AM |
#44 |
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Obama is more than an experiment! |
earthlover |
Jan-01-07 10:55 AM |
#69 |
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Welcome to DU earthlover ~ I like your style |
goclark |
Jan-01-07 02:29 PM |
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thanks |
earthlover |
Jan-01-07 03:45 PM |
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OBAMA 08! |
angry_chuck |
Jan-01-07 03:00 PM |
#81 |
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Excellent posts (this & your previous one)! Welcome to DU, earthlover! |
Sapphire Blue |
Jan-01-07 03:11 PM |
#82 |
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Care to elaborate how Obama shows more 'character' than Gore or Kerry? |
blm |
Jan-02-07 05:12 PM |
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you misrepresented what I said |
earthlover |
Jan-02-07 05:51 PM |
#119 |
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Well, the implication is that we haven't judged them on character in the past. |
blm |
Jan-03-07 08:17 AM |
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not what I said...again |
earthlover |
Jan-03-07 05:18 PM |
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Well stated! |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-01-07 10:31 AM |
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BINGO! Obama will not ride on the back of the bus |
goclark |
Jan-01-07 02:19 PM |
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NJ, I think the places Obama can't win because of his race |
charlyvi |
Jan-02-07 12:43 PM |
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One of the beauties of an Obama candidacy is that there won't be red states or blue states... |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-01-07 10:28 AM |
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Barack Obama seems like a sensible breath of fresh air, McCain-types are |
Imagevision |
Jan-01-07 11:08 PM |
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I don't like liberman, and I am not crazy about Edwards either |
still_one |
Jan-01-07 12:18 AM |
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No, Kerry's running. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:12 AM |
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haha |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:14 AM |
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He looks like he's running to me |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 12:47 AM |
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Seems he is running, but you may have superior information that you care sharing with us. |
Mass |
Jan-01-07 08:11 AM |
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I have a good hunch he is. HA, HA,HA !! Go Kerry! n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-01-07 01:18 PM |
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No way. Kerry might even run against him. Have faith! nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-01-07 12:13 AM |
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Both Edwards and Kerry voted for the IWR |
still_one |
Jan-01-07 01:41 AM |
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Whatever. You vote for the best candidate. I know there's thinking on |
babylonsister |
Jan-01-07 02:04 AM |
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It is more than just the IWR, it was also the lack of calling the administration on violating |
still_one |
Jan-01-07 12:03 PM |
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Kerry OFTEN cited Bush not implementing the IWR guidelines and too many on the |
blm |
Jan-02-07 09:53 AM |
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Not true in Kerry's case. |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 06:02 AM |
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Why wasn't it brought up in Congress when the administration violated the terms of the IWR? |
still_one |
Jan-01-07 11:54 AM |
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In 2004, Kerry on a daily basis listed the things Bush |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 04:48 PM |
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The debates I agree with you on, but there were enough contradictions from Kerry |
still_one |
Jan-01-07 05:41 PM |
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All I can say is that he very very easily beat your candidate |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 10:41 PM |
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I am not sure what you are referring to by saying he very easily beat "MY" candidate |
still_one |
Jan-02-07 08:36 AM |
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I apologize for assuming that you likely supported Dean in the primaries |
karynnj |
Jan-02-07 10:46 AM |
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no need to appologize, unless of course you thought bush was my candidate, LOL |
still_one |
Jan-02-07 08:56 PM |
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I don't think Kerry will endorse anyone but himself... |
illinoisprogressive |
Jan-01-07 12:15 AM |
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Superman Returns.... |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:16 AM |
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if Edwards wins the nomination |
JI7 |
Jan-01-07 12:16 AM |
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seriously, |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:23 AM |
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Seriously, how do you know? |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:25 AM |
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right now, |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:34 AM |
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You have officially had too much to drink |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 12:54 AM |
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karynnj... |
babylonsister |
Jan-01-07 09:37 AM |
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Kerry hasn't made the motions? |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:36 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-01-07 12:52 AM |
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Who Cares? Any republican Who Runs is Going To Get their Ass Kicked |
BeatleBoot |
Jan-01-07 12:40 AM |
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never underestimate your enemy |
leo8888 |
Jan-01-07 12:14 PM |
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Doesn't it make sense now why Gore bypassed Lieberman? |
Mind_your_head |
Jan-01-07 12:45 AM |
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I second that. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:46 AM |
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And Gore and Kerry have every right to run if they want to n/t |
politicasista |
Jan-01-07 12:49 AM |
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They sure do. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:51 AM |
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I'm sort of trusting that....."cheat me once....won't get cheated again" |
Mind_your_head |
Jan-01-07 01:00 AM |
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Gore might, |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:53 AM |
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You think Gore might, but Kerry won't? |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:55 AM |
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well, how do you know Kerry is running? |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 12:56 AM |
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I don't. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 12:57 AM |
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are you Kerry's stepson? |
Superman Returns |
Jan-01-07 01:09 AM |
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He hasn't posted here since late 2004-2005 n/t |
politicasista |
Jan-01-07 01:13 AM |
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I am looking forward to a Democratic Congress |
politicasista |
Jan-01-07 12:45 AM |
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kerry would get swiftboated again |
stranger |
Jan-01-07 01:19 AM |
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How do you know that? Where does your knowledge come from, |
babylonsister |
Jan-01-07 02:09 AM |
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Kerry is damaged goods |
stranger |
Jan-01-07 04:26 AM |
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Kerry is not gaffe prone and he IS a patriot |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 06:38 AM |
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OK, gotcha. It's your 'personal' opinion. And I'm sure you have |
babylonsister |
Jan-01-07 09:16 AM |
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I think the swift boat is a one act play...it got played out. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-01-07 02:26 AM |
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The Swiftboaters have been utterly discredited and debunked |
zulchzulu |
Jan-01-07 02:41 AM |
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I really wish that were true |
Jai4WKC08 |
Jan-01-07 01:20 PM |
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Creating a lie to attack a Dem didn't start and won't stop with Kerry. In fact, it PROVES |
blm |
Jan-02-07 08:37 AM |
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Facts... Gore was known far and wide as the LIAR...the man who |
ray of light |
Jan-02-07 07:46 PM |
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Sure! |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-01-07 02:15 AM |
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Not if he's running |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-01-07 02:26 AM |
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Why would Kerry endorse Edwards while he is beating him in the primaries? |
zulchzulu |
Jan-01-07 02:38 AM |
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Whether Kerry endorses Edwards or not (and I couldn't care |
cali |
Jan-01-07 03:14 AM |
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This is a year out |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 06:52 AM |
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I have a lot of admiration, respect and fondness |
cali |
Jan-01-07 08:27 AM |
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We all have our opinions. |
Mass |
Jan-01-07 08:41 AM |
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What??? |
cali |
Jan-01-07 08:55 AM |
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Kerry will have an uphill battle in '08. |
Ninja Jordan |
Jan-01-07 05:44 PM |
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You ignore that on all the substanitive things, it was a great year |
karynnj |
Jan-03-07 11:38 AM |
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Kerry won't endorse Edwards - Yet - |
lynne |
Jan-01-07 04:19 AM |
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Why should he? |
Mass |
Jan-01-07 08:09 AM |
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Really good question |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 08:14 AM |
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i would most definitely NOT want Kerrys endorsement. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-01-07 09:31 AM |
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I would not want him to endorse you |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 09:43 AM |
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i predict some well-timed wisdom on his part... |
k_jerome |
Jan-01-07 10:04 AM |
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The series of debates will sort any of our assumptions at this point, won't they? |
blm |
Jan-02-07 11:10 AM |
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I would NOT want Hillarys endorsement. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 09:47 AM |
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i think you will get your wish. nt. |
k_jerome |
Jan-01-07 10:06 AM |
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The coverup wing of the party really DOES want the anti-corruption, open government wing |
blm |
Jan-02-07 08:40 AM |
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Ha, ha. So Edwards is dusting off his anti-Kerry routine. |
dailykoff |
Jan-01-07 09:33 AM |
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It's odd because in some ways he's copying Kerry |
karynnj |
Jan-01-07 10:03 AM |
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I like Edwards. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-01-07 10:13 AM |
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Kerry on Gore's endorsement of Dean |
Sparkly |
Jan-01-07 10:34 AM |
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You can count on Kerry endorsing the Democratic nominee and |
cadmium |
Jan-01-07 11:14 AM |
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If Edwards won the nomination, he would |
TayTay |
Jan-01-07 11:29 AM |
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For the good of the party I hope he endorses some one other than himself. |
against all enemies |
Jan-01-07 11:31 AM |
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Kerry will make the best President! No caparison with any others. |
wisteria |
Jan-01-07 01:22 PM |
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Kerry can't win the primaries, never mind the general election. |
against all enemies |
Jan-01-07 03:30 PM |
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Exactly what everybody said in '03. |
dailykoff |
Jan-01-07 05:48 PM |
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Says who? You? Kerry has more to offer this time than last |
wisteria |
Jan-01-07 08:08 PM |
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Kerry in December 2003: When will he drop out? |
zulchzulu |
Jan-01-07 08:45 PM |
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Kerry is everything we don't need |
Superman Returns |
Jan-02-07 01:10 AM |
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Why don't you buy a TV |
dailykoff |
Jan-02-07 01:27 AM |
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well, |
Superman Returns |
Jan-02-07 02:02 AM |
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They didn't do it '04, did they? |
dailykoff |
Jan-02-07 10:07 AM |
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Using lack of experience as a party platform is um... |
zulchzulu |
Jan-02-07 06:55 AM |
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Kerry is EVERYTHING this country REALLY NEEDS - Anti-corruption, open government |
blm |
Jan-02-07 09:14 AM |
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except he NEVER talks about that |
talk hard |
Jan-02-07 07:56 PM |
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Clinton's coverup DNC team was in place during that campaign. No backup. |
blm |
Jan-03-07 08:23 AM |
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you keeping saying that & it's still a lame excuse |
talk hard |
Jan-03-07 11:45 AM |
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That speaks to YOUR judgement. Clintons/Bushes would dump you and your family |
blm |
Jan-03-07 12:15 PM |
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and that is YOUR opinion |
talk hard |
Jan-03-07 12:28 PM |
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If he cared about his political ass he would've helped cover up IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning |
blm |
Jan-03-07 12:32 PM |
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being snotty doesnt' prove your point -- |
talk hard |
Jan-03-07 12:36 PM |
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No spin necessary when you have so few anti-corruption, open government heroes. |
blm |
Jan-03-07 12:47 PM |
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Your post demonstrates that you have NO clue about Kerry's record. n/t |
MH1 |
Jan-02-07 10:56 AM |
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and your exagerated claims about it aren't valid either |
talk hard |
Jan-02-07 07:57 PM |
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The most protected president in history who had the last Dem president publically supporting |
blm |
Jan-02-07 05:41 PM |
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Does it matter? nt |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-01-07 03:13 PM |
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Why ask such a question when we don't know yet who will be running? |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-01-07 11:33 PM |
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Of course he will - if Edwards wins the nomination |
MaineDem |
Jan-02-07 11:21 AM |
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Yes, yet another "Bash Kerry" thread. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-02-07 12:16 PM |
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Yep...it was meant to be that... |
zulchzulu |
Jan-02-07 01:16 PM |
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Absolutely. It was very poor taste. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-02-07 01:29 PM |
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OMG, by no means count out Kerry. He is in IMO, until I hear otherwise from him. |
wisteria |
Jan-02-07 01:43 PM |
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That was not my point for this thread |
Superman Returns |
Jan-02-07 04:40 PM |
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What question? |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-02-07 08:02 PM |
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lets be honest |
Superman Returns |
Jan-02-07 10:53 PM |
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Honestly, yes, I think Kerry's chances are better this time. |
wisteria |
Jan-03-07 09:26 AM |
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The other thing is that - this is likely to be a much easier race |
karynnj |
Jan-03-07 11:28 AM |
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All very good points. I agree with them all. n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-03-07 12:22 PM |
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I have lists and lists of people who do. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-03-07 11:21 AM |
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If Kerry doesn't run, I wouldn't count on him endorsing Edwards |
TheDonkey |
Jan-02-07 03:36 PM |
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I don't think Kerry would endorse Edwards |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-02-07 03:55 PM |
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What's your point, Superman Returns? |
WesDem |
Jan-03-07 11:28 AM |
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Of course it's rude. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-03-07 11:31 AM |
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Thank you, you are correct-rude and I'll add uncalled for. n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-03-07 12:19 PM |
#136 |