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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:50 AM
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83. Reading this, my conclusions are:
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 08:52 AM by karynnj
That in 1972 on a college campus, Edwards was for the first time in an environment where he was seeing a point of view different than the Republican 1950s "government knows best" mentality. I assume that NCSU was less anti-war than many other colleges, but I seriously doubt that there were many colleges without a significant anti-war contingent. (Indiana University in 1970 or 1971 had a student vote on the issue - and the "US out of Asia" sentiment was around 95%)

His roommate clams that he (the roommate) was "in the direction of protesting the war". This was not an election where people thought the candidates were similar. It was a choice. This was John Edwards' first vote for President (based on his age). I remember distinctly actually voting - in both the primary in Bloomington, Ind and the general election in NJ - for McGovern. (I remember who I voted for in subsequent years - but do not have the crystal clear visual memory of going into a building to vote that I have with the first vote. )

I do not find it believable that he "forgot" who he voted for. I suspect that he is part of the demographic that accounted for polls taken in 1973 and 1974 showing a higher proportion of people voting for McGovern than really did. The liklihood is that he - as many Democrats did - voted for Nixon and likely wishes he didn't. I would be impressed if he simply said that. That said who he (or Clark) voted for 34 years ago is irrelevant. This was a VERY long time ago and people do change. That vote (sad for me as one who canvassed in a red county for McGovern) was a landslide. I suspect there were more "Don't blame me, I voted for McGovern buttons" than McGovern voters.
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  -Did Wesley Clark really say he "probably" voted for Richard Nixon? k_jerome  Dec-25-06 12:37 PM   #0 
  - Yes, he did, and so did I  48percenter   Dec-25-06 12:41 PM   #1 
  - Wow, thanks 48percenter!  graywarrior   Dec-25-06 12:45 PM   #5 
  - Thank Tom Rinaldo  48percenter   Dec-25-06 12:49 PM   #7 
  - people who fell for the bullshit of Reagan and Bush I  Skittles   Dec-25-06 07:37 PM   #54 
  - Oh, you are SO all KNOWING  48percenter   Dec-26-06 01:17 AM   #69 
     - HEY  Skittles   Dec-26-06 01:45 AM   #70 
  - Edwards/Clark 2008  Hieronymus   Dec-26-06 01:58 AM   #71 
  - Think of him as...  bookman   Dec-25-06 12:42 PM   #2 
  - He also  bowens43   Dec-25-06 12:44 PM   #3 
  - Oh bowens, we all know who you support, stop bashing Clark  48percenter   Dec-25-06 12:45 PM   #4 
  - found this quote...  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 12:45 PM   #6 
  - I, for one, think that Mr. O'Neill was wrong.  Maat   Dec-25-06 12:54 PM   #9 
  - Excuse me, but Clark was against this war from the get go  greenman3610   Dec-25-06 02:35 PM   #32 
     - Oh, I know that (and I agree)!  Maat   Dec-25-06 04:23 PM   #40 
  - You post this while using a HIllary Clinton avatar?  last1standing   Dec-25-06 01:48 PM   #25 
  - Clark didnt suddenly become antiwar ....  Trajan   Dec-25-06 03:26 PM   #34 
  - It amazes me that people still think some  48percenter   Dec-25-06 12:51 PM   #8 
  - I don't believe he ever voted for Bush/Cheney.  rep the dems   Dec-25-06 12:57 PM   #10 
  - Clark has the same voting record I do...  48percenter   Dec-25-06 01:18 PM   #15 
  - People change.  cornermouse   Dec-25-06 01:00 PM   #11 
  - What has any of that to do with him being a valid candidate?  MGKrebs   Dec-25-06 01:16 PM   #14 
  - I voted for Richard Nixon  Leilani   Dec-25-06 01:10 PM   #12 
  - thanks for giving credence to that bullshit. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 01:12 PM   #13 
  - It's not bullshit!  Leilani   Dec-25-06 01:19 PM   #16 
  - please share the stories of Democrats hating the military. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 01:20 PM   #18 
  - Your post pissed me off so much  Leilani   Dec-25-06 02:07 PM   #28 
     - if it pissed you off that i questioned a former warmonger and  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 02:10 PM   #29 
     - Ah, coming from a big war supporter  Pithy Cherub   Dec-25-06 02:29 PM   #31 
     - Democrats or just leftwing hippie activists?  Ninja Jordan   Dec-25-06 10:07 PM   #65 
  - jeebus  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Dec-25-06 01:26 PM   #21 
     - George McGovern was an honorable man  Leilani   Dec-25-06 01:53 PM   #26 
        - Bolsheviks.  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Dec-25-06 02:03 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-25-06 01:19 PM   #17 
     - no. DLC'er of course. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 01:21 PM   #20 
     - Neat  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Dec-25-06 01:33 PM   #22 
     - Thanks for showing a clear record of distrubtion  karynnj   Dec-25-06 01:46 PM   #23 
     - please explain #1. thanks. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 01:48 PM   #24 
     - This poster is a con. Betcha ten to one  48percenter   Dec-25-06 02:17 PM   #30 
        - Karynnj is *not* a conservative  rockymountaindem   Dec-25-06 03:58 PM   #36 
           - I think he's speaking of the OP and agreeing with me  karynnj   Dec-25-06 05:53 PM   #46 
           - It's official...  rockymountaindem   Dec-25-06 11:21 PM   #66 
              - no need to apologize - I appreciate that you defended when you thought I was attacked.  karynnj   Dec-26-06 08:25 AM   #80 
           - I believe the post was in reference to k_jerome, and not to Karynnj.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 06:02 PM   #51 
           - No not Karryn, k-jerome!!!  48percenter   Dec-26-06 01:13 AM   #68 
              - Yeah, that comment was a swing and a miss on my part  rockymountaindem   Dec-26-06 02:27 AM   #73 
                 - No problem, sometimes its hard to tell which person the comment is for  48percenter   Dec-26-06 08:43 AM   #82 
     - Now I remember .... THANKS for collecting these ....  Trajan   Dec-25-06 03:30 PM   #35 
     - He's just playing Satan Claus for DU  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 05:59 PM   #50 
  - Really?  KingFlorez   Dec-25-06 08:02 PM   #56 
  - .  fujiyama   Dec-26-06 03:32 AM   #76 
  - I heard Tom Vilsack hunts homeless people for sport  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Dec-25-06 01:20 PM   #19 
  - Hey, any kind of hunting would get him some votes down here...  renie408   Dec-25-06 05:57 PM   #49 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-06 12:52 AM   #67 
  - So what?  Infinite Hope   Dec-25-06 02:52 PM   #33 
  - I believe that I've read before  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 06:08 PM   #52 
     - Gotcha. I took it as...  Infinite Hope   Dec-26-06 02:48 AM   #74 
  - Was Hillary Clinton really a Goldwater girl?  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 04:02 PM   #37 
  - didn't Wes Clark say he "probably" would have voted for the IWR? nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 04:19 PM   #39 
     - Well, his testimony before the Congress  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 05:49 PM   #45 
     - I think Clark would've voted for Biden/Lugar  Hippo_Tron   Dec-26-06 05:12 AM   #77 
  - So what! He used to vote conservative. At least he is upfront and honest about his opinions.  wisteria   Dec-25-06 04:02 PM   #38 
  - yeah, he's "probably" being totally upfront. nt.  k_jerome   Dec-25-06 04:23 PM   #41 
  - I would trust Clark to be truthful more than I would trust others. n/t  wisteria   Dec-25-06 08:16 PM   #57 
  - I agree!  Catchawave   Dec-25-06 04:55 PM   #42 
  - considering the issue Hillary has led on is video game ratings  JI7   Dec-25-06 05:07 PM   #43 
  - He was in the republican party back then  MODemocrat   Dec-25-06 05:18 PM   #44 
  - He was never a member of the Republican party.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-25-06 05:55 PM   #47 
  - Ok, I gotta confess..."Hey Mickey" was one of my favorite songs  renie408   Dec-25-06 05:56 PM   #48 
  - Clark has worked a helluva lot harder in  cadmium   Dec-25-06 06:20 PM   #53 
  - Who cares?  MH1   Dec-25-06 07:50 PM   #55 
  - Stayed out of it and kept focused on real issues  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-25-06 08:58 PM   #58 
  - Wes Clark wrote this:  seasonedblue   Dec-25-06 09:19 PM   #61 
     - Thank you, that's what I was looking for.  MH1   Dec-25-06 09:59 PM   #63 
  - Did you see what he did for the 2006 election?  high density   Dec-25-06 09:11 PM   #59 
  - Nope - that was John Edwards who said that.  Clark2008   Dec-25-06 09:11 PM   #60 
  - Reading this, my conclusions are:  karynnj   Dec-26-06 08:50 AM   #83 
  - Who cares? nt  Clarkie1   Dec-25-06 09:35 PM   #62 
  - he voted for nixon and reagan  MATTMAN   Dec-25-06 10:00 PM   #64 
  - FLAME WAR thread if ever I've seen one. k_jerome knows better - shame on them.  larissa   Dec-26-06 02:00 AM   #72 
  - So what if he did?  fujiyama   Dec-26-06 03:26 AM   #75 
  - Nixon would be 40 years ago.  Clark2008   Dec-26-06 07:19 AM   #78 
  - A more important question:  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-26-06 08:24 AM   #79 
  - In Clark's defense, people actually do change political opinions over time  zulchzulu   Dec-26-06 08:31 AM   #81 
  - It was decades ago  TayTay   Dec-26-06 09:04 AM   #84 
  - Whats with this k_jerome poster?  Kerry2008   Dec-26-06 09:42 AM   #85 
  - Locking  The Magistrate   Dec-26-06 11:39 AM   #86 
 

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