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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-25-06 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #9
15. why assume that any Democrat to Clinton' left would've been unsuccessful?
Clinton won on personal charisma and rapid response to smears and attacks. He would have been elected as a real Democrat had he chosen to run on his original principles.
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  -Another reason to kick James Carville out of the party Ken Burch  Dec-25-06 08:16 AM   #0 
  - thanks for this information  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-25-06 08:22 AM   #1 
  - You all sound like republicans eating your own  niceypoo   Dec-25-06 09:50 AM   #21 
     - Howard Dean has never been a collaborator with an extreme right-wing movement  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 09:56 AM   #22 
     - Actually, as Governor, Dean did work for energy deregulation/  cryingshame   Dec-25-06 10:22 AM   #24 
     - Nicely summed up, though maybe "the violent domination by the rich"  lostnfound   Dec-26-06 06:45 AM   #82 
        - Oh, yeah, you're right.  Ken Burch   Dec-27-06 07:34 AM   #94 
           - LOL. Unfit to tie his shoes, or shine them. nt  lostnfound   Dec-27-06 08:17 AM   #96 
     - But who gets credit for Clinton's victory?  karynnj   Dec-25-06 10:51 AM   #27 
     - Yeah, caville is a god-  zidzi   Dec-25-06 10:58 AM   #30 
     - Any one who would marry such a horrid Right Wing Operative  ShortnFiery   Dec-25-06 04:49 PM   #54 
     - Carville needs be told when he steps over the line.  cyclezealot   Dec-25-06 11:24 AM   #32 
     - Not ready to kick him out? Are you serious? What does he have to do?  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-25-06 05:02 PM   #57 
        - Pinochet.?  cyclezealot   Dec-25-06 05:13 PM   #60 
           - It would REALLY be due cause  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 05:16 PM   #63 
     - ...  cui bono   Dec-25-06 07:12 PM   #70 
  - His marriage compromised his moral and political values  Divernan   Dec-25-06 08:29 AM   #2 
  - I agree - it's a fact of nature - you have to adapt to your environment or leave  suziedemocrat   Dec-25-06 10:15 AM   #23 
  - Yes indeed. He's been brainwashed.  mzmolly   Dec-25-06 12:19 PM   #37 
  - Once A DLCer, Always A DLCer - Applies To The Clintons As Well  lostnotforgotten   Dec-25-06 08:35 AM   #3 
  - That's what republicans say to try and co-opt Clinton's success.  tabasco   Dec-25-06 08:44 AM   #5 
  - Agreed - But Clinton Was Not A Progressive - Successful Yes But Not A Dem  lostnotforgotten   Dec-25-06 08:49 AM   #6 
  - The country had peace and prosperity for eight years.  tabasco   Dec-25-06 09:01 AM   #9 
  - why assume that any Democrat to Clinton' left would've been unsuccessful?  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 09:28 AM   #15 
  - and he ran against a very unpopular President  karynnj   Dec-25-06 10:53 AM   #29 
  - Well, a Republican Congress after 1994.  tabasco   Dec-26-06 06:52 AM   #83 
     - You're right about the GOP Congress.  Ken Burch   Dec-26-06 12:09 PM   #89 
  - Whatever Progress That Was Made Under Clinton Has Been Destroyed By Bush  lostnotforgotten   Dec-25-06 09:30 AM   #16 
  - From what I understand, the wages of most working people remained low,  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-25-06 05:07 PM   #59 
  - then you must get your talking points from someplace other than reality  wyldwolf   Dec-25-06 08:27 PM   #73 
     - Sure.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-26-06 12:12 PM   #90 
  - peace? prosperity?  MockSwede   Dec-26-06 09:08 AM   #86 
     - The poster was refering to Clinton's eight years  Nederland   Dec-26-06 10:59 AM   #88 
  - Clinton was most definitely a Democrat.  Ravy   Dec-25-06 12:19 PM   #36 
  - He's a Democrat  talk hard   Dec-25-06 04:21 PM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-25-06 12:33 PM   #40 
  - It doesn't take support of NAFTA, punitive welfare legislation, and increased executions  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 12:48 PM   #42 
  - And That's Why Clinton Was Such A Good Republican  lostnotforgotten   Dec-25-06 01:17 PM   #45 
  - Excuse Me - Are You calling Me A Pimple On Clinton's Ass?  lostnotforgotten   Dec-25-06 01:19 PM   #46 
     - No. What I said is that you wouldn't make a pimple on Bill's ass, but it got deleted  mtnsnake   Dec-25-06 06:57 PM   #69 
        - I wish I could nominate single posts to the greatest page!  wyldwolf   Dec-25-06 08:34 PM   #75 
  - Yet the Democratic Party nominated him twice  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-26-06 05:38 PM   #93 
  - no, republicans don't say that  mopinko   Dec-25-06 10:36 AM   #26 
  - And Clinton did nothing  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 04:50 PM   #56 
     - Really? How?  wyldwolf   Dec-25-06 08:56 PM   #76 
  - Thank God the nightmare of the Clinton Presidency is over  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-26-06 01:37 PM   #92 
  - He exemplifies a big part of the Dem party  confludemocrat   Dec-25-06 08:43 AM   #4 
  - Carville represents the wealthy wing of the Democratic Party  IndianaGreen   Dec-25-06 02:52 PM   #47 
  - I've been saying this for a while now...  ret5hd   Dec-25-06 08:53 AM   #7 
  - I agree with Carville  MethuenProgressive   Dec-25-06 09:00 AM   #8 
  - I am reluctant to call Carville  durtee librul   Dec-25-06 09:05 AM   #11 
  - What the hell do you mean Chavez wouldn't call himself a democrat?  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 09:26 AM   #14 
  - History says so, my Red friend...  MethuenProgressive   Dec-25-06 11:33 AM   #33 
     - Quite a response.  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 12:01 PM   #35 
     - Wow, so much to correct - where's my Red pencil?  MethuenProgressive   Dec-25-06 12:23 PM   #38 
        - Will Rogers would never back the right wing candidate against Hugo Chavez  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 12:45 PM   #41 
           - You have nothing but Republican-style rhetoric to offer as response?  MethuenProgressive   Dec-25-06 12:59 PM   #43 
              - Excuse me, but logically, you can't hate the Republicans AND the left  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 01:02 PM   #44 
                 - Ignore him. Literally. Put him on ignore. He lost me with  Morgana LaFey   Dec-25-06 05:16 PM   #64 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-25-06 05:33 PM   #68 
                       - I'm a "McCarthyite shitbag" - to quote this Ken Burch person  MethuenProgressive   Dec-25-06 09:58 PM   #79 
                          - There was no excuse for you to call me "Red"  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 11:26 PM   #81 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-06 07:11 AM   #84 
     - Your many is the usual "many" alluded to by the Republicans, i.e.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-25-06 05:14 PM   #61 
  - Izzat so? THE LIES BEING TOLD ABOUT HUGO CHAVEZ...  Contrite   Dec-25-06 08:23 PM   #72 
  - Sorry.  Donkeykick   Dec-25-06 09:04 AM   #10 
  - But yet, we insist on calling the USA a democracy...  ret5hd   Dec-25-06 09:16 AM   #12 
     - I Agree.  Donkeykick   Dec-25-06 09:38 AM   #17 
        - Good find? It's the most obvious thing i could think of.  ret5hd   Dec-25-06 09:41 AM   #18 
           - Yes.  Donkeykick   Dec-25-06 09:50 AM   #20 
  - He did a great job with the Clinton campaign HOWEVER  hollowdweller   Dec-25-06 09:25 AM   #13 
  - When Carville married the witch Matlin  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-25-06 09:49 AM   #19 
  - I got a request for money  tbyg52   Dec-25-06 10:36 AM   #25 
  - they called my husband and asked for $100. I only wish I got the call...  mod mom   Dec-25-06 11:59 AM   #34 
  - this exposes the true agenda of the "centrist" Democrats  leftofthedial   Dec-25-06 10:52 AM   #28 
  - They are secular Republicans in essence  IndianaGreen   Dec-25-06 02:58 PM   #49 
  - 30 pieces of silver.  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-25-06 11:00 AM   #31 
  - Habla espanol James Carville?  roody   Dec-25-06 12:24 PM   #39 
  - He probably speaks some Spanish to his undocumented Guatemalan maid  IndianaGreen   Dec-25-06 02:55 PM   #48 
  - Great logic, Ken. Yup, let's kick 1 of the strongest Dems out so we can lose in '08 again  mtnsnake   Dec-25-06 04:29 PM   #51 
  - How do you figure Carville is still strong?  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 04:46 PM   #53 
  - The Dems have owed zilch to Carville since at least the run-up to  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-25-06 05:21 PM   #66 
  - Carville has been bending over to Bush since he became Mr. Matalin  IndianaGreen   Dec-25-06 08:07 PM   #71 
     - You spin this Hillary/Carville stuff so much that you're starting to believe it yourself  mtnsnake   Dec-25-06 09:31 PM   #78 
  - How can anybody be kicked out of the party?  talk hard   Dec-25-06 04:33 PM   #52 
  - OK, we can't literally expel his sorry, reactionary, social justice-hating ass  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 04:50 PM   #55 
     - so can we safely say you hate his guts?  talk hard   Dec-25-06 05:06 PM   #58 
        - I dislike HIM.  Ken Burch   Dec-25-06 05:15 PM   #62 
           - yeah, we could tell ....  talk hard   Dec-25-06 05:18 PM   #65 
           - I'm with ya here, KB.  ret5hd   Dec-25-06 05:24 PM   #67 
  - What a dumbass thing to say!  wyldwolf   Dec-25-06 08:33 PM   #74 
  - Who is Brian Schweitzer and why would I take his  roody   Dec-25-06 09:03 PM   #77 
  - He is married to one of he worst witches in politics  proud2Blib   Dec-25-06 11:00 PM   #80 
  - I have one question for Carville: Did he inform his wife of Kerry's Ohio vote strategies?  zulchzulu   Dec-26-06 08:21 AM   #85 
     - This is one of the main reasons  rox63   Dec-26-06 10:12 AM   #87 
        - IF you give information away to your enemy in time of war, you are...  zulchzulu   Dec-26-06 12:45 PM   #91 
        - Even if the more outrageous accusations, fall flat,  karynnj   Dec-27-06 07:51 AM   #95 

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