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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:58 AM
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12. Gore was clearly the biggest proponent for explaining global warming
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 09:59 AM by karynnj
but as Al Gore himself said at the 2004 convention, no Senator had a better record than John Kerry.

Kerry has been involved in clean air, clean water, and anti- pollution initiatives since the early 1980s. He also worked on legislation that dealt with coastal erosion. Many things he recommended , that were rejected by commercial interests were things that were described as part of what needed to be done after Katrina. After seeing Al Gore's movie in my community last fall, we were led in a discussion of what could be done by a person trained by people connected to Gore's movie. One of the main things she spoke of was "carbon trading". The idea was that if a plant produced more carbon than allowed they needed to either change their processes, which was often non-economic or "buy" carbon credits from a plant exceeding the standard. This made the cost of building a "too clean" plant lower, making it more economic.

Carbon trading was based on the mechanism used in the Clean Air act, passed under GHWB, to reduce the components of acid rain. The impetus for including this in the Clean Air act was that the NE governors had used this method successfully to deal with acid rain. John Kerry, as lt Governor, had read about the problem of acid rain and had found that the problem had developed earlier in Europe which was industrialized earlier. With Dukakasis' approval, Kerry met with German and French environmental officials (one of whom was Kerry's first cousin) and learned of this method that they were using. He then came back and sold the idea to the New England governors.

Kerry did not devise the methodology - European economists and environmentalists did. He was key in getting it used in the US. This was a very major accomplishment and is a small part of the key to dealing with global warming.

Kerry actually spoke in Boston - as one of many speakers - on the first Earth Day in 1970 - before he spoke against the war. He was brought up by a mother who was concerned by environmental issues. This has been an issue he has been involved with all his life. It also is what brought him Teresa - they met when she was at the Rio conference (a precursor of Kyoto) as a non-governmental delegate because of her own environmental work.

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  -Q: Other than Gore, which candidates are fighters against global warming? theHandpuppet  Dec-23-06 07:30 AM   #0 
  - Wesley Clark  Clark2008   Dec-23-06 07:33 AM   #1 
  - According to Al Gore  globalvillage   Dec-23-06 07:38 AM   #2 
  - Here's my favorite part of Gore's speech to the 2004 Democratic Convention that  NYCGirl   Dec-23-06 08:23 AM   #5 
  - Gotta love Al.  globalvillage   Dec-23-06 08:31 AM   #7 
  - Kerry was one of the sponsors for the AIT house parties last weekend  Mabus   Dec-23-06 03:45 PM   #25 
  - John Kerry is a big environmentalist, but I believe that Gore is the  MasonJar   Dec-23-06 07:56 AM   #3 
  - Gore was clearly the biggest proponent for explaining global warming  karynnj   Dec-23-06 09:58 AM   #12 
  - John Kerry was the first nominee to make and play ads  karynnj   Dec-23-06 10:14 AM   #15 
     - What about this ad from 2000? This certainly pre-dated Kerry's ad:  NYCGirl   Dec-23-06 02:45 PM   #23 
        - You are right - I had not seen that ad and had read otherwise  karynnj   Dec-23-06 05:40 PM   #26 
  - Ditto - John Kerry  Island Blue   Dec-23-06 08:07 AM   #4 
  - Gore and Kerry  globalvillage   Dec-23-06 08:29 AM   #6 
  - Bill Richardson has pushed New Mexico farther toward sustainability  DrRang   Dec-23-06 08:31 AM   #8 
  - The Clinton record on energy  karynnj   Dec-23-06 11:58 AM   #17 
  - Obama - he's very strong on this issue.  jefferson_dem   Dec-23-06 08:31 AM   #9 
  - What has he done besides talk about it?  theHandpuppet   Dec-23-06 09:51 AM   #11 
     - Pushed the issue and pressured others, including *, to act now.  jefferson_dem   Dec-23-06 10:09 AM   #14 
     - He was named an environmental champion by the League of Conservation Voters  Radical Activist   Dec-23-06 08:08 PM   #28 
  - I think any democratic party member(?)  pretzel4gore   Dec-23-06 08:48 AM   #10 
  - Who are the candidates?  RestoreGore   Dec-23-06 10:09 AM   #13 
  - Then let me rephrase that if you like  theHandpuppet   Dec-23-06 11:48 AM   #16 
  - Those behind a candidate will rationalize how their candidate is great on this issue, but  Infinite Hope   Dec-23-06 01:41 PM   #18 
  - Clark has very legitimate credentials on environmental issues  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-06 02:01 PM   #19 
  - See my post above about Wes Clark. Also this:  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-06 02:31 PM   #20 
  - Clark's answers to the League of Conservation Voters Questionaire from his 2004 race  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-06 02:38 PM   #21 
  - Part II Clark's answers to the League of Conservation Voters Questionaire from his 2004 race  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-23-06 02:39 PM   #22 
  - Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer  Mabus   Dec-23-06 03:42 PM   #24 
  - Kucinich.  LWolf   Dec-23-06 07:37 PM   #27 
  - Edwards, Kerry, Kucinich, Obama  Radical Activist   Dec-23-06 08:09 PM   #29 
  - Edwards had a somewhat lack luster record on the  karynnj   Dec-25-06 04:33 PM   #33 
  - Thanks for all of the replies  theHandpuppet   Dec-24-06 06:35 AM   #30 
  - Lieberman is, isn't he? And Boxer? nt  babylonsister   Dec-24-06 06:41 AM   #31 
  - Great question !  H2O Man   Dec-24-06 06:50 AM   # 
  - Dupe .... but I will take  H2O Man   Dec-24-06 06:50 AM   #32 
  - Senator Kerry was on of the original  ProSense   Dec-25-06 05:39 PM   #34 
     - Attending the first earth summit in Rio, was likely one of most important events in Kerry's life  karynnj   Dec-25-06 06:04 PM   #35 
 

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