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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:39 PM
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20. getting the policy right is what's important ...
there's not much virtue in a unity that prolongs the madness in Iraq ... it will serve neither the political aspirations of Democrats nor the best interests of this country nor the best interests of the Iraqi people if Democrats remain "unified" (or relatively unified) behind a "we can still fix this mess" program ...

even in getting the policy right, it is not necessary that all Democrats are onboard ... there should be no political punishment from the voters for a party open enough to welcome a spectrum of views ...

in the end, it's getting the policy right that's important ... truthfully, there hasn't been much of that ... Democrats seem so fearful about "imagined political consequences" that i don't believe most them feel free to step away from the pack and lead the country in a new direction ... we've seen one or two republicans "get out of line" recently; it would be nice to see a convert or two from our side ...

so, my answer to the question is fundamentally "no" ... unity is not necessary and the relatively unified position we're seeing today is not just bad politics (it appears too "defensive" and "reactive") but a poor policy call as well ...
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  -Do you think it is important that Democrats are united behind one Democratic Plan for Iraq? Clarkie1  Dec-15-06 08:12 PM   #0 
  - So far my answer to the question is winning big time...nt  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 08:16 PM   #1 
  - Just goes to show  BeFree   Dec-15-06 09:43 PM   #21 
  - Not! Getting behind one plan ( Patriotic Cooperation ) has made Impeachment  orpupilofnature57   Dec-15-06 08:18 PM   #2 
  - I think there are some general principles Dems can agree on.  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 08:20 PM   #4 
     - Oh positively ,but one plan isn't necessary to realize the same goal..  orpupilofnature57   Dec-15-06 08:24 PM   #7 
     - I don't know any Democrat that disagrees on that  karynnj   Dec-16-06 07:43 AM   #36 
  - Though apparently not popular, I think its somewhat important.  lvx35   Dec-15-06 08:19 PM   #3 
  - I agree. Disorganization is a liability come election time.  AZBlue   Dec-15-06 08:51 PM   #11 
  - d) impossible for democrats to unite behind one of anything. nt.  Warren Stupidity   Dec-15-06 08:23 PM   #5 
  - I disagree...  rucky   Dec-16-06 09:56 AM   #38 
  - Also not popular....  monktonman   Dec-15-06 08:24 PM   #6 
  - I am of the opinion Democrats should endorse the ISG recommendations.  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 08:31 PM   #8 
  - Bush is going to stick it to the Democrats on the ISG  IndianaGreen   Dec-15-06 09:23 PM   #14 
  - Because it's Getting behind something so important ,instead of Examining  orpupilofnature57   Dec-15-06 08:50 PM   #10 
  - I though the President was suppose to come up with the plan.  augie38   Dec-15-06 08:48 PM   #9 
  - He's Ted Knight's grandson in 'Caddy Shack'  orpupilofnature57   Dec-15-06 09:04 PM   #12 
  - The only plan that counts is the one that will bring all the troops home ASAP  IndianaGreen   Dec-15-06 09:18 PM   #13 
  - What does ASAP mean to you?  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 09:25 PM   #15 
     - As soon as it is logistically possible to do so... leaving all the equipment behind  IndianaGreen   Dec-15-06 09:33 PM   #18 
        - Well, that's not going to happen for at least two years.  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 09:50 PM   #25 
           - We will be evacuating the Green Zone by chopper before the end of 2007  IndianaGreen   Dec-15-06 10:41 PM   #29 
  - VERY important.  rucky   Dec-15-06 09:26 PM   #16 
  - I reject your premise. We ARE united behind one plan.  ClassWarrior   Dec-15-06 09:32 PM   #17 
  - What does that mean?  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 09:36 PM   #19 
     - Let me spell it out for you...  ClassWarrior   Dec-15-06 09:45 PM   #22 
        - O.K., then that would mean no permanent bases or other military presence. nt  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 09:49 PM   #24 
  - getting the policy right is what's important ...  welshTerrier2   Dec-15-06 09:39 PM   #20 
  - Unfortunately for the next two years it's the administration that needs to "get the policy right"  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 09:46 PM   #23 
     - well, yes ... and no ...  welshTerrier2   Dec-15-06 09:57 PM   #26 
     - But Democrats are not going to agree on a specific policy.  Clarkie1   Dec-15-06 11:06 PM   #32 
        - the ISG? no thanks ...  welshTerrier2   Dec-16-06 07:17 AM   #33 
     - But you know who will be blamed for future failures, dontcha?  rucky   Dec-16-06 09:51 AM   #37 
  - It depends on the plan...  zulchzulu   Dec-15-06 09:59 PM   #27 
  - I think once we have a nominee, it'd help for other Democrats in the public eye  Sparkly   Dec-15-06 10:04 PM   #28 
  - not important....  unkachuck   Dec-15-06 10:42 PM   #30 
  - No.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-15-06 11:04 PM   #31 
  - There is no one plan anyone can agree upon...  kentuck   Dec-16-06 07:28 AM   #34 
  - This is not possible  karynnj   Dec-16-06 07:41 AM   #35 

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