FrenchieCat
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Thu Dec-14-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 45. So it appears that Obama is for a timetable up front instead of |
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as a negotiating tool....but beyond that, appears to have the same goal and methods as Wes Clark
I wonder what he means when he says that redeployment plans may be "adjusted" based on events on the ground? Is he talking about the time table element of the redeployment plan (since the rest is pretty vague as to who goes where?)
Do you know and is there an example of what he means on that?
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| -Challenge to potential '08 candidate supporters: articulate your candidate's Iraq position. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 01:53 PM |
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I can limit it to three |
GrpCaptMandrake |
Dec-14-06 02:02 PM |
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Beat me to it |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-14-06 02:12 PM |
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This idea is good on paper, but the fact is it'll be used as a tool of |
Infinite Hope |
Dec-15-06 07:17 PM |
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No lack of clarity there.... |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:14 PM |
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What if we got out now, and the violence escalated instead of diminishing? |
Sparkly |
Dec-15-06 09:19 AM |
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what if we left and those evil mooslims started murdering innocent kittens? |
leftofthedial |
Dec-15-06 03:30 PM |
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The violence will escalate whether we get out or stay. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 06:12 PM |
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John Edwards. |
JohnLocke |
Dec-14-06 02:05 PM |
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Are you really unable to articulate Edwards' position on Iraq? |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:14 PM |
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Umm....it's in the op-ed. |
JohnLocke |
Dec-14-06 02:25 PM |
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I am asking if YOU are able to articulate your candidate's position. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:27 PM |
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You're being disingenuous here. |
JohnLocke |
Dec-14-06 02:38 PM |
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Calling me a liar won't miraculously transform your link and quote into an answer to the challenge. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:41 PM |
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I think he/she wants you to be able to cough it up in your own words |
LittleClarkie |
Dec-14-06 03:01 PM |
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Exactly. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 03:05 PM |
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For Clark: Read This Kos Diary |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 02:09 PM |
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Are you really unable to articulate Clark's position on Iraq? |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:13 PM |
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Unfair slam |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 02:17 PM |
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I'm sorry that you are offended by the fact that you have not risen to the challenge. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:22 PM |
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I'm not offended by not rising to your challange |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 03:11 PM |
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Please try to be more accurate. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 03:18 PM |
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You said: "Are you really unable to articulate Clark's position on Iraq?" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 03:58 PM |
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You Are A Cool One, Mr. Rinaldo |
The Magistrate |
Dec-15-06 09:05 PM |
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John Kerry |
beachmom |
Dec-14-06 02:36 PM |
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Kerry supported IWR as standard tool to force Saddam's cooperation. When weapons inspections |
blm |
Dec-14-06 02:38 PM |
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Here's my summary... |
rox63 |
Dec-14-06 02:40 PM |
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No lack of clarity there, either. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 02:43 PM |
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What are you driving at? Kerry's plan is very clear. |
beachmom |
Dec-14-06 03:22 PM |
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I believe that's what she said - there is NO LACK of clarity. |
blm |
Dec-14-06 03:24 PM |
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Oops. Sorry I misread that. n/t |
beachmom |
Dec-15-06 06:31 AM |
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Kerry |
ProSense |
Dec-14-06 02:42 PM |
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I don't do 100 word summaries on issues that scream "intelligent and comprehensive policy" |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 03:24 PM |
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good luck canvassing for your candidate if you can't state his position. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 03:27 PM |
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I don't like your snide and snotty comebacks here - especially when an appeal to your brain is made. |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 03:43 PM |
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Ok. Now everyone knows how you feel about me. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 03:53 PM |
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So don't play. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-15-06 08:43 AM |
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That's exactly what W is banking on: |
NV1962 |
Dec-16-06 07:09 PM |
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John Edwards |
Catchawave |
Dec-14-06 03:41 PM |
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Wes Clark's Iraq position and my thoughts on it...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-14-06 03:43 PM |
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Clark's bottom line; Attempt to prevent a wider war. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 03:45 PM |
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Hell....you done good! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-14-06 03:50 PM |
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Are you saying that Clark believes troops should stay in Iraq until after negotiations with Iran? |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 03:51 PM |
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If you read the longer article you wouldn't have trouble devining the nuances of 100 words or less |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 03:59 PM |
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First explain to me why you have no questions for "Get. Out. Now." |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 04:09 PM |
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Tisk tisk Tom - that's 186 words! |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 04:11 PM |
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Because that really is Kucinich's position and the poster stated it quite clearly. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 04:18 PM |
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Saying "negotiate troop withdrawals in the context of regional diplomacy" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 04:54 PM |
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A secret plan to end the war? Surely that's not what you are saying? |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 05:02 PM |
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Last try. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 05:29 PM |
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re: |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 06:01 PM |
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Re: Re: |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-14-06 08:09 PM |
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Clark's own words on Iraq: "Withdrawal? A bad idea." |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 01:50 PM |
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No spin is needed , but context is everything! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 03:37 PM |
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Which is exactly why people should read Clark's plan for indefinite occupation for themselves. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 03:46 PM |
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Again, you can call it what you'd like if it makes you feel smugger...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 03:53 PM |
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You're staking a possible failure of negotiation on Iran - a perilous assumption |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 05:34 PM |
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Who do you think you are? This response is wayyyyy too |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-14-06 05:57 PM |
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Well, I haven't actually addressed the position of Clark (or others) but... |
NV1962 |
Dec-14-06 06:24 PM |
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How'd you come up with that?!? |
Sparkly |
Dec-14-06 06:41 PM |
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"Get. Out. Now." is a pithy bumper stickerism but nowhere near a sound policy position. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-14-06 06:55 PM |
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If this is your educated conclusion, and it will help you |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-14-06 04:57 PM |
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So what exactly do you want? |
IA_Seth |
Dec-15-06 10:51 AM |
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lillibigone has determined that he only needed 4 words on Clark's position.... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 03:44 PM |
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Very nice Tom. |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 03:55 PM |
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Well done! |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-15-06 09:33 PM |
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Obama |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-14-06 04:10 PM |
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Good job. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 04:24 PM |
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So it appears that Obama is for a timetable up front instead of |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-14-06 05:02 PM |
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Obama now supports Kerry-Feingold, it seems. Welcome aboard Sen. Obama. |
blm |
Dec-15-06 08:49 AM |
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So you're a supporter of John Kerry eh? |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 06:19 PM |
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In ten words or less |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 06:54 PM |
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heheh....I doubt it...this poster is tough on everyone from what I've seen. |
blm |
Dec-15-06 08:48 AM |
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There must be some supporters of Gore or Clinton willing to weigh in |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 06:35 PM |
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So lillibigone |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 06:41 PM |
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Maybe I'm an idealist |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 06:57 PM |
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And maybe pigs rollerskate backwards on a cloudy day... |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 07:05 PM |
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I don't get it |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 07:08 PM |
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Shhhhhhhh |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 07:49 PM |
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Now you are even more right. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-14-06 07:54 PM |
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John Kerry and time-tables. |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 08:27 PM |
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Who's debated Kerry's plan? |
karynnj |
Dec-15-06 07:06 AM |
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No, I was unclear, |
seasonedblue |
Dec-15-06 03:01 PM |
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self-delete |
seasonedblue |
Dec-14-06 07:55 PM |
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Challenge to you: stop turning serious foreign policy into a sound bite |
Clark2008 |
Dec-15-06 09:33 AM |
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It's a tool for simplistic thinking and anti-intellectualism. |
Pithy Cherub |
Dec-15-06 11:51 AM |
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Yes......but you have to remember |
Catchawave |
Dec-15-06 04:07 PM |
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I still think that these proposals put out by Dems should be to provide Bush with |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 04:41 PM |
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Which plans are you assuming are political? |
karynnj |
Dec-16-06 09:47 PM |
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LOL! But smart marketing means |
Pithy Cherub |
Dec-15-06 04:43 PM |
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Gore |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 01:44 PM |
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Why should they bother? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 03:47 PM |
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Everyone (almost) wants us out |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-15-06 05:05 PM |
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Even Bush CLAIMS he wants us out. |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 05:45 PM |
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Just like Clark my ass! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-06 06:41 PM |
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Hey I tried to cooperate again |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-15-06 07:12 PM |
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No |
lillilbigone |
Dec-16-06 12:43 PM |
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Clinton |
lillilbigone |
Dec-15-06 01:45 PM |
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Hillary |
enough already |
Dec-15-06 03:03 PM |
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I haven't heard that she has articulated one ... |
rdarmand |
Dec-16-06 08:08 PM |
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Ok, although |
LWolf |
Dec-15-06 05:22 PM |
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Which is great....in Bizzarro World. |
Catchawave |
Dec-15-06 06:31 PM |
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Your response is not chopped liver. |
LWolf |
Dec-16-06 12:42 PM |
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