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Thu Dec-07-06 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #113 |
| 115. No, you're shouting, acting like a jerk, and in your own little world. NT |
| -Should the constitution be ammended to allow non-American born citizens to be president? |
Tiggeroshii |
Dec-06-06 02:02 PM |
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Oh, no... |
Mythsaje |
Dec-06-06 02:07 PM |
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Hell No |
eliphaslevi |
Dec-06-06 02:08 PM |
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What reason is that? |
Tiggeroshii |
Dec-06-06 02:10 PM |
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Foreign Interests |
eliphaslevi |
Dec-06-06 02:19 PM |
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Amen... |
Infinite Hope |
Dec-06-06 03:17 PM |
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tell that to a little girl who is told everyday by me that she can grow up to be and do anything |
Demi_Babe |
Dec-06-06 11:34 PM |
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Tell her she can become President of China |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 03:54 AM |
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Sorry, but i have little pity. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-07-06 01:14 PM |
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"There's no reason for a first generation immigrant to become president." |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 02:30 AM |
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We have more than 200 million people who qualify. We need to let |
SharonAnn |
Dec-08-06 10:08 PM |
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Yes, but we need to include a rider that says if you have won the Mr Universe title 7 or more times, |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 02:11 PM |
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Yes, the amendment should read that all naturalized citizens are |
lizzy |
Dec-06-06 10:42 PM |
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No, because they will run Arnold and the SAAV |
48percenter |
Dec-06-06 02:11 PM |
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And is it worse than Bush or Allen? |
Mass |
Dec-08-06 08:09 AM |
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We have 300 million people here |
krispos42 |
Dec-06-06 02:14 PM |
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So Madeline Albright can be our Secretary of State, but not the Chief Executive? |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 02:16 PM |
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Because the Constitution, the law of the land, says so. NT |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 02:17 PM |
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That's your argument? |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 02:19 PM |
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It's a good argument. I think the framers knew what they were doing. |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 02:42 PM |
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Hardly a good argument |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 02:56 PM |
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Indoctrinated into our society from birth. n/t |
ieoeja |
Dec-06-06 03:54 PM |
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Okay. So you are saying that in order to be president, |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 04:17 PM |
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Nope--I go for the "accident of birth" argument. And you might not like that, but |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 09:53 PM |
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Is it the geographic location that rocks your boat? So, if |
lizzy |
Dec-06-06 10:44 PM |
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Yes, IF his parents were working for the Federal government and filed |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 11:20 PM |
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good grief |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 02:44 AM |
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Ah, and you, of course, do? |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 03:45 AM |
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that's all absolutely fascinating |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 04:05 AM |
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It has to do with the ability of the parent to prove the child is entitled to citizenship |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 04:16 AM |
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oh good lord |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 04:41 AM |
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You need to read specifically what I wrote, and not project what you THINK I mean |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 05:09 AM |
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No, I need to throw up my hands and get back to work |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 05:50 AM |
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You are right about one thing |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 06:21 AM |
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Check it out |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 05:16 AM |
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Good point |
treestar |
Dec-06-06 11:29 PM |
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Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, US Constitution |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 05:08 AM |
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I will define it in three words: Ahnuld for President???? |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 09:42 PM |
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What a shame you are ending this conversation |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 09:52 PM |
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Here is a quality being born on US soil does NOT confer, as a rule |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 10:55 PM |
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you absolutely do not know what you're talking about |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 03:21 AM |
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Well, I've been civil, I have explained my viewpoint, and I've posted State Department regs |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 04:02 AM |
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once again: fascinating |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 04:29 AM |
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I don't think you do understand the formal, symbolic meaning of the Presidency. |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 06:09 AM |
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jeezus bleeding christ |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 07:00 AM |
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You need help, I think, |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 07:15 AM |
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keep it up, all of it |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 07:28 AM |
#112 |
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So you don't think citizens of DC should have voting rights? |
SaveElmer |
Dec-06-06 03:09 PM |
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Actually, I do, but without any changes to the Constitution at all |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 10:23 PM |
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I agree with that ...but... |
SaveElmer |
Dec-07-06 09:04 AM |
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Alexander Hamilton could not be President either. |
happyslug |
Dec-06-06 05:31 PM |
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Because being born here is no guarentee |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 06:37 PM |
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Because as Secretary of State she is still under authority, |
igil |
Dec-06-06 06:02 PM |
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Please let me see if I understand what you are saying |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 06:40 PM |
#52 |
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Maybe. |
igil |
Dec-08-06 01:02 PM |
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Because she is a Czech national |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 04:29 AM |
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like I wuz saying |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 04:58 AM |
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Sleepless night, eh, Iverglas? |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 05:47 AM |
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yeah, but did you read down to the bottom? |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 06:40 AM |
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Um, yeah, I saw your post later on down the list |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 07:03 AM |
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aargh |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 07:10 AM |
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That lady in the front is wearing the drapes? |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 07:21 AM |
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Drapes immortalized |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 06:01 PM |
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The overly-tan gentleman in the red V-neck and dark jacket? |
krispos42 |
Dec-08-06 03:30 AM |
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So a person can take our oath of citizenship, renounce their foreign citizenship, |
Book Lover |
Dec-07-06 09:41 AM |
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Happy to oblige |
krispos42 |
Dec-08-06 03:41 AM |
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I don't either |
alarimer |
Dec-08-06 08:34 AM |
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"Foreigners"? |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 02:33 AM |
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Yes, foreigners |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 03:48 AM |
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I'm with you. NT |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 04:05 AM |
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oh, do try again |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 04:46 AM |
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The things I do to make you happy... |
krispos42 |
Dec-07-06 06:11 AM |
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I hear that! |
wiley |
Dec-08-06 11:12 PM |
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Non-American born citizens get to be SECRETARY OF STATE |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 02:16 PM |
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I voted NO but... |
RedG1 |
Dec-06-06 03:04 PM |
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Yes it is an arcane requirement... |
SaveElmer |
Dec-06-06 03:08 PM |
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It may be arcane, but it does not harm and there certainly is no good reason to go through |
beaconess |
Dec-06-06 03:44 PM |
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It is unfair and unnecessary... |
SaveElmer |
Dec-06-06 03:50 PM |
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thanking our stars for little problems ... |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 03:58 AM |
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dang, put this in the wrong place -- should be general reply to opening post |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 05:00 AM |
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and just so's anyone interested knows |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 08:15 AM |
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No. |
terrya |
Dec-06-06 03:11 PM |
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however |
90-percent |
Dec-06-06 03:25 PM |
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This really isn't about Ahnuld . . . |
beaconess |
Dec-06-06 03:41 PM |
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Pardon me. Please read my and others' posts here supporting this idea. |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 03:51 PM |
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Olympics |
eliphaslevi |
Dec-06-06 04:22 PM |
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Reasonable statement |
Book Lover |
Dec-06-06 04:31 PM |
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No, they aren't. They can remain dual nationals, you see. Ahnuld is one, for example. |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 04:19 AM |
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have you read the oath taken -- and the post you replied to? |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 05:09 AM |
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And the Supreme Court has trumped that oath by their rulings over the years. |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 06:48 AM |
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you do love to change the subject |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 07:03 AM |
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You can swear that oath all day and all night, and still retain your dual citizenship |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 07:26 AM |
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okay: 'STREWTH |
iverglas |
Dec-07-06 07:35 AM |
#113 |
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No, you're shouting, acting like a jerk, and in your own little world. NT |
MADem |
Dec-07-06 07:43 AM |
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Wow, look at all those JOOOOOOOOS |
tritsofme |
Dec-06-06 04:21 PM |
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Dec-06-06 04:26 PM |
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Sorry, but you fell for a bunch of anti-Semitic bullshit! |
tritsofme |
Dec-06-06 04:35 PM |
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Dec-06-06 06:16 PM |
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Sorry, I just never thought I'd have to defend the ADL |
tritsofme |
Dec-07-06 02:04 AM |
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Dec-07-06 01:08 PM |
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Well, it ain't StandardS and Poors, which could be impacting your research |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 11:25 PM |
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No President Schwarzenegger is not a good enough reason... |
SaveElmer |
Dec-06-06 04:13 PM |
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But there seems to be a powerful concern at DU |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-06-06 05:46 PM |
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I agree 100%, the constitution is about more than any one person |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-06-06 06:04 PM |
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Yea, I agree. As much as I hate the idea of President Arnold, |
lizzy |
Dec-06-06 10:37 PM |
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hell no |
talk hard |
Dec-06-06 04:22 PM |
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Yes |
abburdlen |
Dec-06-06 04:25 PM |
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I voted yes... |
annarbor |
Dec-06-06 04:44 PM |
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No |
KKKarl is an idiot |
Dec-06-06 04:47 PM |
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What if you moved here when you were 5 years old not 25? |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-06-06 06:00 PM |
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We have Jennifer Granholm, who would make a good Veep |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-06-06 05:30 PM |
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Not if Schwartzenegger or however one spells it gets to run. |
MasonJar |
Dec-06-06 05:49 PM |
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Absolutely, I think it is discrimination that we don't |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-06-06 05:59 PM |
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This is probably not the best time for controversial Constitutional changes . |
MissMarple |
Dec-06-06 06:26 PM |
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Yep, you're quite wise....the laws of unintended consequences |
MADem |
Dec-06-06 11:32 PM |
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I am torn |
JNelson6563 |
Dec-06-06 06:32 PM |
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i had to vote yes. |
xchrom |
Dec-06-06 06:46 PM |
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I voted yes, but I would have it if someone has been a citizen for 20 years or so they can run |
SmellsLikeDeanSpirit |
Dec-06-06 10:27 PM |
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I think it should. |
lizzy |
Dec-06-06 10:36 PM |
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Why is this an issue? Is there foreign-born person out there we're dying to have as president |
beaconess |
Dec-06-06 10:42 PM |
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There is one who is probably dying to run on the republican side. |
lizzy |
Dec-06-06 10:45 PM |
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Yes, the 18th Century reason for concern |
treestar |
Dec-06-06 11:26 PM |
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No! No! No! No! Don't let Arnold get his steroid ass in the door |
Joe Bacon |
Dec-07-06 12:20 AM |
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Another mom of a Chinese-born daughter |
BlueGirlRedState |
Dec-07-06 06:04 AM |
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Not a chance. See my post below. (nt) |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-07-06 01:19 PM |
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Let me qualify that. |
trogdor |
Dec-07-06 07:36 AM |
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That would absolutely cripple our foreign policy. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-07-06 01:18 PM |
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It's hard to imagine that even a randomly selected person |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-08-06 11:05 PM |
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The last time this was brought up, it was by people |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-07-06 01:19 PM |
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Yes, with some caveats. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-07-06 03:46 PM |
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If the electorate want a three legged mongoose to be president, the Constitution shouldn't stop them |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Dec-07-06 04:46 PM |
#126 |
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Of course it should be ammended |
Comicstripper |
Dec-07-06 05:18 PM |
#127 |
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Amazing example of xenophobia on DU. |
Mass |
Dec-08-06 08:21 AM |
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Yes, people from other countries only want to be our friends |
slackmaster |
Dec-08-06 08:55 AM |
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Because Bush is our friend? |
Mass |
Dec-08-06 09:02 AM |
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I can assure you, people here in Britain don't look like that. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Dec-08-06 01:24 PM |
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It's a slippery slope, Donald |
slackmaster |
Dec-08-06 03:37 PM |
#138 |
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you caught my stuff about Canada here? |
iverglas |
Dec-08-06 04:25 PM |
#139 |
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Absolutely |
Bill McBlueState |
Dec-09-06 12:28 AM |
#143 |
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