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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:33 PM
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19. I agree, lumberjack.
The blue dogs and the progressive coalition can agree on those principes. The DLC, on the other hand...

There is no viable coalition within the Democratic party that can work on social issues, unfortunately. The DLC is all over the place on social issues (mostly conservative, though), and the blue dogs are conservative on social issues. The progressives are, of course, more liberal. all together, it is a pretty even split...but the Republicans win in the end because they can caucus with half of the Dems on social issues.

But economic populism is the key to a unified Democratic message. And it will justifiably marginalize and eventually replace the DLC. One party in this country should stand for economic justice, and it should be us (the Dems).
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  -so, how could we go about fostering center/left cooperation ulysses  Nov-26-06 10:16 AM   #0 
  - Make the Center come talk to the left.. don't bring them a cake.  bahrbearian   Nov-26-06 10:18 AM   #1 
  - I don't think they're coming  ulysses   Nov-26-06 10:19 AM   #2 
     - Then just talk to them on the porch, don't invite them in.  bahrbearian   Nov-26-06 10:29 AM   #3 
        - I'm not disagreeing with you on that  ulysses   Nov-26-06 10:31 AM   #4 
  - If people have an unpopular or not-widely-known position...  LoZoccolo   Nov-26-06 10:40 AM   #5 
  - that's helpful.  ulysses   Nov-26-06 10:54 AM   #7 
  - I would like to know what far left means.  CrispyQGirl   Nov-26-06 10:51 AM   #6 
  - that's an eye of the beholder thing, I think.  ulysses   Nov-26-06 10:56 AM   #8 
  - Stick to economic populism. We can all agree on that.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-26-06 10:58 AM   #9 
  - can we?  ulysses   Nov-26-06 11:00 AM   #10 
  - I agree, lumberjack.  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-26-06 02:33 PM   #19 
  - Maybe that's a little pessimistic.  nodular   Nov-26-06 06:57 PM   #45 
  - Did you see this thread?  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 03:22 PM   #27 
  - Probably the only real way to accomplish this task is one in  EST   Nov-26-06 11:18 AM   #11 
  - agreed on ending the corporate influence  ulysses   Nov-26-06 11:24 AM   #12 
     - Depends on how seriously the new ethics broom sweeps.  EST   Nov-26-06 11:53 AM   #14 
  - to clarify:  ulysses   Nov-26-06 11:42 AM   #13 
  - See above-dump the dlc.  EST   Nov-26-06 12:02 PM   #15 
  - how about dump "progressives?"  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 02:26 PM   #17 
     - That could work.  EST   Nov-27-06 03:36 AM   #48 
  - I'm leery of "compromise"  Morgana LaFey   Nov-26-06 04:07 PM   #32 
     - it's too bad that that has become the working definition  ulysses   Nov-26-06 04:26 PM   #37 
  - for starters... in respects to DU...  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 02:18 PM   #16 
  - #15 wasn't the first swipe.  ulysses   Nov-26-06 02:28 PM   #18 
  - sure it was  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 02:39 PM   #20 
     - ah well.  ulysses   Nov-26-06 02:44 PM   #21 
        - you're admired for doing so  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 03:00 PM   #22 
           - yeah, that and fifty cents  ulysses   Nov-26-06 03:13 PM   #25 
  - Typical. The answer is always to suppress dissent, with you guys.  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 03:11 PM   #24 
     - personal attacks and broad brush smears aren't "dissent." You want to dissent?  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 03:58 PM   #29 
        - So you can ignore them and try to change the issue? Been down that road with you before. n/t  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 04:17 PM   #35 
           - what issue have I changed?  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 05:21 PM   #39 
  - Not likely because "the center", as you call it, is not the center of anything  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 03:05 PM   #23 
  - Back the Bus up...  Roialus   Nov-26-06 03:27 PM   #28 
  - welcome to DU ...  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 04:00 PM   #30 
  - Why is it always the progressives or liberals that are expected to do  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 04:03 PM   #31 
     - certainly don't know how you gather that  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 04:07 PM   #33 
        - "Centrist" health care - force people to buy insurance they can ill afford  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 04:25 PM   #36 
           - prime example you just gave  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 04:49 PM   #38 
              - Your response is 100% off the mark  TorchesAndPitchforks   Nov-26-06 06:16 PM   #42 
                 - I think yours is  wyldwolf   Nov-26-06 06:26 PM   #43 
                    - More Americans than politicians support single-payer  TorchesAndPitchforks   Nov-26-06 06:47 PM   #44 
                    - "It is very difficult to make a person understand, when their salary depends  greyhound1966   Nov-26-06 07:58 PM   #46 
                    - Do you even know what a single payer system IS?  Solon   Nov-27-06 12:49 AM   #47 
  - THANK you. Much better said than my pitiful attempt upthread.  Morgana LaFey   Nov-26-06 04:08 PM   #34 
  - Listen to Aretha Franklin: R-E-S-P-E-C-T  Clark2008   Nov-26-06 03:13 PM   #26 
  - Nice idea.  LWolf   Nov-26-06 05:52 PM   #40 
     - it's my biennial compulsion to tilt at windmills.  ulysses   Nov-26-06 06:02 PM   #41 

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