| 108. Baloney - the research forum shows he DID hit - Maybe Gov. McGreavy's problem |
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Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 12:20 PM by blm
was getting a little too much airtime during the exact same time period that Kerry needed a media that REFUSED to pay attention.
Of course, no one would never expect that the media had any bias against Kerry, whatsoever, since no other Democrat but Kerry has that problem, eh?
Or is it that no other Democrat but Kerry wanted the FCC ruling overturned in June 2003?
And do you think the GOP would have IMPEACHED the great political fighter, Clinton, if the media hadn't pushed for it? The post 96 media is not the same animal as the 1992 media - the 1992 media was the last one to give any Democratic leader an even break.
I also don't expect any GOP corrupted media to give a real anti-corruption, open government Democrat a fair shake - however, I do see that the coverup Democrats will be given greater leeway for the next 16 months.
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| - Poll: Clinton leads '08 Democratic pack, Kerry slips (CNN) |
oberliner |
Nov-20-06 10:23 PM |
#0 |
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This poll will change, as much as I change my underwear |
William769 |
Nov-20-06 10:27 PM |
#1 |
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How often do you change....oh, never mind. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-20-06 11:10 PM |
#15 |
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So it won't change then? (nm) |
Ninja Jordan |
Nov-22-06 12:20 AM |
#32 |
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Thanks for the information, but right now, polls reflect nothing but |
wisteria |
Nov-20-06 10:28 PM |
#2 |
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"So the last will be first, and the first will be last" . . . |
Lena inRI |
Nov-20-06 11:03 PM |
#13 |
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She'll still never get elected. |
Dancing_Dave |
Nov-20-06 10:28 PM |
#3 |
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Too bad Boxer can't run |
jgraz |
Nov-23-06 07:59 AM |
#83 |
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That is who the media has picked at this point. |
usregimechange |
Nov-20-06 10:33 PM |
#4 |
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is this a poll of republicans? nt |
msongs |
Nov-20-06 10:33 PM |
#5 |
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Supossedly some democrats and Independants that "lean" democrat. |
wisteria |
Nov-20-06 10:42 PM |
#7 |
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Except Gore, they all supported the war |
Adenoid_Hynkel |
Nov-20-06 10:37 PM |
#6 |
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That comment only let's Bush off the hook n/t |
politicasista |
Nov-20-06 10:43 PM |
#9 |
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how-so? |
Adenoid_Hynkel |
Nov-20-06 10:51 PM |
#11 |
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By saying that they supported the war |
politicasista |
Nov-20-06 10:59 PM |
#12 |
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Clark never supported the war either before the invasion or after. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-20-06 11:12 PM |
#16 |
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Clark said he would've voted for the war |
BluegrassDem |
Nov-22-06 12:56 AM |
#33 |
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Not that same old bullshit again |
Jai4WKC08 |
Nov-22-06 03:47 PM |
#48 |
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here is an old washington post article that says he would |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-23-06 12:52 AM |
#79 |
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That's the WaPo version of the same interview |
Jai4WKC08 |
Nov-23-06 08:57 AM |
#84 |
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Right, Clark said he would have voted for the war |
ultraist |
Nov-24-06 11:43 PM |
#146 |
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For an extensive discussion of Clark's Iraq position |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-08-06 09:41 PM |
#151 |
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Obama was against the war from the start as well - nt |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-20-06 11:55 PM |
#20 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-21-06 10:46 PM |
#30 |
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Lota BS passing for gospel.. |
Tellurian |
Nov-23-06 07:47 AM |
#82 |
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Clark was never "for" the war - he testified against going in |
Clark2008 |
Nov-24-06 01:44 PM |
#117 |
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I will wait until the primary debates, then decide |
politicasista |
Nov-20-06 10:42 PM |
#8 |
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I wish these would wait until folks actually announce they're running |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-20-06 10:47 PM |
#10 |
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Glad to see they included the #6 dark horse. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-20-06 11:08 PM |
#14 |
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Yeah....the one that doesn't appear each and every sunday |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-20-06 11:32 PM |
#17 |
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Also means that 67% don't want Hillary! |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-20-06 11:39 PM |
#18 |
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and 93% don't want Kerry |
mtnsnake |
Nov-21-06 07:17 PM |
#26 |
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Ah, I wouldn't read to much into this. it is based on 580 respondents. |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:04 AM |
#72 |
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These polls are silly. And for what it's worth, I do not support Clinton as the |
wanpete |
Nov-20-06 11:42 PM |
#19 |
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Hillary will not get the nomination. |
Cascadian |
Nov-21-06 12:16 AM |
#21 |
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I just hope Kerry doesn't get involved .. |
Hieronymus |
Nov-21-06 03:46 AM |
#22 |
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Untrue. The DNC run by Clinton's people cost us in 2000, 2002, and 2004. |
blm |
Nov-21-06 06:15 AM |
#24 |
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Only Limbaugh could give you competition in the blame Clintons for everything |
mtnsnake |
Nov-21-06 07:21 PM |
#27 |
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Ludicrous, unproven "progressive" bullshit |
wyldwolf |
Nov-22-06 12:39 PM |
#39 |
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Clinton admits it in his book - read it. And when did Robert Parry become ludicrous? |
blm |
Nov-22-06 01:50 PM |
#40 |
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Clinton DID NOT admit "his people" cost us in 2000, 2002, and 2004. |
wyldwolf |
Nov-22-06 02:14 PM |
#41 |
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The targetted state strategy was from Clinton's people and DID cause the collapse |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:19 PM |
#43 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 02:43 PM |
#44 |
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So, go BACK to targetted state strategy and dump 50 state strategy because |
blm |
Nov-22-06 02:55 PM |
#45 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 03:21 PM |
#47 |
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According to you DNC did great, only Kerry failed in 2004. The left media really |
blm |
Nov-22-06 07:25 PM |
#50 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-22-06 07:36 PM |
#51 |
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Sen. Kerry, Ma'am, Failed In 2004 |
The Magistrate |
Nov-22-06 08:37 PM |
#54 |
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"he proved to be a vey poor campaigner, with no sense of timing." |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 08:48 PM |
#55 |
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He Did Not Hit When He Should Have, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-22-06 08:58 PM |
#56 |
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And who do you believe has the skills? n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 09:00 PM |
#57 |
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Hard To Say, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-22-06 09:06 PM |
#60 |
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Well, he has learned much from that campaign. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:28 AM |
#75 |
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Baloney - the research forum shows he DID hit - Maybe Gov. McGreavy's problem |
blm |
Nov-24-06 12:13 PM |
#108 |
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Phantom Blows, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:23 PM |
#112 |
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Not the point - Clinton WAS impeached - he shouldn't have been but could not |
blm |
Nov-24-06 01:27 PM |
#113 |
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Certainly It Is The Point, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:42 PM |
#116 |
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And the media would've reported that action, HOW? |
blm |
Nov-24-06 01:51 PM |
#120 |
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If He Had Burned An Effigy, Ma'am, It Certainly Would Have Been Covered |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:00 PM |
#122 |
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And please name all the fierce counterattacks Clinton did in his defense, that way |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:24 PM |
#125 |
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President Clinton Won His Fight, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:30 PM |
#126 |
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Clinton had a Dem party structure fighting for him - Kerry had a Clinton supporting Bush |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:35 PM |
#128 |
| -
So What We Come Down To, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:43 PM |
#130 |
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Fact - Clinton publically supported Bush's policy decisions throughout his 1st term |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:54 PM |
#132 |
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You Are Going To Have To Go Into More Detail, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:59 PM |
#133 |
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Because after reading Clinton's book I have many questions regarding his loyalty |
blm |
Nov-24-06 03:02 PM |
#134 |
| -
This Again, Ma'am? |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 04:27 PM |
#137 |
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I trust Parry's account. Of course I'd LOVE to hear how you or Clinton explain why |
blm |
Nov-24-06 05:53 PM |
#138 |
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Mr. Parry's Trustworthyness Is Not At Issue, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 07:40 PM |
#140 |
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Excuse me, by what authority do you come off predicting what will |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:26 AM |
#74 |
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Perhaps, Ma'am, You Watched A Different Election In '04 Than Me |
The Magistrate |
Nov-23-06 10:53 AM |
#87 |
| -
Everyone was predicting Kerry would win! In fact, they were sure of it! |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 11:02 AM |
#88 |
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He Campaigned Poorly, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Nov-23-06 11:11 AM |
#89 |
| -
Actually, it's Ma'am! That's fair, but |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 12:08 PM |
#90 |
| -
As You Point Out, Ma'am, Nuts And Bolts Were Good Enough |
The Magistrate |
Nov-23-06 01:20 PM |
#92 |
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Didn't say that. In fact, |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 01:30 PM |
#93 |
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This, Ma'am, More Makes My Point Than Yours |
The Magistrate |
Nov-23-06 01:44 PM |
#94 |
| -
It was handled by the campaign, and note |
ProSense |
Nov-23-06 01:55 PM |
#95 |
| -
Because DNC's Clinton-era targetted state strategy was a winner in 2000, 2002 and 2004? |
blm |
Nov-24-06 12:24 PM |
#109 |
| -
Endless Repetition, Ma'am, Is Insufficient To Carry The Day On Things Like This |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:11 PM |
#110 |
| -
And that is why Bush had to have controlled audiences, because he connected so well with most people |
blm |
Nov-24-06 01:19 PM |
#111 |
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Do You Imagine, Ma'am, The People In Front Of the Podium Are All the Audience? |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:33 PM |
#114 |
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I did not back off that - Since the party infrastructure went DOWNHILL after 2000 |
blm |
Nov-24-06 01:38 PM |
#115 |
| -
That Is A Shame, Ma'am: It Had Seemed Some Progress Was Being Made |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:44 PM |
#118 |
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I am not a coincidence theorist, Magistrate. McAuliffe made a CHOICE to ignore |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:00 PM |
#121 |
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Mr. McAullif, Ma'am, Made A Decision Different Than You Think The Right One |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:03 PM |
#123 |
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He did it CONTRARY to what he promised after the hearings on 2000 vote suppression |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:19 PM |
#124 |
| -
People Say Lots Of Things, Ma'am, Particularly In Politics |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:34 PM |
#127 |
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Terry didn't do HIS JOB - that he didn't do it in both 2002 AND 2004 election cycles, |
blm |
Nov-24-06 02:40 PM |
#129 |
| -
Innocent Of What, Ma'am? |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 02:46 PM |
#131 |
| -
he said he would make countering the RNC vote suppression tactics a priority and |
blm |
Nov-24-06 03:09 PM |
#135 |
| -
Not A Good Comparison, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 04:16 PM |
#136 |
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Nope, I never felt it was going to be easy. My experience told me |
wisteria |
Nov-24-06 11:09 PM |
#145 |
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Well, I do not agree. Perhaps, your view is one of recent elections. |
wisteria |
Nov-25-06 12:11 AM |
#147 |
| -
Your opinion or a fact? We'll see, that is the best thing to do. |
Mass |
Nov-23-06 06:55 PM |
#98 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 09:49 PM |
#65 |
| -
two things: You just admitted your claim of it being in the book was bullshit |
wyldwolf |
Nov-23-06 06:26 AM |
#81 |
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I said in his own book he says he wanted Bush to have a peaceful retirement. |
blm |
Nov-24-06 05:58 PM |
#139 |
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blm - the posts are here for everyone to see. HERE is what you said: |
wyldwolf |
Nov-24-06 09:56 PM |
#142 |
| -
Yup, the Clenis is responsible for everything |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-22-06 09:27 PM |
#64 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 09:50 PM |
#66 |
| -
Excuse me. He hasn't cost us anything. |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:13 AM |
#73 |
| -
Last term, Schmoe Lieberbush was leading the pack. |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-06 04:38 AM |
#23 |
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Kiss my ass, CNN. |
BlueIris |
Nov-21-06 06:16 AM |
#25 |
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I'm surprised that Kerry is at 7%. I never thought he'd do that well |
mtnsnake |
Nov-21-06 07:28 PM |
#28 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-21-06 10:22 PM |
#29 |
| -
What a surprise - |
karynnj |
Nov-22-06 08:45 AM |
#37 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 05:38 PM |
#49 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-22-06 08:31 PM |
#53 |
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Nothing new, he's been saying the same nonsense for over a year: |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 08:27 PM |
#52 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 09:01 PM |
#58 |
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I respect his right to express his opinion! |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 09:03 PM |
#59 |
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* |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 09:11 PM |
#62 |
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You are one of the most classy people on DU! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-22-06 09:14 PM |
#63 |
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Yes, AK is the most articulate, logical & classy poster on DU.. |
fuzzyball |
Dec-08-06 10:09 PM |
#153 |
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so it IS Clinton/Obama 08? |
savemefromdumbya |
Nov-21-06 10:50 PM |
#31 |
| -
Hillary Clinton will be the next president. |
robcon |
Nov-22-06 01:17 AM |
#34 |
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Lots of money - but how far will it go with the way she spends it? |
karynnj |
Nov-22-06 08:47 AM |
#38 |
| -
Hillary has $$$, poise, intellect, Billy2terms, Ivy school lawyer, |
fuzzyball |
Dec-08-06 10:12 PM |
#154 |
| -
CNN reminding us who they have chosen for us. |
leesa |
Nov-22-06 08:24 AM |
#35 |
| -
Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself (nt) |
Dinger |
Nov-22-06 08:27 AM |
#36 |
| -
I think this means almost nothing right now ... remember Dean? |
demdiva |
Nov-22-06 02:16 PM |
#42 |
| -
Yeah, I remeber Dean. Do you remember President Muskie? |
Jack Rabbit |
Nov-22-06 09:07 PM |
#61 |
| -
Just noticed your post.... |
zulchzulu |
Nov-23-06 10:03 AM |
#86 |
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If they watch TV, then this list is perfect sense |
Generator |
Nov-22-06 03:05 PM |
#46 |
| -
Hillary has played to Global Buss and Corp Media. Done a good job controling |
Sensitivity |
Nov-22-06 10:00 PM |
#67 |
| -
Actually, Clark's done A LOT - but the media ignores him |
Clark2008 |
Dec-08-06 10:16 PM |
#155 |
| -
PRO-PA-GAN-DA!!! |
maryallen |
Nov-22-06 10:04 PM |
#68 |
| -
33% is Hillary's high water mark! |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-22-06 10:27 PM |
#69 |
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and how do you know this? |
mtnsnake |
Nov-23-06 01:15 PM |
#91 |
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77 % of the people polled do not want Hillary, they want someone else |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-23-06 11:56 PM |
#100 |
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I don't think Hillary will win, but you might want to get a new calculator. |
MeanBone |
Nov-24-06 01:14 AM |
#101 |
| -
You're wrong to imply Hillary's record on women's issues is not up to par |
mtnsnake |
Nov-24-06 10:07 AM |
#105 |
| -
Special Comment (with six you get egg roll) |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-06 11:07 PM |
#70 |
| -
Hillary the Snow White Vs the 9 Dwarfs |
fuzzyball |
Nov-23-06 12:00 AM |
#71 |
| -
Screw CNN I suppose they must be disapointed Kerry's numbers |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:36 AM |
#76 |
| -
I want to see the other contenders numbers after CNN attacks them as they have attacked Kerry. |
wisteria |
Nov-23-06 12:38 AM |
#77 |
| -
Let's not forget the "manufactured" news CNN admitted using just last year. |
zann725 |
Nov-23-06 12:45 AM |
#78 |
| -
Sheeeeeeit, the GOP is voting for Clinton. |
BikeWriter |
Nov-23-06 04:41 AM |
#80 |
| -
The numbers look like Thanksgiving 2003 with Dean on top |
zulchzulu |
Nov-23-06 10:01 AM |
#85 |
| -
Why is corporate America pushing Hillary? eoq |
tsuki |
Nov-23-06 04:51 PM |
#96 |
| -
I think the Republicans are secretly behind Hillary. |
kayice |
Nov-24-06 07:41 AM |
#104 |
| -
Exactly! AND Obama too. One has to ask if Powers-that-Be promote these two, |
zann725 |
Nov-25-06 12:24 AM |
#148 |
| -
Whoever thinks these numbers mean anything is a fool. |
Mass |
Nov-23-06 06:52 PM |
#97 |
| -
Clinton, Kerry, Gore lose support to Obama. Edwards steady. |
MeanBone |
Nov-23-06 07:38 PM |
#99 |
| -
Edwards may team up with Feingold for Veep. Feingold said |
kayice |
Nov-24-06 07:32 AM |
#103 |
| -
That would be an excellent combination. |
MeanBone |
Nov-24-06 11:56 AM |
#106 |
| -
Feingold also said he hoped the nominee would be someone |
Clark2008 |
Dec-08-06 10:20 PM |
#157 |
| -
IMO, Edward's is the Leiberman of 08. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-24-06 10:55 PM |
#143 |
| -
This is why we should put some of these people in the cabinet... |
jpwhite |
Nov-24-06 05:49 AM |
#102 |
| -
33% is such a Freemason number |
lovuian |
Nov-24-06 12:07 PM |
#107 |
| -
Care To Elaborate, Sir? |
The Magistrate |
Nov-24-06 01:46 PM |
#119 |
| -
Hillary will only have to sweat Obama... |
Imagevision |
Nov-24-06 09:08 PM |
#141 |
| -
yawn, I will get worked up about polls like this in 08, now they mean nothing. |
wisteria |
Nov-24-06 10:57 PM |
#144 |
| -
why is Kerry even mentioned |
hamletsophelia |
Dec-01-06 09:09 PM |
#149 |
| -
This is only Temp. positioning for Kerry, he will be up again in the next poll. |
wisteria |
Dec-01-06 11:42 PM |
#150 |
| -
Hillary is the strongest candidate per money, media & big dog... |
fuzzyball |
Dec-08-06 09:57 PM |
#152 |
| -
Welp, since there's only 13 months until the first race...I give up... |
zulchzulu |
Dec-08-06 10:17 PM |
#156 |
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