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Tue Oct-31-06 02:59 AM
Response to Reply #29 |
| 54. Haven't you seen the cartoon... |
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That shows Hillary Clinton wearing a UN helmet standing on Lady Liberty's corpse? Does that "prove" that Democrats are waging an evil campaign to destroy America? Life must be interesting when you believe everything you see in political cartoons. Anyway, for me at least, shooting and swaggering masculinity are totally disconnected. Firing a gun accurately requires intense concentration; you have to control your breathing and body mechanics and focus your entire being on that tiny distant point where you want the bullet to go. Anger and other strong emotions will do nothing but throw you off.
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| -"I'm not voting for you... You are going to take my guns away..." |
WCGreen |
Oct-29-06 09:30 PM |
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How did Brown end up on the wrong side of the torture issue? |
wtmusic |
Oct-29-06 09:33 PM |
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I don't know.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-29-06 09:36 PM |
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He didn't |
OzarkDem |
Oct-29-06 10:47 PM |
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Someone told him it would pass anyway and get him elected to the Senate |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-29-06 11:02 PM |
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That logic works equally well to appease moderate Republicans |
wtmusic |
Oct-30-06 08:56 AM |
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If we win, we can do the same thing to Republicans |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-30-06 10:51 AM |
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Baldfaced political calculation, that's how |
eridani |
Oct-31-06 04:01 AM |
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The "take my guns away" drivel has more to do with right-wing radio |
JeffR |
Oct-29-06 09:35 PM |
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I never said it was a left wing agenda.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-29-06 09:39 PM |
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Simply meant that the party didn't have to move one way or another |
JeffR |
Oct-29-06 09:48 PM |
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They didn't want to accept them.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-29-06 09:51 PM |
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The Democratic Party just didn't take hate radio & RW grassroots |
JeffR |
Oct-29-06 10:03 PM |
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That unfortunate meme was a result of the "assault weapon" bait-and-switch... |
benEzra |
Oct-30-06 02:44 PM |
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I'm a life long democrat owning and possessing guns |
Erika |
Oct-29-06 09:36 PM |
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I live in Philadelphia |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-29-06 10:16 PM |
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That being said most of the gun owners I know would not vote |
Craftsman |
Oct-31-06 03:26 PM |
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Thank goodness! |
gorfle |
Nov-01-06 07:41 AM |
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I have nothing at all against people owning guns.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-29-06 10:20 PM |
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Unfortunately, for a lot of people in the '90s, Dianne Feinstein was the voice of the party |
benEzra |
Oct-30-06 02:57 PM |
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The problem now... |
Nabeshin |
Oct-31-06 04:16 AM |
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The fear is that the gun freedom lovers are under the impression they still have a right |
mrcheerful |
Oct-29-06 10:42 PM |
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It was really put forth by Lincoln back in 1861 when the |
WCGreen |
Oct-30-06 12:03 AM |
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No, the problem was that gun-404 politicians |
benEzra |
Oct-30-06 02:53 PM |
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There is no point really in gun control now.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-30-06 03:38 PM |
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Right, and people who defend the right to free speech or to have an abortion |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 07:10 PM |
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there are about ten guns for every person living right now in the |
WCGreen |
Oct-30-06 07:49 PM |
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That's entirely beside the point |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:18 PM |
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What the fuck are you talking about... |
WCGreen |
Oct-30-06 11:21 PM |
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Go back and read it again slowly if you don't comprehend. |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:24 PM |
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You obviously didn't get what I was talking about... |
WCGreen |
Oct-30-06 11:28 PM |
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You're right, I didn't get that |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:45 PM |
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You've overstated the number of firearms in the US by a factor of :>10. |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-31-06 10:26 AM |
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You better go back and look at what Nixon signed into law under the disguise of |
mrcheerful |
Oct-30-06 09:02 PM |
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Not one of my gun enthusiast friends wants to overthrow the Government. |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:22 PM |
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Here's what's amazing... |
gorfle |
Oct-31-06 02:48 PM |
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I read about that flood in 1994, too |
grasswire |
Oct-29-06 10:57 PM |
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Yes. |
benEzra |
Oct-30-06 02:47 PM |
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When the last gun-grabber leaves the party, |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-30-06 06:15 PM |
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And When The Last Gun Activist "Democrat"..... |
Paladin |
Oct-30-06 06:25 PM |
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I'm hardly a gun activist |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-30-06 06:42 PM |
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Been saying that.. |
sendero |
Oct-30-06 07:48 PM |
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Doesn't matter what you say. These people have very limited realities |
rhett o rick |
Oct-30-06 06:48 PM |
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My oh my |
DancingBear |
Oct-30-06 07:29 PM |
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Thank you for pointing it out. All we need to win, and to keep winning, |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-31-06 10:36 AM |
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Apparently I did a bad job of presenting my case. There are currently |
rhett o rick |
Oct-31-06 10:59 PM |
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Waaaaahhh! I can't get it up without my guns!! |
Lindacooks |
Oct-30-06 06:50 PM |
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I feel the same way about people who equate defending civil rights with impotence |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 07:00 PM |
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Oh grow up. |
Lindacooks |
Oct-30-06 07:06 PM |
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Why don't you wise up instead? nt |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 07:15 PM |
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I wonder if Jefferson thought people should own firearms? Here are |
AJ9000 |
Oct-30-06 07:23 PM |
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Sorry, those 'arguments' mean nothing against AK-47s and cop |
Lindacooks |
Oct-30-06 08:01 PM |
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And if you live in a rural area in the South where it takes |
AJ9000 |
Oct-30-06 08:56 PM |
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And just how often does that happen out in the sticks compared to what |
mrcheerful |
Oct-30-06 09:10 PM |
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You're really bolstering my point - you can't always depend on |
AJ9000 |
Oct-30-06 09:25 PM |
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Speaking of strawmen |
mitchleary |
Oct-30-06 09:09 PM |
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Armour piercing ammo. They are called cop killers because vests won't stop them. |
mrcheerful |
Oct-30-06 09:12 PM |
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Armor piercing eh? |
mitchleary |
Oct-30-06 09:28 PM |
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A typical bullet proof vest is defeated by most any jacketed spitzer type bullet fired from a rifle |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:38 PM |
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Armor piercing handgun ammo was banned 20 YEARS ago... |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 06:11 AM |
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I'm not debating this issue with anybody. |
Lindacooks |
Oct-31-06 11:00 AM |
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"I'm not debating alcohol prohibition with anybody" |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 01:10 PM |
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Ms Cooks, you're ignorant of firearms and your mind is closed. And |
AJ9000 |
Oct-31-06 01:25 PM |
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Until the party loses that anti gun attitude you will see rethugs |
Craftsman |
Oct-31-06 04:00 PM |
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Hmmmmmmmm |
mitchleary |
Oct-31-06 04:40 PM |
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double post |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:57 PM |
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++++++++ |
MGD |
Oct-30-06 11:58 PM |
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It's funny... |
Nabeshin |
Oct-31-06 04:06 AM |
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That all changed under republican leadership during the 20's and 30's |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 05:13 AM |
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WHICH ARE >>ALREADY RESTRICTED |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 06:03 AM |
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Haven't you seen the cartoon... |
Nabeshin |
Oct-31-06 02:59 AM |
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Geez, talk about ignorant... |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 06:01 AM |
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Really? Then why are convicts forbidden that right? It don't say a thing about |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 09:59 AM |
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So is voting a right, or a privilege that can be restricted at whim? |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 12:13 PM |
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Only if said convict wasn't convicted of a violent crime. Just because some states convinced voters |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 02:12 PM |
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I think we may be on the same page here, then? |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 02:38 PM |
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Careful Who You Call Ignorant |
Paladin |
Oct-31-06 05:34 PM |
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I was calling the personal attack ignorant, Paladin... |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 09:36 PM |
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Unpersuasive |
Paladin |
Nov-01-06 05:21 PM |
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Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing... |
benEzra |
Nov-02-06 07:16 AM |
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Cognitive Dissonance? Not Bloody Likely |
Paladin |
Nov-02-06 06:21 PM |
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Where is the militia? |
gorfle |
Oct-31-06 02:52 PM |
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A large standing Army was never supposed to exist in America |
MGD |
Oct-31-06 07:32 PM |
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The militia is still out there, MGD |
slackmaster |
Oct-31-06 11:14 PM |
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I'm aware of this. The organized portion, however, is simply another |
MGD |
Nov-01-06 12:52 AM |
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Exactly, MGD! |
gorfle |
Nov-01-06 07:39 AM |
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If "common knowledge" is valid, why bother educating people? |
slackmaster |
Oct-31-06 11:12 PM |
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Dear NRA member.... |
ddeclue |
Oct-30-06 09:19 PM |
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We will win this election because we are not them. |
greyhound1966 |
Oct-31-06 10:40 AM |
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Guns and jobs... |
gorfle |
Oct-31-06 01:40 PM |
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Excuse me but wtf are you talking about? Under Nixons law and order platform |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 01:58 PM |
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So you're invoking Nixon to justify Feinstein? |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 02:33 PM |
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Amen brother. This is a HIGH PRIORITY issue for many voters. Being |
AJ9000 |
Oct-31-06 04:27 PM |
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I just moved from Texas and heard the same things friend. |
MGD |
Oct-31-06 07:22 PM |
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The over throwing of the elected american government is illegal though, it has been since 1971 |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 05:32 PM |
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I'm sure it was illegal in 1776 as well... |
benEzra |
Oct-31-06 09:29 PM |
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I don't follow you... |
gorfle |
Oct-31-06 02:40 PM |
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Its illegal and if anyone tries they will be imprisoned faster then a camel jocky riding nude |
mrcheerful |
Oct-31-06 05:38 PM |
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There has never been any such right in any government including ours |
MGD |
Oct-31-06 07:19 PM |
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Ah, I see... |
gorfle |
Nov-01-06 07:33 AM |
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if you ever have to resort to using a gun |
Jim4Wes |
Nov-02-06 07:38 AM |
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You'll have two years with only a house majority. You'll pass no anti-gun legislation |
MGD |
Oct-31-06 07:13 PM |
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Thank you..... |
WCGreen |
Oct-31-06 10:16 PM |
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Here's your answer |
mrgorth |
Oct-31-06 11:16 PM |
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That is what I tried to talk about.... |
WCGreen |
Oct-31-06 11:36 PM |
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The difference between 1996 and 2006... |
benEzra |
Nov-01-06 01:23 PM |
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I really was just pointing out my personal experience.... |
WCGreen |
Nov-01-06 01:28 PM |
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When did Dems ever take away guns? The rethugs DID in |
caledesi |
Nov-01-06 02:16 PM |
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"Why would I want your weapons? Mine are much nicer!" |
Lisa |
Nov-02-06 05:42 PM |
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LOL! Good comeback! |
benEzra |
Nov-03-06 07:11 AM |
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