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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. A Court Order is now required
Dramatic Development:

U.S. Court of Appeals Rules IRS
Cannot Apply Force Against A Tax Payer
Without A Court Order

Tax Payers Free To Ignore An IRS Summons


Queensbury, NY On January 25, 2005, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held that taxpayers cannot be compelled by the IRS to turn over personal and private property to the IRS, absent a federal court order.

http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-01-2...

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  -Can Income Tax Actually Be Unconstitutional ? hpot  Oct-29-06 08:49 PM   #0 
  - Um...16th Amendment:  eyesroll   Oct-29-06 08:51 PM   #1 
  - Before you form any conclusions....  mcscajun   Oct-29-06 08:52 PM   #2 
  - You are absolutely right.  DiktatrW   Oct-29-06 08:58 PM   #5 
  - ain't that the truth  judaspriestess   Oct-29-06 09:32 PM   #16 
  - Are you stating it doesn't matter if its legal or not?  shance   Oct-29-06 09:48 PM   #19 
     - if you are asking me  judaspriestess   Oct-30-06 11:32 PM   #48 
  - a constitutional amendment allows income tax  flyingfysh   Oct-29-06 08:53 PM   #3 
  - You saw the video,  DiktatrW   Oct-29-06 08:55 PM   #4 
  - be careful with wikipedia.  michele77   Oct-29-06 08:58 PM   #6 
  - Quite so, but they're a good place to start.  mcscajun   Oct-29-06 09:26 PM   #12 
  - esp. since "they" are not likely to be experts in law, either.  Iris   Oct-31-06 06:59 AM   #51 
  - No, it's not Unconstitutional, due to the 16th Amendment  JHB   Oct-29-06 08:59 PM   #7 
  - Quote from New York Times  hpot   Oct-29-06 09:03 PM   #9 
     - Found More  hpot   Oct-29-06 09:14 PM   #11 
     - From the IRS site about the 1916 ruling  mcscajun   Oct-29-06 09:29 PM   #14 
  - The Urban Legend that will not die...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-29-06 09:02 PM   #8 
  - That is not correct.  DiktatrW   Oct-29-06 10:10 PM   #21 
     - They have lost and gone to jail...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-30-06 06:09 AM   #27 
        - Guess again.  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 04:19 PM   #30 
           - Don't need to...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-30-06 05:06 PM   #31 
              - If what you say is true  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 06:21 PM   #33 
                 - Tell you what...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-30-06 08:00 PM   #34 
                    - When the right comes to round up the left  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 08:11 PM   #35 
                    - Oh and by the way  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 08:37 PM   #36 
                    - Too much bother for your beautiful mind?  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 09:30 PM   #37 
                    - The prosecutors say.........  tkmorris   Oct-30-06 10:29 PM   #42 
                    - link?  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 10:46 PM   #45 
                    - Frankly, yes...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-30-06 11:10 PM   #47 
                       - Damn son,  DiktatrW   Oct-31-06 06:50 AM   #50 
                          - But you're going to pay your taxes this year, right?  Jeff In Milwaukee   Oct-31-06 06:57 PM   #52 
                    - You equate enforcement of a federal income tax with its constitutionality  Ninja Jordan   Oct-30-06 09:38 PM   #39 
                       - Newsflash: Courts determine constitutionality.  Zynx   Oct-30-06 10:41 PM   #44 
                          - Courts also derive their money from taxes...  DiktatrW   Oct-30-06 10:52 PM   #46 
  - forget that Bullsh-t  Lexingtonian   Oct-29-06 09:04 PM   #10 
  - The income tax is backed up by an amendment to the constitution  Warpy   Oct-29-06 09:26 PM   #13 
  - A Court Order is now required  hpot   Oct-29-06 09:31 PM   #15 
     - That website is run by a RW crank and tax scam artist.  mcscajun   Oct-29-06 09:46 PM   #18 
  - Ask Wesley Snipes-nt  sampsonblk   Oct-29-06 09:41 PM   #17 
  - lol  hpot   Oct-29-06 09:52 PM   #20 
  - I saw that movie, he leaves out several supreme court cases  Hippo_Tron   Oct-29-06 10:19 PM   #22 
  - A few things bothered me too  hpot   Oct-29-06 10:56 PM   #24 
  - i got a great idea!!!  ldf   Oct-29-06 10:48 PM   #23 
  - It is not about greed  hpot   Oct-29-06 11:37 PM   #25 
     - Let Me Pump A GOP Viewpoint ...  primative1   Oct-30-06 06:43 AM   #29 
     - Because the federal reserve has done a fairly good job of...  Hippo_Tron   Oct-30-06 09:35 PM   #38 
  - With so many abuses of our constitution going on, who can keep track?  quantessd   Oct-29-06 11:39 PM   #26 
  - Like it matters..  sendero   Oct-30-06 06:29 AM   #28 
  - oh please...read the 16th Amendment, and then shut up.  MrCoffee   Oct-30-06 05:14 PM   #32 
  - Nope...check the 16th amendment...  ddeclue   Oct-30-06 09:39 PM   #40 
  - If you don't pay your taxes, IRS will be backed by the full force of military  fuzzyball   Oct-30-06 10:07 PM   #41 
  - This is old as hell. It's also wrong. Test it, you go to jail.  Zynx   Oct-30-06 10:38 PM   #43 
  - Google "Irwin Schiff"  Joe Bacon   Oct-30-06 11:40 PM   #49 
  - the basis of the dispute is the definition of 'income' and 'wages'..  Rosco T.   Oct-31-06 07:23 PM   #53 
  - Locking  The Magistrate   Oct-31-06 07:42 PM   #54 
 

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