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Response to Reply #112
113. The problem is that he's running for a state office, and he'll be
representing (and needs votes from) lots of people who are much more conservative than you are. Some of them will be more likely to vote for them if they think he's going to be a centrist.
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  -Ford endorses Lieberman femmedem  Oct-18-06 03:38 PM   #0 
  - WTF! How can he justify this with Dems contributing to his candicacy?  williesgirl   Oct-18-06 03:42 PM   #1 
  - Ford is a consummate politician. He goes with a winner.  Buzz Clik   Oct-20-06 10:20 AM   #164 
     - I think DU is the purest embodiment of the Democratic Party  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 12:45 AM   #166 
     - In a way you are right  JNelson6563   Oct-21-06 06:18 AM   #177 
  - Ford sucks royally!  goforit   Oct-18-06 03:42 PM   #2 
  - Got a Link???  Imagevision   Oct-18-06 09:10 PM   #80 
     - link is bogus...  Imagevision   Oct-18-06 09:11 PM   #82 
     - Don't know why the link's not working, but try this:  femmedem   Oct-18-06 09:24 PM   #90 
  - Lets see, Democrats in TN are more conservative. . .  wndycty   Oct-18-06 03:44 PM   #3 
  - I agree. His state is far more conservative than CT, and his endorsement  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 04:16 PM   #16 
  - Make that the Senate.  amandabeech   Oct-20-06 12:17 AM   #152 
  - agreed.  Jim4Wes   Oct-18-06 04:19 PM   #18 
  - So what? All Ford has to do was to keep his mouth shut and say nothing!  IndianaGreen   Oct-18-06 05:28 PM   #30 
  - I see it differently, IndianaGreen.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 06:03 PM   #51 
     - Endorsing a pro-choice Jew is not the way to "rack up conservative  IndianaGreen   Oct-18-06 08:09 PM   #61 
        - Sure it is, if the person in question is Joe Lieberman, who has lots of  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 08:51 PM   #69 
        - Actually, it does. Almost all Republicans who say they're NOW  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:08 AM   #120 
           - Same here, I'm not thrilled with Ford.  Libby2   Oct-20-06 05:45 AM   #157 
  - True, but  Radical Activist   Oct-18-06 09:06 PM   #76 
  - It won't be enough. Why? Because Bush will veto anything he doesn't  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:14 PM   #84 
  - All this fiasco has taught me is that in all of the years that I voted for  tnlefty   Oct-18-06 09:22 PM   #89 
  - If it's a good strategic move for his TN race, I'm all for it.  Clarkie1   Oct-19-06 12:33 AM   #107 
  - So. Turns out Harold is a fool.  aquart   Oct-18-06 03:44 PM   #4 
  - No, it turns out that he's a centrist. Which is smart, given that he's  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 04:21 PM   #19 
     - I reluctantly agree -- but it turns my stomach  AtomicKitten   Oct-18-06 04:23 PM   #20 
     - But if dire circumstances had placed you in TN  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:26 PM   #27 
     - I'm lucky because I live in California & that hypothetical doesn't apply  AtomicKitten   Oct-18-06 05:38 PM   #36 
     - Some of us have to live in a red state - there are other factors  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:10 AM   #121 
        - And what of Connecticut?  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 01:16 AM   #172 
     - He's in Tenn.......and he reached out to endorse in Conn.?  aquart   Oct-18-06 04:32 PM   #24 
     - It helps define him as a centrist in TN -- where the other side  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:25 PM   #26 
        - And WOW, we sure wouldn't want to combat the lie that 'liberal' is bad!  Zhade   Oct-18-06 11:45 PM   #105 
           - no we wouldn't  darboy   Oct-20-06 08:55 AM   #162 
     - You seem to sell out your convictions just to get a few votes?  fuzzyball   Oct-18-06 05:38 PM   #37 
     - Ah, "the world's oldest profession"..  zidzi   Oct-18-06 05:43 PM   #44 
     - I think Democrats need to play to win. And to quit  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:47 PM   #46 
        - So, any dirty trick to win is OK? How about breaking into their office ala  fuzzyball   Oct-18-06 08:29 PM   #65 
        - It's not a dirty trick, it's a way to assert his independence.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:01 PM   #72 
           - Independence is supporting a traitor?  leesa   Oct-18-06 09:10 PM   #79 
              - No. But I don't accept your premise.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:18 PM   #86 
                 - Lieberman pissed in the face of the Democratic voters in CT  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 12:48 AM   #167 
        - Ford is the guy saying he doesn't want the Democratic nominee in CT  Telly Savalas   Oct-20-06 12:29 AM   #153 
     - Centrist!  howmad1   Oct-18-06 09:05 PM   #74 
     - No it is not SMART, it is just disgusting. It is without morality. It is  leesa   Oct-18-06 09:09 PM   #78 
     - "Every man for himself..."  sampsonblk   Oct-20-06 01:30 AM   #154 
  - Uh oh!  Janice325   Oct-18-06 03:44 PM   #5 
  - another democrat who is willing to sell out the party.  madrchsod   Oct-18-06 03:44 PM   #6 
  - Would you rather have a Republican win that election? That won't help  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 04:19 PM   #17 
     - why don't you ask Harry why he wants the Dem to lose in CT?  darboy   Oct-18-06 04:33 PM   #25 
        - Ford knows that what he says won't make a bit of difference in CT or the  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:30 PM   #32 
           - Stop making excuses for Ford who just endorsed a NON-DEMOCRAT  fuzzyball   Oct-18-06 05:42 PM   #43 
              - Big deal. No one in CT will care. If it helps Ford win TN, great.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:52 PM   #47 
              - I'm glad you don't live here. I don't WANT Bob Corker as my  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:42 AM   #123 
                 - but you're happy with Lieberman representing CT  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 01:20 AM   #173 
  - There'll be time to deal with such traitors later.  Vidar   Oct-18-06 03:47 PM   #7 
  - Traitor?  cali   Oct-18-06 05:34 PM   #33 
     - You're right, Cali.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:54 PM   #48 
     - Excuse me?  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 12:50 AM   #168 
  - Nothing new and frankly I don't give a shit  Hippo_Tron   Oct-18-06 03:48 PM   #8 
  - Yeah I alrady knew that  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-18-06 03:49 PM   #9 
  - DLC DINO...  Totally Committed   Oct-18-06 03:50 PM   #10 
  - The person will be a conservative, but if it's Ford he will be a Democrat  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 06:07 PM   #52 
     - As I said in another thread about this same point:  Totally Committed   Oct-19-06 10:51 AM   #117 
  - He has to get the conservative Dem vote  politicasista   Oct-18-06 03:52 PM   #11 
  - well THERE is an unexpected development.  hijinx87   Oct-18-06 03:53 PM   #12 
  - Someone probably asked him a question. Anyway, it establishes his  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 04:24 PM   #21 
     - It doesn't make him centrist.  Pithy Cherub   Oct-18-06 05:29 PM   #31 
        - Let's assume you're right (even though Lieberman has a 75% rating  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:40 PM   #41 
        - Ford is a traitor and will caucus with the Dems.  Pithy Cherub   Oct-18-06 06:21 PM   #54 
           - DUers will have to hold their noses, but plenty of more  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 08:57 PM   #70 
              - Ford voted for MAC so he is pro-torture too!  Pithy Cherub   Oct-19-06 10:48 AM   #116 
        - Um - didn't Obama CAMPAIGN for Lieberman?  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:45 AM   #124 
           - not since the primary  Pithy Cherub   Oct-19-06 12:16 PM   #131 
           - Well, that's still more than Harold Ford did.  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 01:13 PM   #137 
              - Nope that asshole just went on IMUS to say he supported  Pithy Cherub   Oct-19-06 02:24 PM   #138 
              - Actually, he said he hasn't given it much thought - he is running  Clark2008   Oct-20-06 06:05 AM   #158 
                 - Obviously he couldn't resist talking about it.  Pithy Cherub   Oct-21-06 04:26 AM   #176 
              - Why should he? Virtually no one has heard of him there, he's just another  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:34 PM   #144 
           - Obama hasn't supported him since he lost the primary.  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:35 PM   #146 
  - We're Ta;king TN Here... I Don't Like It But I Knew He Was DLC  ChiciB1   Oct-18-06 04:00 PM   #13 
  - Geeeee, wouldn't he just make a GREAT president.  bobbolink   Oct-18-06 04:00 PM   #14 
  - Well he just lost money here!  sfwriter   Oct-18-06 04:04 PM   #15 
  - I Know How You Feel... I Commented Above, But My Question Is  ChiciB1   Oct-18-06 04:28 PM   #22 
     - He's running a POLITICAL campaign....  sfwriter   Oct-18-06 07:51 PM   #58 
        - If you want to win political campaigns you have to run political campaigns  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:20 PM   #87 
           - Well I don't have to fund them...  sfwriter   Oct-19-06 12:22 AM   #106 
              - You're not the only one he would be representing. That's the problem.  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 02:43 AM   #110 
                 - I don't see a problem. eom  sfwriter   Oct-19-06 08:20 AM   #112 
                    - The problem is that he's running for a state office, and he'll be  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 09:30 AM   #113 
                       - If he's running for national office  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 12:54 AM   #169 
  - Instapundit has been pimping Ford of late. (nt)  rinsd   Oct-18-06 04:29 PM   #23 
  - Screw Ford then!  IndianaGreen   Oct-18-06 05:26 PM   #28 
  - Oh, gee yet another  cali   Oct-18-06 05:38 PM   #35 
  - What else would you call someone who supports the Lieberman insurrection?  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 12:55 AM   #170 
  - WWNLD?  usregimechange   Oct-18-06 08:18 PM   #62 
  - Are you joking? nt  Clarkie1   Oct-19-06 12:37 AM   #108 
     - No, I think they mean screw Ford literally. The ladies seem to like him.  Bucky   Oct-19-06 12:46 AM   #109 
  - Hello! He wants to get elected in TN . Smart move IMO  osaMABUSh   Oct-18-06 05:27 PM   #29 
  - By endorsing Judas Joe, Ford has also endorsed torture  IndianaGreen   Oct-18-06 05:45 PM   #45 
  - You are a enabler of war crimes  tritsofme   Oct-18-06 08:20 PM   #63 
     - The last thing our republic needed was another "good German"  IndianaGreen   Oct-18-06 08:50 PM   #68 
        - The best way to dis-enable the Bush dictatorship is to win majorities  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:03 PM   #73 
           - I am not disputing that, I am merely decrying the fact that Ford  IndianaGreen   Oct-19-06 09:38 PM   #150 
           - Lest we forget...  darboy   Oct-21-06 07:55 AM   #179 
  - Totally agree.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:56 PM   #49 
  - If we're going to win more elections, we have to take off our idealistic  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:35 PM   #34 
  - Right. The old foolish, "lets be Republicans to win against Republicans  leesa   Oct-18-06 09:12 PM   #83 
  - Ford is more progressive than his opponent Corker, but  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:25 PM   #91 
  - "lets be Republicans to win against Republicans" I have heard exactly  pampango   Oct-19-06 07:16 AM   #111 
  - pnwmom, the problem for Ford is voters like me.....  DeSwiss   Oct-19-06 11:19 AM   #122 
     - Do you WANT Bob Corker? Do you? Have you watched him  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:51 AM   #125 
        - Clark2008, I know, I know, I know.......  DeSwiss   Oct-19-06 12:27 PM   #132 
           - Thank you.  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 03:32 PM   #143 
  - I don't care how "conservative" the Dems  zidzi   Oct-18-06 05:39 PM   #38 
  - Does that mean you don't care if Corker wins?  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:58 PM   #50 
     - Oh please.  zidzi   Oct-18-06 06:07 PM   #53 
        - Don't "Oh please" me. I live in Tennessee and with your  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 11:54 AM   #126 
           - Okay Clark, you won me over. I'm done...  DeSwiss   Oct-19-06 02:39 PM   #139 
              - Thank you again.  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 03:35 PM   #145 
  - We need Ford to win. I don't Lieberman to win BUT I'd rather  ncteechur   Oct-18-06 05:40 PM   #39 
  - I agree. And I bet Lamont does, too.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 05:42 PM   #42 
  - We need Ford to win. I don't Lieberman to win BUT I'd rather  ncteechur   Oct-18-06 05:40 PM   #40 
  - "AP article not Found" Hmmmmm.....  Catchawave   Oct-18-06 06:30 PM   #55 
  - Try this:  femmedem   Oct-18-06 09:22 PM   #88 
     - Thanks, I didn't think about going back to the home page.  Catchawave   Oct-18-06 10:23 PM   #98 
  - "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"  DancingBear   Oct-18-06 07:42 PM   #56 
  - His individual votes on anything won't matter  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:05 PM   #75 
     - unfortunately you are right...until we get the majority back...  truebrit71   Oct-19-06 09:33 AM   #114 
        - Unfortunately, it's even worse.  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:27 PM   #140 
  - as the more common voice on here seems to suggest  themartyred   Oct-18-06 07:50 PM   #57 
  - See? There are reasons for the anti-DLC rhetoric.... nt  BullGooseLoony   Oct-18-06 07:53 PM   #59 
  - If you are in TN though, vote for a Dem majority. We need this race  usregimechange   Oct-18-06 07:57 PM   #60 
  - Ford's Lieberman endorsement is fu*king mind-boggling!!!!!  Imagevision   Oct-18-06 08:21 PM   #64 
  - Mind-boggling, but nothing but a shrewd and savvy move....  larissa   Oct-18-06 08:36 PM   #66 
     - Right. If Ted Kennedy and Patrick Leahy become committee chairmen  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:08 PM   #77 
        - Yup! BTW... great responses from you pnwmom!!  larissa   Oct-18-06 09:15 PM   #85 
           - You, too, Larissa.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:28 PM   #93 
              - You must be kidding  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 01:00 AM   #171 
  - I saw the subject line and thought Gerald and who gives a shit. nt  rzemanfl   Oct-18-06 08:40 PM   #67 
  - hhahahah me to  talk hard   Oct-21-06 08:51 AM   #182 
  - Those who think Ford was wrong, you should NEVER run campaigns !!!!!  larissa   Oct-18-06 09:00 PM   #71 
  - There often does seem to be a lack of common sense.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 09:10 PM   #81 
  - Then may I suggest that you hop your happy ass down here and fix it  tnlefty   Oct-18-06 09:45 PM   #96 
     - Tennessee could have the first Democratic Senator in how many years?  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 10:49 PM   #104 
     - I'm in Tennessee - and I hope you're voting for Ford.  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 12:07 PM   #127 
  - I NEED A LINK TO THIS ARTICLE....IT DOES NOT SHOW UP  FrenchieCat   Oct-18-06 09:26 PM   #92 
  - Frenchie =^..^=  larissa   Oct-18-06 09:41 PM   #95 
     - thanks for the link  AtomicKitten   Oct-18-06 10:28 PM   #100 
        - Yeah - lukewarm, at best  Clark2008   Oct-19-06 12:09 PM   #128 
  - LOL! I thought the subject line meant Ford cars.  bigwillq   Oct-18-06 09:29 PM   #94 
  - there are 2 things wrong with this:  darboy   Oct-18-06 10:04 PM   #97 
  - Ford's message wasn't to Connecticutt.  pnwmom   Oct-18-06 10:46 PM   #103 
  - So what?  thatsrightimirish   Oct-18-06 10:24 PM   #99 
  - So does Mel Sembler, defender for one SCOOTER LIBBY.  Zhade   Oct-18-06 10:28 PM   #101 
  - This pathetic thread is GETTING OUT OF HAND...  larissa   Oct-18-06 10:33 PM   #102 
  - I'm assuming Ford thinks Loserman will lose...  zulchzulu   Oct-19-06 10:44 AM   #115 
  - "In case nobody has noticed, as the Repukes are imploding, the  greyhound1966   Oct-19-06 10:53 AM   #118 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-19-06 11:03 AM   #119 
  - Really??????????????  paulk   Oct-19-06 12:34 PM   #134 
  - The one thing that drives me crazy about this party  BrentTaylor   Oct-19-06 12:10 PM   #129 
  - The one thing that drives me crazy about DU  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:30 PM   #141 
     - know what drives ME crazy?  darboy   Oct-20-06 08:52 AM   #161 
  - He also got pissy when Pelosi was made speaker, no surprise  ShortnFiery   Oct-19-06 12:10 PM   #130 
  - Does he own a time machine?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-19-06 01:03 PM   #135 
  - Cute, I meant to type Minority Leader - Yes I stand corrected.  ShortnFiery   Oct-19-06 01:05 PM   #136 
  - It certainly is. And it's also part of why he's winning.  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:31 PM   #142 
     - If he's running in Tennessee...  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 01:27 AM   #175 
  - Why? Is Leiberman popular in Tennessee?  katinmn   Oct-19-06 12:30 PM   #133 
  - The point that Ford was making, in his little radio interview,  pnwmom   Oct-19-06 03:38 PM   #147 
     - "Lieberman has been an independent voice"?  FredScuttle   Oct-19-06 09:15 PM   #149 
        - In Tennessee, the fence-sitters think Leiberman is independent.  Clark2008   Oct-20-06 06:12 AM   #159 
           - So we should applaud the propaganda?  FredScuttle   Oct-20-06 09:55 AM   #163 
  - He announces he's supporting Lieberman and now he's 7 points behind  bigdarryl   Oct-19-06 06:01 PM   #148 
  - The question is  pnwmom   Oct-20-06 12:08 AM   #151 
  - No - he's a head in most polls. Only in that Zogby interactive  Clark2008   Oct-20-06 06:14 AM   #160 
  - It is to be expected. Ford is DLC through and through. He sides with the  w4rma   Oct-20-06 01:44 AM   #155 
  - Is anyone actually surprised about this?  fujiyama   Oct-20-06 02:30 AM   #156 
  - It's all about control of the Senate  rigel434   Oct-20-06 10:37 AM   #165 
  - Let me get this straight  FredScuttle   Oct-21-06 01:26 AM   #174 
     - he's a southern conservative  darboy   Oct-21-06 07:58 AM   #180 
        - No excuse. He could safely endorse Lamont.  mmonk   Oct-21-06 08:12 AM   #181 
           - I agree with you  darboy   Oct-21-06 09:23 AM   #183 
  - Unfortunately  mmonk   Oct-21-06 07:49 AM   #178 
  - Oh my my, oh hell yes ...  Pepperbelly   Oct-21-06 09:35 AM   #184 
  - Really disappointed. N/T  DemDogs   Oct-21-06 03:03 PM   #185 
  - DISGUSTING...  TankLV   Oct-21-06 04:13 PM   #186 
 

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