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36. He was talking about the architect of IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning
which all led to the funding and rise of global terrorism - and Clinton knows it, because he covered most of it up. He never even mentions BCCI one time in his book. And he completely downplayed the CIA drugrunning operations discovered in his term.

Yeah I like Bill. For what he could have been. But I loathe what he has done in an effort to "move on" and get along with people who should be strung up as traitors to this country.
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  -American Prospect's Charles Pierce nails the Dem party powerstruggle whometense  Oct-13-06 11:39 AM   #0 
  - Exactly. It's been pretty obvious about the Senate - confirmation hearings  blm   Oct-13-06 11:45 AM   #1 
  - Yes, he really nails it.  Mass   Oct-13-06 11:49 AM   #2 
  - Clintonism: Cult of the Personality  FredStembottom   Oct-13-06 11:55 AM   #3 
  - The Dem party infrastructure was left to collapse in 1997 and DNC's  blm   Oct-13-06 12:07 PM   #6 
  - What you said!  FredStembottom   Oct-13-06 12:13 PM   #7 
  - Not the DNC per se  hootinholler   Oct-13-06 12:45 PM   #8 
  - Clinton gained presidency because LEFTY Dems kept pounding Bush1 NONSTOP  blm   Oct-13-06 12:50 PM   #10 
     - Ok, I'll buy into that.  hootinholler   Oct-13-06 12:54 PM   #11 
     - Definitely before the press lost its veneer of neutrality. After 96 there  blm   Oct-13-06 12:58 PM   #12 
        - They also went after Dean....and are still going after him...the DLC'ers.  KoKo01   Oct-13-06 01:12 PM   #13 
           - in that post, I was referring to media, but, yes, they do target Dean.  blm   Oct-13-06 01:37 PM   #14 
     - he also had good political aides, IMO  ginnyinWI   Oct-13-06 02:36 PM   #19 
        - Still wouldn't have happened if Bush1 wasn't getting pummeled for 4yrs  blm   Oct-13-06 03:07 PM   #22 
  - A-freaking-MEN!!!  whometense   Oct-13-06 01:48 PM   #16 
  - Perhaps to someone who doesn't understand policy  OzarkDem   Oct-13-06 10:37 PM   #54 
     - I understand NAFTA and GATT.....  FredStembottom   Oct-14-06 01:40 AM   #59 
        - And add Wefare "Reform"  kenzee13   Oct-14-06 05:44 PM   #67 
  - The democratic party will only find itself after they throw the Clinton's  Poppyseedman   Oct-13-06 12:01 PM   #4 
  - Thanks, PSman!  FredStembottom   Oct-13-06 12:07 PM   #5 
  - Clinton is still valuable to us. His Chris Wallace take down did  alfredo   Oct-13-06 03:10 PM   #23 
     - And what was his follow-up?  greyhound1966   Oct-13-06 03:34 PM   #25 
     - Before the love Bush, don't forget Carville and Begala screeching that  blm   Oct-13-06 03:50 PM   #28 
     - He had several good reasons for not being before the public.  alfredo   Oct-13-06 05:04 PM   #33 
        - That's what I wanted to believe, then I read his book.  blm   Oct-13-06 05:16 PM   #35 
           - I haven't read his book, so I can't comment.  alfredo   Oct-13-06 05:39 PM   #39 
              - Not ONE mention of BCCI - not one.  blm   Oct-13-06 05:45 PM   #42 
                 - What was Clinton's book about? Was it about his life or  alfredo   Oct-13-06 08:52 PM   #49 
                    - Both - his life, his political life before and during his presidency.  blm   Oct-13-06 09:30 PM   #52 
                       - I might have to read it someday, but It will wait until I knock  alfredo   Oct-13-06 11:16 PM   #57 
     - He was talking about his relationship with Poppy Bush, not the  alfredo   Oct-13-06 04:58 PM   #32 
        - He was talking about the architect of IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning  blm   Oct-13-06 05:22 PM   #36 
           - That's politics. But there is another message. Bill is  alfredo   Oct-13-06 05:36 PM   #37 
           - And sometimes you do the right thing, open the books, let chips fall  blm   Oct-13-06 05:43 PM   #41 
              - At that time I had a huge backlog of books. Other books  alfredo   Oct-13-06 06:20 PM   #45 
           - Remember that nice little air field in  femrap   Oct-13-06 08:36 PM   #47 
     - But the attacks about 9-11 started immediately and 8 books popped up  blm   Oct-13-06 03:47 PM   #27 
     - That is the job of the DNC leadership. They should have been  alfredo   Oct-13-06 05:08 PM   #34 
        - McAuliffe would have been all over it if Clinton directed him to do so.  blm   Oct-13-06 05:37 PM   #38 
           - Clinton was not his boss.  alfredo   Oct-13-06 05:41 PM   #40 
              - They were and are very close. Clinton didn't shy away from all politics,  blm   Oct-13-06 05:53 PM   #43 
                 - thanks for the good words. I haven't read Clinton's book  alfredo   Oct-13-06 06:12 PM   #44 
                    - Those other Dems were being BURDENED with the meme BECAUSE of Clinton  blm   Oct-13-06 06:32 PM   #46 
                    - My feeling is what is happening now has nothing to do  alfredo   Oct-13-06 08:58 PM   #50 
                       - Yes - that is what party infrastructure does do in every state, county...  blm   Oct-14-06 09:55 AM   #62 
                          - The 15 state strategy, and abandoning grassroots organizing.  alfredo   Oct-14-06 02:05 PM   #64 
                             - As per the strategy set in the mid90s. After the 2000 election hearings  blm   Oct-14-06 03:53 PM   #66 
                                - I think we were in disarray, disillusioned, and outspent.  alfredo   Oct-14-06 06:57 PM   #68 
                    - I get the feeling that a small group of extremely wealthy  femrap   Oct-13-06 08:39 PM   #48 
                       - Bill is too powerful to be ordered around.  alfredo   Oct-13-06 09:01 PM   #51 
                          - Sure, he's powerful, but he was coopted the moment he chose to close the  blm   Oct-13-06 09:33 PM   #53 
                             - It isn't him, but congress that does the investigating. Sure he  alfredo   Oct-13-06 11:22 PM   #58 
                                - For some reason, George Mitchell turned down further funding. I doubt  blm   Oct-14-06 08:44 AM   #60 
                                   - When Clinton wrote his book he talked about what  alfredo   Oct-14-06 09:08 AM   #61 
     - Of course he is, very valuable  OzarkDem   Oct-13-06 10:40 PM   #55 
  - Funny... when I say this:  Totally Committed   Oct-13-06 12:50 PM   #9 
  - Me, too.  madfloridian   Oct-13-06 02:03 PM   #18 
  - I agree...  Totally Committed   Oct-13-06 02:58 PM   #21 
  - I've been saying it too  OzarkDem   Oct-13-06 10:47 PM   #56 
  - hmm, It's all Clinton's fault?  ItNerd4life   Oct-13-06 01:45 PM   #15 
  - I'm not sure I'd put it that way:  whometense   Oct-13-06 02:00 PM   #17 
  - That shouldn't excuse the tactic of actually undermining the left. If  blm   Oct-13-06 02:53 PM   #20 
     - See the Democratic Revolution of 1968, repeated in 1972.  greyhound1966   Oct-13-06 03:39 PM   #26 
        - I guess there's a reason  whometense   Oct-13-06 04:23 PM   #29 
           - At least we will win this cycle, so we can look forward to a kinder,  greyhound1966   Oct-13-06 04:27 PM   #30 
           - I sure hope we will -  whometense   Oct-13-06 04:39 PM   #31 
           - And notice:  WildEyedLiberal   Oct-14-06 03:26 PM   #65 
  - Excellent post! n/t  ProSense   Oct-13-06 03:26 PM   #24 
  - How about the "non-partisan"  ProSense   Oct-14-06 11:18 AM   #63 

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