Eric J in MN
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Sun Sep-24-06 04:56 PM
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| 7. Any Democratic nominee will face media distortions... |
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...unless we nominate Joe Lieberman for president in 2008.
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| -Is the latest Clinton incident a reminder that Hillary should not run |
bigdarryl |
Sep-24-06 04:39 PM |
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Exactly the opposite in my book... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 04:47 PM |
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They weren't successful at all. They lost the Democratic Congress for the |
w4rma |
Sep-24-06 04:52 PM |
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Baloney... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 04:55 PM |
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The issues I noted are the results of the descriptions you noted. |
w4rma |
Sep-24-06 05:52 PM |
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A HUGE stretch... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 08:24 PM |
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Democrats did *not* lose in 1994 because of intangible perceptions. |
w4rma |
Sep-25-06 12:35 AM |
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Sep-25-06 02:03 AM |
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I rest my case. Thank you for your help in proving it. (nt) |
w4rma |
Sep-25-06 11:16 AM |
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May it rest in peace... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-25-06 11:47 AM |
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Thanks, whoever you are...hmm |
Tellurian |
Sep-26-06 12:20 PM |
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The gun issue was HUGE in many swing states in 1994... |
benEzra |
Sep-25-06 09:11 AM |
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Yep and even Hilary's much touted health |
truedelphi |
Sep-25-06 12:38 PM |
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That is true. (nt) |
w4rma |
Sep-25-06 08:43 PM |
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We lost because of health care |
enough already |
Sep-25-06 09:20 AM |
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Sep-26-06 12:22 PM |
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That doesn't make sense |
nini |
Sep-24-06 04:59 PM |
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The folks who had stayed with the Democrats for those two issues |
w4rma |
Sep-24-06 05:54 PM |
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Ok, I didn't read your OP correctly |
nini |
Sep-24-06 09:49 PM |
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Not being nit-picky here, but, um, well.... calling them idiots |
Clark2008 |
Sep-24-06 06:04 PM |
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well, I'll give you that :-) |
nini |
Sep-24-06 09:45 PM |
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I disagree also... |
Imagevision |
Sep-24-06 11:26 PM |
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The Democratic congress of 1992-1994 was sickening....they gave NO loyalty |
Rowdyboy |
Sep-24-06 06:05 PM |
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An Excellent Point, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Sep-25-06 12:06 AM |
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The same corrupt ones who sided with the Republicans on "free" trade |
w4rma |
Sep-25-06 08:52 PM |
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Great point, What I'd like to know is why our "leadership" seems to be |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-25-06 06:10 PM |
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one word. Bullshit. |
wyldwolf |
Sep-24-06 08:41 PM |
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Amen! |
truedelphi |
Sep-25-06 12:35 PM |
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We need to leave RW talking points out of this discussion |
politicasista |
Sep-24-06 06:01 PM |
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That Kerry responded poorly to the Swift Boat attacks... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 08:18 PM |
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No, if you are not willing to look at the facts |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 08:57 PM |
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When has there EVER been a level playing field with the media... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 09:10 PM |
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I have watched elections at least since 1964 |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 09:49 PM |
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Clinton had a favorable media? |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 10:01 PM |
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You only cite one example while running for President |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 10:37 PM |
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Well I'm sorry... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 10:49 PM |
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I remember the same things |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 11:13 PM |
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Kerry's own campaign manager disagrees with you on response to SBVT |
bling bling |
Sep-25-06 12:36 AM |
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Bill Clinton is responsible for the state of the media today in some ways, |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 07:56 PM |
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CLINTON underestimated the power of the FIVE YEARS OF post9-11 attacks |
blm |
Sep-25-06 12:12 PM |
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Kerry's response times were fine, the media just didn't work with him |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 07:46 PM |
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Senator Kerry fought back in 04, with no help from the Clinton's |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 07:37 PM |
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Kerry did fight back, 2004 was not 1992 |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 07:43 PM |
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I'm sorry...as much as I admire Kerry... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 08:20 PM |
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You obviously did not get what I said |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 08:49 PM |
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In the political climate that now exists.... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-24-06 09:03 PM |
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HAHAHAH - These charges are FIVE YEARS OLD - Clinton waited till now |
blm |
Sep-25-06 12:18 PM |
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You know what's really fascinating? |
ProSense |
Sep-24-06 08:57 PM |
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Well he did defend Lieberman and campaigned for him |
IChing |
Sep-24-06 10:57 PM |
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So Clinton has been weak and ineffectual for FIVE YEARS and is only NOW |
blm |
Sep-25-06 12:15 PM |
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The only "winners" were the Clintons |
enough already |
Sep-25-06 09:16 AM |
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Unfortunate, but very true. n/t |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 07:58 PM |
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I agree with you n/t |
Claire Beth |
Sep-25-06 09:21 AM |
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Gee whiz, what a revelation! |
greyhound1966 |
Sep-25-06 01:13 PM |
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I support Hillary Clinton...a loyal, and progressive Democrat... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-25-06 04:28 PM |
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And a reminder that we all don't agree |
Pigwidgeon |
Sep-24-06 04:48 PM |
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I completely disagree with you |
durrrty libby |
Sep-24-06 04:53 PM |
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Hillary is a favorite because of what Bill just did to Fox |
nini |
Sep-24-06 04:53 PM |
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Only because they get the microphone the others don't |
karynnj |
Sep-24-06 07:48 PM |
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There's obviously some tension in the Kerry camp that Hillary |
wiley |
Sep-24-06 11:46 PM |
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 11:58 AM |
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Are you seriously implying that karynnj is not a real Democrat? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-25-06 12:31 PM |
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You have taken a general comment |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 05:12 PM |
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Go AtomicKitten! |
wiley |
Sep-25-06 05:47 PM |
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How are any of your comments in this thread injecting fairness? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-25-06 10:30 PM |
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actually there is a long and distinguished list of Dems |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 10:40 PM |
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Some people are arbiters of so-called fairness and |
ProSense |
Sep-25-06 10:51 PM |
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I want to stop this idiotic vendetta |
karynnj |
Sep-26-06 12:34 PM |
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to elucidate |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-26-06 01:39 PM |
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I honestly have no idea where you are coming from here |
karynnj |
Sep-26-06 01:57 PM |
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I hope this helps. |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-26-06 02:10 PM |
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Hillary wouldn't easily beat ANYONE for the Dem nomination |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-25-06 12:27 PM |
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the polling indicates otherwise |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 05:24 PM |
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You're falling back on polls? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Sep-25-06 10:32 PM |
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yes, polls at this stage of the game |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 10:35 PM |
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Here's a poll: |
ProSense |
Sep-25-06 10:52 PM |
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I don't think that is a given. She may have $$, but that doesn't |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 08:02 PM |
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I do think that Kerry would make a far better President |
karynnj |
Sep-25-06 11:13 PM |
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You haven't been paying attention to Kerry. He can deliver a good punch |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 08:10 PM |
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oh, we're paying attention |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 09:35 PM |
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Sep-25-06 10:34 PM |
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oh please, yourself |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 10:42 PM |
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Any Democratic nominee will face media distortions... |
Eric J in MN |
Sep-24-06 04:56 PM |
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Hillary won't be intimidated by this media |
MODemocrat |
Sep-24-06 05:07 PM |
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On the contrary . . . |
MrModerate |
Sep-24-06 05:12 PM |
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It's a losing argument, in my book. |
ccpup |
Sep-24-06 05:13 PM |
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Well only because Hillary ain't Bill... |
ddeclue |
Sep-24-06 05:18 PM |
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Are HIllary Clinton's policies and political views any |
Disturbed |
Sep-24-06 06:04 PM |
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Yes they have differences but I'm talking political presentation |
ddeclue |
Sep-24-06 06:20 PM |
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Yes... Bill Clinton's Presidency will be the only campaign issue, |
Totally Committed |
Sep-24-06 05:57 PM |
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Agreed - In addition, I cannot forget that he is responsible for the sorry |
Mass |
Sep-24-06 07:52 PM |
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Easily intimidated, Isee - nt |
sampsonblk |
Sep-24-06 08:27 PM |
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I truly believe she wants to be majority leader of the Senate... |
WCGreen |
Sep-24-06 08:43 PM |
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Remember the "Republicans for Sharpton" campaign? |
ChipsAhoy |
Sep-24-06 09:15 PM |
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Sure, Clinton went off but at least he made some good points |
sknabt |
Sep-24-06 10:03 PM |
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Bill did very well |
OzarkDem |
Sep-24-06 10:46 PM |
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Tom Kean works for United Health, insurance co. They dont want Hillary. |
McCamy Taylor |
Sep-24-06 11:06 PM |
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Hilary was NOT about single payer health care |
truedelphi |
Sep-25-06 12:43 PM |
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With the Clintons we get TWO excellent people |
oldboy101 |
Sep-24-06 11:21 PM |
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Damn, Old Boy .... |
Trajan |
Sep-24-06 11:45 PM |
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Two excellent people with excellent support staff and cabinet members. |
oasis |
Sep-26-06 02:17 PM |
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Guys!! "Bigdarryl" posted this flame & if you notice, he departed... |
larissa |
Sep-25-06 12:55 AM |
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That's what they want you to think. |
Bridget Burke |
Sep-25-06 12:16 PM |
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Double Post! Please ignore.... |
Bridget Burke |
Sep-25-06 12:17 PM |
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You're kidding right?...About damn time Foxnews got set straight!!!!! |
demo dutch |
Sep-25-06 12:28 PM |
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Hillary shouldn't run because some jackass Fox news whore |
paulk |
Sep-25-06 12:54 PM |
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I never cared much for Bill either way..... |
BlueJackal |
Sep-25-06 01:21 PM |
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Sadly, I agree with your assessment of her. She wants this for all the |
wisteria |
Sep-25-06 08:12 PM |
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question |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-25-06 09:06 PM |
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Sep-26-06 12:21 PM |
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I appreciate your assessment |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-26-06 01:52 PM |
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Well I agree Hillary's in it for the wrong reasons..... |
BlueJackal |
Sep-26-06 12:14 PM |
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it tells me she SHOULD run. |
rodeodance |
Sep-25-06 05:16 PM |
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I don't think so. What you saw was what you got. |
calimary |
Sep-25-06 05:29 PM |
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It shows that Hillary shouldn't run, but in a different way. |
rep the dems |
Sep-25-06 09:11 PM |
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...and your post is an amazing example of: |
susanna |
Sep-25-06 11:33 PM |
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Sep-26-06 01:08 PM |
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No |
goodhue |
Sep-26-06 02:26 PM |
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Again, it's let's not do something because the right will attack us. |
Sapere aude |
Sep-26-06 02:56 PM |
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