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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:56 PM
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43. Biden introduced it
along with Arlen Specter. I don't know who all the co-sponsors were or if there were any at all. But that isn't the point. The point is Democrats pushed legislation after OKC that could have helped prevent 9/11, Republicans blocked it and then turned around and blamed Democrats for not doing anything about terrorism. Even people like Paul Wellstone supported the legislation, a version passed the Senate to fix the objectionable parts, but the left just continued to stand on the sidelines throwing rocks and not knowing the history or facts behind any of it. Even so-called radicals like Wellstone make sensible votes when they have all the facts.
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  -Can a TRULY radical candidate get elected as US President? Husb2Sparkly  Sep-05-06 04:49 PM   #0 
  - Yes.  Radical Activist   Sep-05-06 04:53 PM   #1 
  - That's why they killed him  ProudDad   Sep-05-06 10:10 PM   #48 
     - Sigh.  Lindacooks   Sep-08-06 01:02 AM   #74 
  - If he had even a remote chance of winning  Sinti   Sep-05-06 04:53 PM   #2 
  - I think a candidate like that...  katsy   Sep-05-06 04:53 PM   #3 
  - I think we already got one. Only it isn't the same kind of radical  The_Casual_Observer   Sep-05-06 04:55 PM   #4 
  - How about the radical bush....and his administration..  movonne   Sep-05-06 04:55 PM   #5 
  - Wellstone voted for the Patriot Act  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 04:57 PM   #6 
  - Remember, the Rep leadership said they would fix  alfredo   Sep-05-06 05:47 PM   #24 
  - The Senate passed better legislation  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 06:14 PM   #30 
  - but was he allowed to read it first?  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 07:53 PM   #34 
     - Probably read it in 1996  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 08:05 PM   #36 
        - Charlie Rangle didn't seem real familiar with it  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 08:13 PM   #38 
           - So he says  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 08:19 PM   #39 
           - I don't doubt for a minute it was originated from our side,  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 08:29 PM   #42 
              - Biden introduced it  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 08:56 PM   #43 
                 - I also remember reading somewhere,  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 09:08 PM   #45 
                    - Lots of things were ignored  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 10:00 PM   #46 
                       - If I remember correctly  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 11:07 PM   #54 
           - I could be mistaken ... but I **think** you're actually referring to .....  Husb2Sparkly   Sep-05-06 08:23 PM   #40 
              - Yep, sorry its been a while, will have to  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 08:27 PM   #41 
  - Of course. Neocons are radical. They just have to say  Ravy   Sep-05-06 04:59 PM   #7 
  - with charisma and diebold, anything goes  mdmc   Sep-05-06 05:01 PM   #8 
  - Stupid is a radical  Warpy   Sep-05-06 05:01 PM   #9 
  - FDR was elected by a middle class that got screwed by  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:44 PM   #22 
     - Of course, ronny ray-gun looked up to FDR  ProudDad   Sep-05-06 10:12 PM   #49 
        - I haven't heard that in a long time -  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 10:30 PM   #52 
           - I probably know more than you  ProudDad   Sep-06-06 07:14 PM   #57 
              - Bush money went into building Buchenwald and all the other death camps.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 08:19 PM   #60 
              - I guess anything is possible -  Joe for Clark   Sep-07-06 03:52 PM   #68 
  - No. americans want sweet talk, not leadership. nt  blondeatlast   Sep-05-06 05:04 PM   #10 
  - Not on a national level  135th   Sep-05-06 05:12 PM   #11 
  - Yes, it can happen.  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:12 PM   #12 
  - probably not - but i think it's the wrong question to ask ...  welshTerrier2   Sep-05-06 05:13 PM   #13 
  - Welsh, a very good post ,imho. Thanks. n/t  anitar1   Sep-08-06 11:50 PM   #82 
  - no  MATTMAN   Sep-05-06 05:13 PM   #14 
  - FDR did have a socialist twinge in his programs.  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:21 PM   #16 
  - I don't think that a marxist prez could be elected.  MATTMAN   Sep-05-06 05:27 PM   #18 
     - I understood what you meant.  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:36 PM   #20 
        - The country had a socialist turn in the great depression.  MATTMAN   Sep-05-06 05:46 PM   #23 
        - Thats right.  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:52 PM   #26 
        - FDR's agenda was only "radical"  ProudDad   Sep-05-06 10:15 PM   #50 
           - You don't really belive this, do you??  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 11:27 PM   #55 
              - I told you  ProudDad   Sep-06-06 07:11 PM   #56 
                 - Wait - you think FDR "ginned up" WWII??  Joe for Clark   Sep-07-06 03:37 PM   #66 
  - A 'socialist', actually, is not what I had in mind .....  Husb2Sparkly   Sep-05-06 05:34 PM   #19 
     - A radical just thinks "outside the box".  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 05:50 PM   #25 
     - when you said radical  MATTMAN   Sep-05-06 06:03 PM   #28 
     - I read the other responses - and they are right -  Joe for Clark   Sep-05-06 06:38 PM   #32 
     - That's still the piece of slime that's inhabiting the White House  ProudDad   Sep-05-06 10:19 PM   #51 
  - Paul Tsongas was RADICAL?  Totally Committed   Sep-05-06 05:16 PM   #15 
  - Mario ........  Husb2Sparkly   Sep-05-06 05:37 PM   #21 
     - Mario Cuomo will forever be the best President  Totally Committed   Sep-05-06 06:00 PM   #27 
  - No...not in a national campaign...  SaveElmer   Sep-05-06 05:23 PM   #17 
  - No. They want a face and prescripted platitudes.  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 06:06 PM   #29 
  - bush is a radical neocon - so I guess the answer would be yes  RadiDem   Sep-05-06 06:28 PM   #31 
  - Sure. A radical with spending capacity approaching infinity. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-05-06 06:42 PM   #33 
  - Not likely,  DiktatrW   Sep-05-06 08:02 PM   #35 
  - I don't think Democrats would go for someone like that......  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 08:08 PM   #37 
  - He did. Bush is radically self-absorbed, ignorant and selfish.  MasonJar   Sep-05-06 09:02 PM   #44 
  - Not a chance  ProudDad   Sep-05-06 10:09 PM   #47 
  - I certainly hope not.  AZBlue   Sep-05-06 10:40 PM   #53 
  - Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. It is what Repukes would like you  greyhound1966   Sep-08-06 12:52 PM   #75 
  - Wes Clark can be our bridge to that.  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-06-06 08:08 PM   #58 
  - Yes. They already have. Unfortunately, they're all right wing assholes.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 08:17 PM   #59 
  - yes...  theanarch   Sep-06-06 08:34 PM   #61 
  - I would submit that Bush is the most radical president ever.  rurallib   Sep-06-06 08:37 PM   #62 
  - In HIS time, F.D.R. had some pretty 'radical' ideas, & served FOUR terms  zann725   Sep-06-06 11:00 PM   #63 
  - want a radical?  flaminbats   Sep-06-06 11:56 PM   #64 
  - Yes.  LWolf   Sep-07-06 06:43 AM   #65 
  - John Edwards can do those things  SeaNap05   Sep-07-06 03:52 PM   #67 
  - So can other Dems n/t  politicasista   Sep-07-06 06:20 PM   #69 
  - Riding the bus the other day  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-07-06 09:11 PM   #70 
  - Yes, but it would take a crisis of some sort.  LostInAnomie   Sep-07-06 10:11 PM   #71 
  - No. That candidate would split the Democratic vote...  kentuck   Sep-07-06 10:20 PM   #72 
  - I still wish Perot would have won  TheFarseer   Sep-07-06 10:27 PM   #73 
  - IOW, where is this generation's Huey Long?  greyhound1966   Sep-08-06 02:17 PM   #77 
     - thanks for the link  TheFarseer   Sep-08-06 06:09 PM   #78 
  - well, a radical already got selected  newspeak   Sep-08-06 01:23 PM   #76 
  - Wellstone had 17,000 very well organized volunteers in just one state  eridani   Sep-08-06 11:20 PM   #81 
  - Absolutely  alvarezadams   Sep-08-06 06:13 PM   #79 
  - Well, Bush is in the WH, not that he was elected  Jacobin   Sep-08-06 06:32 PM   #80 
  - As much as I hate it,  CarlVK   Sep-08-06 11:52 PM   #83 
  - bernie sanders n/t  Tiggeroshii   Sep-09-06 12:26 AM   #84 
 

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