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139. Not by a mile
Wes Clark would be the only one who could beat "war hero" McCain, toe to toe.

McCain was captured, while Clark, shot and wounded, directed his men out of harm's way during Vietnam and was the last American general to win a war (Bosnia) with no loss of allied life.
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  -If Kerry wins the nomination, would he be elctable? Skip Intro  Sep-04-06 08:30 PM   #0 
  - Sure. After all, he won in 04. Bush-Cheney cheated in Ohio and  Old Crusoe   Sep-04-06 08:33 PM   #1 
  - Kerry didn't respond to smears and they ate him alive  niceypoo   Sep-07-06 08:03 AM   #183 
  - He was electable in '04, won the election  Gman   Sep-04-06 08:36 PM   #2 
  - Oh, I agree completely.  Skip Intro   Sep-04-06 08:40 PM   #7 
  - I can't see Kerry winning in '08  derby378   Sep-04-06 08:37 PM   #3 
  - Not Kerry bashing, but I see a blend of those choices  BrainRants   Sep-04-06 08:37 PM   #4 
  - Kerry would get my total support ,but it's Al ,Goofy little fucker !  orpupilofnature57   Sep-04-06 08:38 PM   #5 
  - "hell no..." was my first choice, but...  theanarch   Sep-04-06 08:38 PM   #6 
  - and what is your example of "knowing Kerry ......"  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:25 AM   #26 
     - Not by a mile  Clark2008   Sep-06-06 07:37 AM   #139 
  - Remember that this is not the Kerry that was restrained by the likes  IndianaGreen   Sep-04-06 08:43 PM   #8 
  - Thank you for mentioning Donna Brazile, IndianaGreen. You always  Old Crusoe   Sep-04-06 08:47 PM   #9 
  - Wasn't it Brazile who ran Gore's campaign? And, Bob 0-8 Schrum did  davidwparker   Sep-04-06 08:57 PM   #12 
  - No candidate is restrained by an adviser.  Radical Activist   Sep-06-06 11:09 AM   #144 
  - Oh good God....have I woken up in 2004 again??  PresidentWar   Sep-04-06 08:47 PM   #10 
  - I'm with you on that one  Zensea   Sep-04-06 08:55 PM   #11 
  - Too bad he isn't a governor from a flippable red state  skipos   Sep-04-06 09:00 PM   #13 
  - Two years is still a long time from now  Ishoutandscream2   Sep-04-06 09:01 PM   #14 
  - nah,  FARAFIELD   Sep-04-06 09:19 PM   #15 
     - What a lovely story  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:35 AM   #27 
  - He should have counted the votes in Ohio.  peace13   Sep-04-06 09:58 PM   #16 
  - Amen AMEN.  PresidentWar   Sep-04-06 09:59 PM   #17 
  - You know  fedupinBushcountry   Sep-04-06 10:38 PM   #22 
  - wow. nt  Skip Intro   Sep-04-06 10:55 PM   #25 
  - Counting the votes would have gotten us nowhere. It didn't work in  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:10 AM   #50 
     - If actually counting all the votes didnt do it,  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 04:24 PM   #85 
     - You are way off base with your comments  peace13   Sep-06-06 03:52 PM   #160 
  - Emphatically...  YvonneCa   Sep-04-06 10:10 PM   #18 
  - the question is:  leftofthedial   Sep-04-06 10:13 PM   #19 
  - Yep, and even more electable this time. Kerry was right about many  wisteria   Sep-04-06 10:24 PM   #20 
  - I think he would be a better candidate a second time  rockymountaindem   Sep-04-06 10:37 PM   #21 
  - Not with MY vote he won't.  Prisoner_Number_Six   Sep-04-06 10:41 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-06 10:46 PM   #24 
  - Why do you insist on personally attacking other DUers?  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:19 AM   #29 
  - ROFLOL  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:53 AM   #47 
  - Notice  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:16 PM   #95 
     - Ah, the ol' "nuancing" game.....  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:26 PM   #113 
  - That's strange, coming from someone who ad hommed me in  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:25 PM   #112 
  - Can you please explain your comments. No one I talk to has ever  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:03 AM   #49 
  - I agree - I've met people  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:09 PM   #60 
  - Try the voting public in general.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:16 AM   #127 
  - "beating people over the head with how great he is"  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:06 PM   #59 
     - you all have proved my point.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 01:58 AM   #123 
  - Hell no  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:44 AM   #28 
  - I don't think your Marxist club is an appreciable segment of the public  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:25 AM   #31 
  - You know no liberals then  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:13 AM   #36 
  - I guess when you're as extreme as you are you can't see  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:34 PM   #62 
     - Far out?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:23 PM   #78 
        - Convincing a committed non-believer is far harder  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:15 PM   #110 
  - Oh here comes the "yer a dirty commie" rhetoric  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:30 PM   #114 
  - What?  fedupinBushcountry   Sep-05-06 06:28 AM   #41 
  - I'll speak LOUDER  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:48 AM   #44 
     - Gee, but Dean was DLC  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:41 PM   #63 
        - You're wasting your time  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:17 PM   #96 
           - Kerry's over. Done. Kaput.  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:45 PM   #118 
              - Your wish  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:40 AM   #132 
                 - No, more like extent reality.  PresidentWar   Sep-06-06 03:30 PM   #159 
  - It is apparent you have Senator Kerry confused with someone else  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:20 AM   #51 
  - He most certainly IS  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 10:30 AM   #57 
     - Have you ever been to the US?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:41 PM   #66 
        - Have you ever left it?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:15 PM   #75 
           - Have I ever left the US? yes  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:16 PM   #103 
  - So, which more progressive candidate are you for?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:19 PM   #61 
  - I'm sick and tired of that...  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:43 PM   #67 
     - Feingold is "kinda OK"??  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 01:50 PM   #71 
     - Never seen either  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:57 PM   #72 
        - And somehow your "different perspective"  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 02:32 PM   #81 
        - I have never  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 04:16 PM   #84 
           - Your anarchistic attitude is showing  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 04:35 PM   #87 
              - If you can't stand the heat  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:13 PM   #93 
                 - Heat cooks  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 05:19 PM   #98 
        - Maybe because pre-Bush, the libertarians  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:37 PM   #104 
           - That's not been my experience  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 11:17 PM   #111 
              - Possibly due to the fact that you DEFINE  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:38 PM   #116 
                 - Exactly! n/t  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:42 AM   #133 
                 - Quoting Keller  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:14 PM   #150 
                 - Eh?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:13 PM   #149 
     - I listed most of the more likely candidates  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:58 PM   #73 
        - Here we go again  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:17 PM   #76 
  - How many American liberals did you know?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:48 PM   #68 
  - Against POLITICAL anarchy perhaps...  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:25 PM   #79 
     - Kerry is most definately not for economic anarchy  karynnj   Sep-05-06 05:50 PM   #102 
        - I see it  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:31 PM   #151 
  - Like Webb, Warner, Hackett,  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 01:48 PM   #69 
  - All those saying "Hell NO" are fucking liars  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:22 AM   #30 
  - That's true  rockymountaindem   Sep-05-06 02:54 AM   #32 
  - I didn't vote.....BUT,  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 02:57 AM   #33 
  - Those who voted "hell no" show an alarming lack of logical thinking  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 03:04 AM   #34 
     - I still think that calling name ain't the best approach......  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 03:36 AM   #35 
     - A lie is a lie is a lie  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:19 PM   #97 
     - No logical thinking?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:26 AM   #38 
     - He turned out millions more voters than any previous candidate  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:09 PM   #65 
     - Exactly! n/t  ProSense   Sep-05-06 02:52 PM   #82 
     - Charisma?  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:06 AM   #125 
     - From where I stood, a large percentage of Kerry voters were ABB  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 04:45 PM   #88 
     - And ABB helped Bush win n/t  politicasista   Sep-05-06 04:58 PM   #90 
     - How so?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:22 AM   #128 
     - Polls show that the number was not higher than for Clinton or Gore.  Mass   Sep-05-06 05:03 PM   #91 
     - I agree - and I think it was selfish and stupid on the part of people  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:51 PM   #105 
     - Exactly.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:07 AM   #126 
     - Of course Kerry got less than 50% of the caucus vote  karynnj   Sep-06-06 07:29 AM   #137 
     - You've shown your true colors all over DU, so I'm not concerned  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:21 PM   #99 
     - So have you  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:32 AM   #129 
        - "Kerry was (IMO) the lesser of two evils"  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:38 AM   #131 
           - Why is it...  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:58 AM   #134 
              - I do!  ProSense   Sep-06-06 07:17 AM   #135 
              - So if the DNC  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:34 PM   #152 
                 - No, only if it goes  ProSense   Sep-06-06 02:10 PM   #155 
                    - "In times of universal deceipt  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 03:24 PM   #158 
                       - Sure it does!  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:28 PM   #165 
              - In America, we don't HAVE a parliamentary system, and we are  beachmom   Sep-06-06 09:35 AM   #142 
                 - Insist?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:48 PM   #154 
     - Triangulation. Exactly.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:05 AM   #124 
     - I agree -  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:01 PM   #64 
     - Cracks  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:35 AM   #130 
     - Well said! It's the "my candidate" syndrome, and yet Kerry is still  ProSense   Sep-05-06 03:03 PM   #83 
     - You're discounting a large number of those who.....  PresidentWar   Sep-06-06 03:55 PM   #161 
  - Of course "hell no"  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:14 AM   #37 
  - I'd vote for him, but independents will not (in enough numbers.)  robcon   Sep-05-06 06:07 AM   #39 
  - Adlai Stevenson has had his chance  PurityOfEssence   Sep-05-06 06:22 AM   #40 
  - Why would Nominating Gore be silly?  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 06:31 AM   #42 
  - Bravo!  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:50 AM   #46 
  - Ever heard of Richard Nixon?  Vash the Stampede   Sep-05-06 09:02 AM   #48 
  - Different time, different circumstances. Kerry is not Stevenson-period. n/  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:23 AM   #53 
  - Comparing Stevenson to Kerry is completely, utterly clueless  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:45 PM   #170 
  - As much as I like Kerry, my response would be no  alyce douglas   Sep-05-06 07:52 AM   #43 
  - Of course.  TayTay   Sep-05-06 08:50 AM   #45 
  - Kerry was an ass, he ran a terrible campaign, Horrible  Snivi Yllom   Sep-05-06 09:21 AM   #52 
  - I see you are still reliving the 03/04 primary season. Kerry terrible? No!  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:29 AM   #54 
  - Boo hoo...  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:22 PM   #101 
  - Much as I love Kerry, I'm sad to say I don't see him winning in 08.  El Fuego   Sep-05-06 09:59 AM   #55 
  - You are entitled to your opinion. I can see Kerry winning.  wisteria   Sep-05-06 10:20 AM   #56 
  - Maybe but  OnionPatch   Sep-05-06 10:51 AM   #58 
  - If Kerry's our guy  JNelson6563   Sep-05-06 01:50 PM   #70 
  - Oh, not again!!!  Inuca   Sep-05-06 02:13 PM   #74 
     - Absolutely agree - and such trash would not even be allowed for others.  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:54 PM   #106 
     - So let me get this straight  JNelson6563   Sep-05-06 07:53 PM   #108 
        - "Try to run Kerry again and you'll see it plenty. "  ProSense   Sep-05-06 08:12 PM   #109 
        - Kerry conceded on national TV  JNelson6563   Sep-06-06 08:34 AM   #140 
        - A 100,000 plus vote gap was too wide to challange  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:30 PM   #115 
           - Like I said  JNelson6563   Sep-06-06 09:04 AM   #141 
              - How many concessions since 1960 occured later than Kerry's ?  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:23 PM   #164 
              - Before vote count was done?  JNelson6563   Sep-07-06 05:21 AM   #179 
                 - "(See: "Al Gore")." Why?  ProSense   Sep-07-06 06:14 AM   #180 
                    - He went on to fight for a month  JNelson6563   Sep-07-06 08:21 AM   #185 
              - I actually prefer  ProSense   Sep-07-06 06:24 AM   #181 
  - Diebold: I honestly don't believe any Dem. candidate is electable. The  SoyCat   Sep-05-06 02:21 PM   #77 
  - Evidently people are misreading the question  LevensonK   Sep-05-06 02:27 PM   #80 
  - I doorknocked for his campaign, but he lost me when  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 04:26 PM   #86 
  - Yup. I never saw a guy so anxious to cry "Uncle".  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:47 PM   #119 
  - It was as if he were relieved to have lost.....  Rowdyboy   Sep-07-06 12:00 AM   #178 
  - Keyword 2008: a president who is competent and cares about people.  Mass   Sep-05-06 04:54 PM   #89 
  - Right; all this second-guessing about "electability" is what gets us  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 05:15 PM   #94 
  - Competency is key. Or you get Bush!  Mass   Sep-05-06 05:22 PM   #100 
  - I've come to detest that term "electability" What a crock.  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:53 PM   #121 
  - Agree - and that's why I support Kerry  MH1   Sep-06-06 11:59 AM   #148 
  - Great points  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:55 PM   #107 
  - I would gladly vote for Kerry again  Blue_In_AK   Sep-05-06 05:04 PM   #92 
  - If John Kerry's on the ballot, he gets my vote.  ginnyinWI   Sep-05-06 11:43 PM   #117 
  - Hmm: 72% yes, 62% no.  ginnyinWI   Sep-05-06 11:47 PM   #120 
  - These days, when the voters want sound bites and instant gratification,  question everything   Sep-05-06 11:55 PM   #122 
  - Of course!  BlueIris   Sep-06-06 07:23 AM   #136 
  - He's smart, he's a better selection than Shrub, BUT he, as he  Clark2008   Sep-06-06 07:33 AM   #138 
  - I believe in skull & bones as does Kerry & Bush...  Imagevision   Sep-06-06 10:44 AM   #143 
  - Back up your outrageous conspiracy theory with evidence  beachmom   Sep-06-06 11:22 AM   #145 
  - I used to believe in the Tooth Fairy as well  TayTay   Sep-06-06 11:36 AM   #146 
  - Don't think he can win  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 11:38 AM   #147 
  - Oh not true  TayTay   Sep-06-06 01:38 PM   #153 
  - I think that's the problem  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 02:12 PM   #156 
     - I think you will like and be inspired with some and simply accept others  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:42 PM   #168 
     - But there were no days like that  TayTay   Sep-07-06 07:13 AM   #182 
        - Disagree  NeedleCast   Sep-07-06 11:33 AM   #189 
  - Everyone has their own view  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:33 PM   #166 
     - I guess likability is an opinion  NeedleCast   Sep-07-06 11:46 AM   #190 
  - I'm not choosing him solely on electibility  LittleClarkie   Sep-06-06 02:17 PM   #157 
  - WOW - I AM STUNNED!  lynne   Sep-06-06 05:59 PM   #162 
  - It's too early  politicasista   Sep-06-06 06:36 PM   #167 
  - You are correct and DU doesn't represent a balanced slice of the populace.  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:07 PM   #176 
  - No it may very well mean that 62% prefer someone else  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:44 PM   #169 
  - Ah, those were the days...  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:48 PM   #171 
  - Actually his numbers are better at DU this time then they were in 03/04!  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:00 PM   #175 
  - Oh, it was way worse in the primpary runup  TayTay   Sep-07-06 11:24 AM   #187 
  - How Kerry WILL win in 2008  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:12 PM   #163 
  - If Kerry is still perceived as a gun-grabber, he can't win in 2008  derby378   Sep-06-06 07:07 PM   #172 
  - The NRA is hopelessly out of touch with America  IndianaGreen   Sep-06-06 07:15 PM   #173 
     - Well said - in fact...  derby378   Sep-06-06 07:22 PM   #174 
  - Many of those voting no have ulterior motives,IMO! n/t  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:10 PM   #177 
  - Just as electable as I predicted in 6/03 NOT. AT. ALL.  lojasmo   Sep-07-06 08:16 AM   #184 
  - He came very close and he did win the primary.  wisteria   Sep-07-06 02:46 PM   #192 
  - It would probably be looked at as....  Sammy Pepys   Sep-07-06 08:35 AM   #186 
  - Senators do not get elected Pres., state governors do.  DuaneBidoux   Sep-07-06 11:26 AM   #188 
     - There are exceptions. And firsts. You just never know for sure. n/t  wisteria   Sep-07-06 02:45 PM   #191 
 

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