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126. Exactly.
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  -If Kerry wins the nomination, would he be elctable? Skip Intro  Sep-04-06 08:30 PM   #0 
  - Sure. After all, he won in 04. Bush-Cheney cheated in Ohio and  Old Crusoe   Sep-04-06 08:33 PM   #1 
  - Kerry didn't respond to smears and they ate him alive  niceypoo   Sep-07-06 08:03 AM   #183 
  - He was electable in '04, won the election  Gman   Sep-04-06 08:36 PM   #2 
  - Oh, I agree completely.  Skip Intro   Sep-04-06 08:40 PM   #7 
  - I can't see Kerry winning in '08  derby378   Sep-04-06 08:37 PM   #3 
  - Not Kerry bashing, but I see a blend of those choices  BrainRants   Sep-04-06 08:37 PM   #4 
  - Kerry would get my total support ,but it's Al ,Goofy little fucker !  orpupilofnature57   Sep-04-06 08:38 PM   #5 
  - "hell no..." was my first choice, but...  theanarch   Sep-04-06 08:38 PM   #6 
  - and what is your example of "knowing Kerry ......"  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:25 AM   #26 
     - Not by a mile  Clark2008   Sep-06-06 07:37 AM   #139 
  - Remember that this is not the Kerry that was restrained by the likes  IndianaGreen   Sep-04-06 08:43 PM   #8 
  - Thank you for mentioning Donna Brazile, IndianaGreen. You always  Old Crusoe   Sep-04-06 08:47 PM   #9 
  - Wasn't it Brazile who ran Gore's campaign? And, Bob 0-8 Schrum did  davidwparker   Sep-04-06 08:57 PM   #12 
  - No candidate is restrained by an adviser.  Radical Activist   Sep-06-06 11:09 AM   #144 
  - Oh good God....have I woken up in 2004 again??  PresidentWar   Sep-04-06 08:47 PM   #10 
  - I'm with you on that one  Zensea   Sep-04-06 08:55 PM   #11 
  - Too bad he isn't a governor from a flippable red state  skipos   Sep-04-06 09:00 PM   #13 
  - Two years is still a long time from now  Ishoutandscream2   Sep-04-06 09:01 PM   #14 
  - nah,  FARAFIELD   Sep-04-06 09:19 PM   #15 
     - What a lovely story  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:35 AM   #27 
  - He should have counted the votes in Ohio.  peace13   Sep-04-06 09:58 PM   #16 
  - Amen AMEN.  PresidentWar   Sep-04-06 09:59 PM   #17 
  - You know  fedupinBushcountry   Sep-04-06 10:38 PM   #22 
  - wow. nt  Skip Intro   Sep-04-06 10:55 PM   #25 
  - Counting the votes would have gotten us nowhere. It didn't work in  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:10 AM   #50 
     - If actually counting all the votes didnt do it,  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 04:24 PM   #85 
     - You are way off base with your comments  peace13   Sep-06-06 03:52 PM   #160 
  - Emphatically...  YvonneCa   Sep-04-06 10:10 PM   #18 
  - the question is:  leftofthedial   Sep-04-06 10:13 PM   #19 
  - Yep, and even more electable this time. Kerry was right about many  wisteria   Sep-04-06 10:24 PM   #20 
  - I think he would be a better candidate a second time  rockymountaindem   Sep-04-06 10:37 PM   #21 
  - Not with MY vote he won't.  Prisoner_Number_Six   Sep-04-06 10:41 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-06 10:46 PM   #24 
  - Why do you insist on personally attacking other DUers?  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:19 AM   #29 
  - ROFLOL  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:53 AM   #47 
  - Notice  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:16 PM   #95 
     - Ah, the ol' "nuancing" game.....  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:26 PM   #113 
  - That's strange, coming from someone who ad hommed me in  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:25 PM   #112 
  - Can you please explain your comments. No one I talk to has ever  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:03 AM   #49 
  - I agree - I've met people  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:09 PM   #60 
  - Try the voting public in general.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:16 AM   #127 
  - "beating people over the head with how great he is"  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:06 PM   #59 
     - you all have proved my point.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 01:58 AM   #123 
  - Hell no  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:44 AM   #28 
  - I don't think your Marxist club is an appreciable segment of the public  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:25 AM   #31 
  - You know no liberals then  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:13 AM   #36 
  - I guess when you're as extreme as you are you can't see  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:34 PM   #62 
     - Far out?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:23 PM   #78 
        - Convincing a committed non-believer is far harder  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:15 PM   #110 
  - Oh here comes the "yer a dirty commie" rhetoric  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:30 PM   #114 
  - What?  fedupinBushcountry   Sep-05-06 06:28 AM   #41 
  - I'll speak LOUDER  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:48 AM   #44 
     - Gee, but Dean was DLC  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:41 PM   #63 
        - You're wasting your time  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:17 PM   #96 
           - Kerry's over. Done. Kaput.  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:45 PM   #118 
              - Your wish  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:40 AM   #132 
                 - No, more like extent reality.  PresidentWar   Sep-06-06 03:30 PM   #159 
  - It is apparent you have Senator Kerry confused with someone else  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:20 AM   #51 
  - He most certainly IS  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 10:30 AM   #57 
     - Have you ever been to the US?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:41 PM   #66 
        - Have you ever left it?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:15 PM   #75 
           - Have I ever left the US? yes  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:16 PM   #103 
  - So, which more progressive candidate are you for?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 12:19 PM   #61 
  - I'm sick and tired of that...  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:43 PM   #67 
     - Feingold is "kinda OK"??  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 01:50 PM   #71 
     - Never seen either  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 01:57 PM   #72 
        - And somehow your "different perspective"  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 02:32 PM   #81 
        - I have never  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 04:16 PM   #84 
           - Your anarchistic attitude is showing  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 04:35 PM   #87 
              - If you can't stand the heat  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:13 PM   #93 
                 - Heat cooks  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 05:19 PM   #98 
        - Maybe because pre-Bush, the libertarians  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:37 PM   #104 
           - That's not been my experience  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 11:17 PM   #111 
              - Possibly due to the fact that you DEFINE  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:38 PM   #116 
                 - Exactly! n/t  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:42 AM   #133 
                 - Quoting Keller  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:14 PM   #150 
                 - Eh?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:13 PM   #149 
     - I listed most of the more likely candidates  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:58 PM   #73 
        - Here we go again  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:17 PM   #76 
  - How many American liberals did you know?  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:48 PM   #68 
  - Against POLITICAL anarchy perhaps...  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 02:25 PM   #79 
     - Kerry is most definately not for economic anarchy  karynnj   Sep-05-06 05:50 PM   #102 
        - I see it  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:31 PM   #151 
  - Like Webb, Warner, Hackett,  sandnsea   Sep-05-06 01:48 PM   #69 
  - All those saying "Hell NO" are fucking liars  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 02:22 AM   #30 
  - That's true  rockymountaindem   Sep-05-06 02:54 AM   #32 
  - I didn't vote.....BUT,  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 02:57 AM   #33 
  - Those who voted "hell no" show an alarming lack of logical thinking  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 03:04 AM   #34 
     - I still think that calling name ain't the best approach......  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 03:36 AM   #35 
     - A lie is a lie is a lie  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:19 PM   #97 
     - No logical thinking?  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:26 AM   #38 
     - He turned out millions more voters than any previous candidate  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:09 PM   #65 
     - Exactly! n/t  ProSense   Sep-05-06 02:52 PM   #82 
     - Charisma?  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:06 AM   #125 
     - From where I stood, a large percentage of Kerry voters were ABB  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 04:45 PM   #88 
     - And ABB helped Bush win n/t  politicasista   Sep-05-06 04:58 PM   #90 
     - How so?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:22 AM   #128 
     - Polls show that the number was not higher than for Clinton or Gore.  Mass   Sep-05-06 05:03 PM   #91 
     - I agree - and I think it was selfish and stupid on the part of people  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:51 PM   #105 
     - Exactly.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:07 AM   #126 
     - Of course Kerry got less than 50% of the caucus vote  karynnj   Sep-06-06 07:29 AM   #137 
     - You've shown your true colors all over DU, so I'm not concerned  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:21 PM   #99 
     - So have you  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:32 AM   #129 
        - "Kerry was (IMO) the lesser of two evils"  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:38 AM   #131 
           - Why is it...  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:58 AM   #134 
              - I do!  ProSense   Sep-06-06 07:17 AM   #135 
              - So if the DNC  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:34 PM   #152 
                 - No, only if it goes  ProSense   Sep-06-06 02:10 PM   #155 
                    - "In times of universal deceipt  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 03:24 PM   #158 
                       - Sure it does!  ProSense   Sep-06-06 06:28 PM   #165 
              - In America, we don't HAVE a parliamentary system, and we are  beachmom   Sep-06-06 09:35 AM   #142 
                 - Insist?  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 01:48 PM   #154 
     - Triangulation. Exactly.  TankLV   Sep-06-06 02:05 AM   #124 
     - I agree -  karynnj   Sep-05-06 01:01 PM   #64 
     - Cracks  alvarezadams   Sep-06-06 06:35 AM   #130 
     - Well said! It's the "my candidate" syndrome, and yet Kerry is still  ProSense   Sep-05-06 03:03 PM   #83 
     - You're discounting a large number of those who.....  PresidentWar   Sep-06-06 03:55 PM   #161 
  - Of course "hell no"  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 05:14 AM   #37 
  - I'd vote for him, but independents will not (in enough numbers.)  robcon   Sep-05-06 06:07 AM   #39 
  - Adlai Stevenson has had his chance  PurityOfEssence   Sep-05-06 06:22 AM   #40 
  - Why would Nominating Gore be silly?  FrenchieCat   Sep-05-06 06:31 AM   #42 
  - Bravo!  alvarezadams   Sep-05-06 08:50 AM   #46 
  - Ever heard of Richard Nixon?  Vash the Stampede   Sep-05-06 09:02 AM   #48 
  - Different time, different circumstances. Kerry is not Stevenson-period. n/  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:23 AM   #53 
  - Comparing Stevenson to Kerry is completely, utterly clueless  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:45 PM   #170 
  - As much as I like Kerry, my response would be no  alyce douglas   Sep-05-06 07:52 AM   #43 
  - Of course.  TayTay   Sep-05-06 08:50 AM   #45 
  - Kerry was an ass, he ran a terrible campaign, Horrible  Snivi Yllom   Sep-05-06 09:21 AM   #52 
  - I see you are still reliving the 03/04 primary season. Kerry terrible? No!  wisteria   Sep-05-06 09:29 AM   #54 
  - Boo hoo...  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-05-06 05:22 PM   #101 
  - Much as I love Kerry, I'm sad to say I don't see him winning in 08.  El Fuego   Sep-05-06 09:59 AM   #55 
  - You are entitled to your opinion. I can see Kerry winning.  wisteria   Sep-05-06 10:20 AM   #56 
  - Maybe but  OnionPatch   Sep-05-06 10:51 AM   #58 
  - If Kerry's our guy  JNelson6563   Sep-05-06 01:50 PM   #70 
  - Oh, not again!!!  Inuca   Sep-05-06 02:13 PM   #74 
     - Absolutely agree - and such trash would not even be allowed for others.  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:54 PM   #106 
     - So let me get this straight  JNelson6563   Sep-05-06 07:53 PM   #108 
        - "Try to run Kerry again and you'll see it plenty. "  ProSense   Sep-05-06 08:12 PM   #109 
        - Kerry conceded on national TV  JNelson6563   Sep-06-06 08:34 AM   #140 
        - A 100,000 plus vote gap was too wide to challange  karynnj   Sep-05-06 11:30 PM   #115 
           - Like I said  JNelson6563   Sep-06-06 09:04 AM   #141 
              - How many concessions since 1960 occured later than Kerry's ?  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:23 PM   #164 
              - Before vote count was done?  JNelson6563   Sep-07-06 05:21 AM   #179 
                 - "(See: "Al Gore")." Why?  ProSense   Sep-07-06 06:14 AM   #180 
                    - He went on to fight for a month  JNelson6563   Sep-07-06 08:21 AM   #185 
              - I actually prefer  ProSense   Sep-07-06 06:24 AM   #181 
  - Diebold: I honestly don't believe any Dem. candidate is electable. The  SoyCat   Sep-05-06 02:21 PM   #77 
  - Evidently people are misreading the question  LevensonK   Sep-05-06 02:27 PM   #80 
  - I doorknocked for his campaign, but he lost me when  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 04:26 PM   #86 
  - Yup. I never saw a guy so anxious to cry "Uncle".  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:47 PM   #119 
  - It was as if he were relieved to have lost.....  Rowdyboy   Sep-07-06 12:00 AM   #178 
  - Keyword 2008: a president who is competent and cares about people.  Mass   Sep-05-06 04:54 PM   #89 
  - Right; all this second-guessing about "electability" is what gets us  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-05-06 05:15 PM   #94 
  - Competency is key. Or you get Bush!  Mass   Sep-05-06 05:22 PM   #100 
  - I've come to detest that term "electability" What a crock.  PresidentWar   Sep-05-06 11:53 PM   #121 
  - Agree - and that's why I support Kerry  MH1   Sep-06-06 11:59 AM   #148 
  - Great points  karynnj   Sep-05-06 06:55 PM   #107 
  - I would gladly vote for Kerry again  Blue_In_AK   Sep-05-06 05:04 PM   #92 
  - If John Kerry's on the ballot, he gets my vote.  ginnyinWI   Sep-05-06 11:43 PM   #117 
  - Hmm: 72% yes, 62% no.  ginnyinWI   Sep-05-06 11:47 PM   #120 
  - These days, when the voters want sound bites and instant gratification,  question everything   Sep-05-06 11:55 PM   #122 
  - Of course!  BlueIris   Sep-06-06 07:23 AM   #136 
  - He's smart, he's a better selection than Shrub, BUT he, as he  Clark2008   Sep-06-06 07:33 AM   #138 
  - I believe in skull & bones as does Kerry & Bush...  Imagevision   Sep-06-06 10:44 AM   #143 
  - Back up your outrageous conspiracy theory with evidence  beachmom   Sep-06-06 11:22 AM   #145 
  - I used to believe in the Tooth Fairy as well  TayTay   Sep-06-06 11:36 AM   #146 
  - Don't think he can win  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 11:38 AM   #147 
  - Oh not true  TayTay   Sep-06-06 01:38 PM   #153 
  - I think that's the problem  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 02:12 PM   #156 
     - I think you will like and be inspired with some and simply accept others  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:42 PM   #168 
     - But there were no days like that  TayTay   Sep-07-06 07:13 AM   #182 
        - Disagree  NeedleCast   Sep-07-06 11:33 AM   #189 
  - Everyone has their own view  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:33 PM   #166 
     - I guess likability is an opinion  NeedleCast   Sep-07-06 11:46 AM   #190 
  - I'm not choosing him solely on electibility  LittleClarkie   Sep-06-06 02:17 PM   #157 
  - WOW - I AM STUNNED!  lynne   Sep-06-06 05:59 PM   #162 
  - It's too early  politicasista   Sep-06-06 06:36 PM   #167 
  - You are correct and DU doesn't represent a balanced slice of the populace.  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:07 PM   #176 
  - No it may very well mean that 62% prefer someone else  karynnj   Sep-06-06 06:44 PM   #169 
  - Ah, those were the days...  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:48 PM   #171 
  - Actually his numbers are better at DU this time then they were in 03/04!  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:00 PM   #175 
  - Oh, it was way worse in the primpary runup  TayTay   Sep-07-06 11:24 AM   #187 
  - How Kerry WILL win in 2008  zulchzulu   Sep-06-06 06:12 PM   #163 
  - If Kerry is still perceived as a gun-grabber, he can't win in 2008  derby378   Sep-06-06 07:07 PM   #172 
  - The NRA is hopelessly out of touch with America  IndianaGreen   Sep-06-06 07:15 PM   #173 
     - Well said - in fact...  derby378   Sep-06-06 07:22 PM   #174 
  - Many of those voting no have ulterior motives,IMO! n/t  wisteria   Sep-06-06 09:10 PM   #177 
  - Just as electable as I predicted in 6/03 NOT. AT. ALL.  lojasmo   Sep-07-06 08:16 AM   #184 
  - He came very close and he did win the primary.  wisteria   Sep-07-06 02:46 PM   #192 
  - It would probably be looked at as....  Sammy Pepys   Sep-07-06 08:35 AM   #186 
  - Senators do not get elected Pres., state governors do.  DuaneBidoux   Sep-07-06 11:26 AM   #188 
     - There are exceptions. And firsts. You just never know for sure. n/t  wisteria   Sep-07-06 02:45 PM   #191 
 

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