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Fri Sep-01-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #72 |
| 73. Impeachment could only be viewed as partisan BEFORE an investigation. |
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Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 09:24 AM by PBass
Seems like maybe people are leapfrogging the whole investigation/hearings aspect, that would have to come first.
You read DU, you are probably up on the various ways Bush has broken (and openly flaunted) the rule of law. Most people are not as well informed as you. One of the benefits of an investigation and hearings, would be that the public would learn how the laws have been broken.
At that point, in my opinion, impeachment would no longer be partisan, it would become bi-partisan. As this information filters out, I believe there are right-thinking Republicans who would have the decency to support impeachment.
One reason I believe this, is because I am firmly convinced that the administration has been illegally spying on political enemies (the Democrats) and not just "the terrorists". I believe that would be revealed, in an investigation.
Also- the President lying to Congress (during the run-up to the war) cannot possibly be viewed as a partisan issue, by anyone who is sane.
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| -Impeachment is the wrong move . . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:06 PM |
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I say impeach the bums-they've earned it! nt |
babylonsister |
Aug-31-06 09:07 PM |
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so what happens after we have the house? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:09 PM |
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I think both can and should be accomplished. nt |
babylonsister |
Aug-31-06 09:10 PM |
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Exactly - why can't we do both? |
BushOut06 |
Aug-31-06 09:12 PM |
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impeachment = paralysis |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:20 PM |
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you still haven't explained why |
librechik |
Aug-31-06 09:45 PM |
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because impeachment would take up the time . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 10:21 PM |
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Chimpus Khan will veto all of this |
enough already |
Sep-01-06 09:07 AM |
#71 |
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You assume we can't walk and chew gum at the same time |
enough already |
Sep-01-06 09:06 AM |
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Go DIRECTLY to IMPEACHMENT hearings. Do not pass "GO," do not |
calimary |
Sep-01-06 11:46 AM |
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Censure Would Be a Better Move |
dtotire |
Sep-02-06 02:38 PM |
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You have got to be kidding. |
El Fuego |
Sep-02-06 03:02 PM |
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Impeachment Is the only move. |
William769 |
Aug-31-06 09:07 PM |
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it is NOT the only move . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:10 PM |
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That should be our agenda in Congress. |
William769 |
Aug-31-06 09:16 PM |
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is there another agenda? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:17 PM |
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Think of all they've done with THEIR majority. |
Vickers |
Aug-31-06 09:10 PM |
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that is stupid . . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:11 PM |
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Aug-31-06 09:13 PM |
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Aug-31-06 09:15 PM |
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Aug-31-06 09:18 PM |
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one more time, moderates die? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:21 PM |
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We can do both |
OzarkDem |
Sep-01-06 08:07 AM |
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How do you figure? |
BushOut06 |
Aug-31-06 09:10 PM |
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think it through |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:13 PM |
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How do you figure we'll get anything with BUSH in the WH? |
BushOut06 |
Aug-31-06 09:43 PM |
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when was the last time he used his veto? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:54 PM |
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When has he ever needed his veto? |
BushOut06 |
Aug-31-06 10:44 PM |
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I totally agree |
sandyd921 |
Aug-31-06 09:55 PM |
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he's done, for openers |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 10:18 PM |
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he will resign first |
librechik |
Aug-31-06 10:48 PM |
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I highly doubt Bush would allow any progressive bills past his veto pen... |
meldroc |
Sep-01-06 04:06 PM |
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Justice has to prevail |
rubberducky |
Aug-31-06 09:10 PM |
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would you sacrifice 20 years of our house rule? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:14 PM |
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Clinton's impeachment didn't exactly hurt the repugs, did it? |
El Fuego |
Sep-02-06 02:48 PM |
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I don't think impeachment would solve anything. It would just be King |
applegrove |
Aug-31-06 09:14 PM |
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and it would paralyze our agenda. for years. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:17 PM |
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Not sure what you mean by agenda? There will still be a war in Iraq |
applegrove |
Aug-31-06 11:02 PM |
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By transparency I mean the real meaning of the word..not how neos |
applegrove |
Sep-01-06 02:33 PM |
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What agenda? |
Marnieworld |
Sep-01-06 12:11 PM |
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I agree there is no "secret agenda" for dems. Disagree that impeachment |
applegrove |
Sep-01-06 02:36 PM |
#83 |
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And impeachment can be a part of that |
Marnieworld |
Sep-02-06 02:32 PM |
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Yup! The Constitution: USE it or LOSE it.... nt |
Sparkly |
Sep-02-06 02:33 PM |
#111 |
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No. Chimpeachment would put either Cheney or Rummy as the Pres. |
applegrove |
Sep-02-06 05:09 PM |
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We may not have the choice |
Warpy |
Aug-31-06 09:16 PM |
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This is a joke right? |
mmonk |
Aug-31-06 09:21 PM |
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If we don't impeach, we are setting precedent for every leader to come |
pooja |
Aug-31-06 09:22 PM |
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"precedent" is a thug term . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:23 PM |
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If we do impeach, we won't have Bush |
BullGooseLoony |
Aug-31-06 09:24 PM |
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impeachment is reactionary . . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:33 PM |
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10 years of Dick Cheney. |
BullGooseLoony |
Aug-31-06 09:22 PM |
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Psst, We are a country of laws |
Selteri |
Aug-31-06 09:22 PM |
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I can't believe so many people are biting on this. |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-31-06 09:25 PM |
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other than being a moderate, I have done nothing wrong n/t |
hijinx87 |
Aug-31-06 09:26 PM |
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"Moderate and have done nothing wrong" is true |
IChing |
Aug-31-06 10:33 PM |
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Heavy sigh. |
CrispyQGirl |
Aug-31-06 09:30 PM |
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Have faith that truth, justice and the American way will not be killed. |
The Wielding Truth |
Sep-01-06 05:46 PM |
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I think it is the RIGHT move, on principle and as precedent. |
Sparkly |
Aug-31-06 09:32 PM |
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Impeachment Or Bust! |
Dinger |
Aug-31-06 09:34 PM |
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sorry, I vehemently disagree |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-31-06 09:55 PM |
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I strongly disagree with you |
Husb2Sparkly |
Aug-31-06 09:59 PM |
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Its about the LAW, not party agendas. |
PresidentWar |
Aug-31-06 10:02 PM |
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I think this is about pulling our country out of a tailspin. |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-01-06 02:53 AM |
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You do that by enforcing the LAW. |
PresidentWar |
Sep-01-06 02:40 PM |
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#1- We don't even have any executive power! How do we ENFORCE |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-01-06 05:03 PM |
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You are confused about the process. |
PresidentWar |
Sep-01-06 05:13 PM |
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That's not the point. I'm talking about law more generally. |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-01-06 05:27 PM |
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....what the hell are you talking about? |
PresidentWar |
Sep-02-06 02:17 PM |
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Investigating and impeaching war criminals |
Jack Rabbit |
Aug-31-06 10:10 PM |
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the truth is hard to hear sometimes |
onenote |
Aug-31-06 10:30 PM |
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There is only one flaw with your reasoning. |
William769 |
Aug-31-06 11:04 PM |
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what other avenues? |
onenote |
Sep-01-06 06:07 AM |
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Does anyone remember when they impeached Clinton? |
TheFarseer |
Aug-31-06 10:36 PM |
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There is one difference. Clinton was innocent. |
William769 |
Aug-31-06 11:05 PM |
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Bush ain't no Clinton! |
Independent_Liberal |
Sep-01-06 12:00 AM |
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If you don't toe the line on impeachment and crucifixion of Bush, |
elocs |
Aug-31-06 10:39 PM |
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I just want accountability... |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Aug-31-06 11:08 PM |
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Yes, you're right. We can hold them accountable |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-01-06 02:55 AM |
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We sorely need a thorough set of hearings on a range of topics. |
pa28 |
Aug-31-06 11:17 PM |
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The Judge ruled he committed HIGH CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS |
upi402 |
Aug-31-06 11:36 PM |
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ONLY if all of them are going straight to the Hague for war crimes |
niyad |
Sep-01-06 02:51 AM |
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What Is Your "Magic Solution" to "Rule by Signing Statement" ?? |
Senator |
Sep-01-06 03:05 AM |
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Progressive legislation? Yeah right, Bush wouldn't sign it and ... |
ToeBot |
Sep-01-06 03:08 AM |
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fine. we'd have their votes and vetoes to run against in 08 |
onenote |
Sep-01-06 06:09 AM |
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Unlike some parties, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. |
Vinca |
Sep-01-06 07:59 AM |
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Wrong. Impeach the bastard....at least. |
spanone |
Sep-01-06 08:04 AM |
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It's not a "move", it's the law. |
leesa |
Sep-01-06 08:54 AM |
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Exactly! (It's not a "move", it's the law.) |
PBass |
Sep-01-06 09:03 AM |
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I agree... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-01-06 09:14 AM |
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Impeachment could only be viewed as partisan BEFORE an investigation. |
PBass |
Sep-01-06 09:23 AM |
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You are forgetting... |
SaveElmer |
Sep-01-06 09:34 AM |
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Which Top Democrats are saying all of this about the media? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 12:08 PM |
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So the media will be fair to us on those issues, but not on impeachment? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 12:21 PM |
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Impeachment will drench the GOP and kill their poll numbers |
CollegeDUer |
Sep-01-06 09:42 AM |
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I can can sleep at night! |
lisainmilo |
Sep-01-06 11:26 AM |
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I say we at least investigate the bastards... |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 12:03 PM |
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Impeachment didn't 'hurt' the repugs any |
MiaCulpa |
Sep-01-06 02:40 PM |
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In fact, they won the following 3 election cycles after that. |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 02:45 PM |
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actually, the repubs lost ground post-impeachment |
onenote |
Sep-01-06 03:20 PM |
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Impeachment ... |
Marrak |
Sep-01-06 03:47 PM |
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What is our excuse/cop-out for not at least holding investigations? |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 03:59 PM |
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Can you imagine the clusterf**k ... |
Marrak |
Sep-01-06 05:24 PM |
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Bush won the Whitehouse in 2000. The GOP won in 2002 & in '04 |
Dr Fate |
Sep-01-06 03:58 PM |
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what part of my post couldn't you follow |
onenote |
Sep-01-06 04:07 PM |
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No kidding! All that Florida unpleasantness was a dream then... |
robbedvoter |
Sep-02-06 02:28 PM |
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Start the Hearings on every thing they've done... stretch it out... |
Rosco T. |
Sep-01-06 05:15 PM |
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Fuck No! Impeachment Is REQUIRED of this asswipe. |
ThomWV |
Sep-01-06 05:48 PM |
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i agree 100,000% - impeach that asshat and his buddies |
Freeusfromthechurch |
Sep-02-06 02:44 AM |
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yes and no |
paulk |
Sep-01-06 06:01 PM |
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With a Dem House, Conyers should immediately hold |
ProudDad |
Sep-01-06 06:56 PM |
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Conyers has a spine! |
Independent_Liberal |
Sep-01-06 10:51 PM |
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Very interesting post. |
clark08 |
Sep-01-06 08:11 PM |
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Impeachment is not a "political game." |
Sparkly |
Sep-01-06 11:00 PM |
#105 |
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impeachment |
SeaBob |
Sep-01-06 08:27 PM |
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Not if there are enough votes FOR it |
Ouabache |
Sep-01-06 11:06 PM |
#106 |
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They've committed crimes and must be held accountable. |
El Fuego |
Sep-02-06 02:51 PM |
#114 |
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