Reply #7: Too true

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Also I don't see their "libertarianism" in action on the most fundamental issues regarding liberty-I don't see them speaking out about civil liberties being violated, privacy becoming irrelevant, gay rights etc.

The only "liberties" they seem to care about is the liberty to pollute the environment, consume fast food etc.
As someone who has been an environmentalist for 10+ years, I can say with confidence that by and large its the so called Libertarian groups/talking heads that the enviro movement has had most problems with (CATO, Liberty Lobby, AEI etc. etc. And then creeps like John Stossel, that Instapundit douche-bag and so on)

We wouldn't be in such a pickle with reg. to global warming if it weren't for these people....
They work over time to create confusion in the general public's mind about the science of environmental issues...

As someone in the sciences, I can say that about 80% of the scientists I know are strong environmentalists.
The profit over everything else motive is purveyed by them fairly openly...Maybe there is a more liberal(?) form of libertarianism out there somewhere but I haven't come across it.
The only self-proclaimed libertarian in the media I like is Bill Maher....

There tools like Stossel etc. fight minimum wage hikes, universal health care etc. (only in a slightly more low profile way than their anti-environmental BS). Richard Berman-big time libertarian lobbyist in DC-the Centre for Consumer Freedom guy and asshole extraordinaire...

The modern libertarian movement scares me....basically it seems tailor made for the haves to screw the have-nots....