| 176. Cat got your tongue? (NT) |
| -If the Greens are such a threat to The Democratic Party, why don't they |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 05:15 PM |
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Paul Wellstone did that and they still ran against him in '02 |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-02-06 05:17 PM |
#1 |
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Didn't Wellstone win? |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 05:20 PM |
#4 |
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Not with any help from the Greens you say would get on board. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 05:23 PM |
#7 |
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Not only that, but they LIE. |
MH1 |
Aug-02-06 05:41 PM |
#13 |
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Who is this "us" and who is this "them"? |
ProudDad |
Aug-03-06 03:22 PM |
#117 |
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Wellstone died in a plane crash before the election |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-02-06 05:29 PM |
#10 |
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Wellstone died. |
wellstone dem |
Aug-02-06 05:45 PM |
#15 |
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'02, yep, didn't read closely enough. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:25 PM |
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In MN you can't |
Nite Owl |
Aug-02-06 05:25 PM |
#8 |
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If you can, they certainly didn't |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-02-06 05:31 PM |
#11 |
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No, there is no fusion voting in Minnesota |
ISUGRADIA |
Aug-02-06 08:33 PM |
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Thanks, |
Nite Owl |
Aug-02-06 11:59 PM |
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I have to say that's my biggest complaint right there |
LynneSin |
Aug-02-06 05:55 PM |
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Casey stance on choice isn't "moderate", it's radically conservative. |
Tesha |
Aug-02-06 07:02 PM |
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And this is why I refuse to be cornered as a single issue voter |
LynneSin |
Aug-02-06 10:39 PM |
#72 |
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I'm not a single issue voter, but there are some lines I won't cross. |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 07:23 AM |
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Except it's returning the favor to all of us |
union_maid |
Aug-03-06 07:36 AM |
#84 |
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That's easy; help convince the Democratic Party to run democrats! |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 08:57 AM |
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I do and many have |
union_maid |
Aug-03-06 04:53 PM |
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And I'm a Lamont donor, BTW. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 06:44 PM |
#126 |
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Great, but that doesn't change a thing |
union_maid |
Aug-03-06 08:31 PM |
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Democrats could, of course, change their positions if... |
Tesha |
Aug-04-06 08:36 AM |
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This comment is quite disturbing, and wrong. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-04-06 03:38 AM |
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The only people stealing my power are Democrats who run with my... |
Tesha |
Aug-04-06 08:41 AM |
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I agree and you obviously already know what I am hoping union_maid |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-05-06 01:01 AM |
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So I have a question for you - would you vote for John Murtha? |
LynneSin |
Aug-03-06 07:44 AM |
#86 |
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would you vote for Republican Ron Paul? |
GreenArrow |
Aug-03-06 07:57 AM |
#87 |
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I won't vote for a Republican |
LynneSin |
Aug-03-06 08:55 AM |
#88 |
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Worse yet, Ron Paul is really a Libertarian. |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 08:58 AM |
#91 |
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If my only choices were a Libertarian and a Republican |
LynneSin |
Aug-03-06 09:09 AM |
#92 |
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I would ally myself with Ron Paul |
ProudDad |
Aug-03-06 03:29 PM |
#118 |
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Probably not. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 08:57 AM |
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That was the biggest mistake the Minnesota Green Party ever made |
MN Against Bush |
Aug-02-06 06:15 PM |
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He would've won anyway had he survived |
GAPeace |
Aug-02-06 09:20 PM |
#53 |
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You 'd think the Democrats would welcome the |
ikojo |
Aug-02-06 05:17 PM |
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As we have, and are seeing now. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:37 PM |
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Why the fuck would Democrats want a bunch of loonies |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 12:23 AM |
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The greens can't be trusted anywhere. In BC the party is being run |
gbrooks |
Aug-03-06 07:13 PM |
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You're absolutely right... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 08:00 PM |
#134 |
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Um...the Greens in PA are not the only party to |
ikojo |
Aug-03-06 08:11 PM |
#135 |
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Wow...what a silly comment |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 08:23 PM |
#136 |
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Green voters want pan-cakes. Democrats want a Thanksgiving feast. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 05:20 PM |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-02-06 05:21 PM |
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Bravo! |
TwentyFive |
Aug-02-06 05:26 PM |
#9 |
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They personaly disrupted one of my Kerry fundraising efforts. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 05:32 PM |
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And I think they disrupt here a lot |
OzarkDem |
Aug-02-06 06:12 PM |
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Excellent analogy! nt |
MH1 |
Aug-02-06 05:42 PM |
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Good Post n/t |
OzarkDem |
Aug-02-06 06:11 PM |
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LOL! "we have been doing that since day one"? |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:13 PM |
#22 |
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I already heard that when you campaigned against Al Gore & Kerry. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 06:22 PM |
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I didn't say they controlled congress for 40 years in a row. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:33 PM |
#28 |
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No one is yelling & screaming or calling you evil. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 06:40 PM |
#31 |
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Again, I'm not a Green, nor do I vote for them. Therefore I don't feel |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:52 PM |
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That's funny- they let me in the Kitchen all the time. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 07:03 PM |
#37 |
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See, that's the attitude that has chased so many potential supporters |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 07:41 PM |
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And how is it that every time we wade through all of the rhetoric and |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 08:41 PM |
#50 |
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We agreed already that many progressive DEMS adress your issues. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 11:58 AM |
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No, we didn't. See #47. You mis-stated my reply and ignored it when |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-03-06 07:29 PM |
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It's not an attitude-the 2 party system is a political & historical fact. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 11:54 AM |
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If you think so, go ask a Whig about that. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 06:46 PM |
#127 |
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Democrats want a Thanksgiving feast alright... |
greendog |
Aug-03-06 03:20 PM |
#116 |
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Exactly correct. |
Tesha |
Aug-04-06 08:45 AM |
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It's wonderful to be able to |
ProudDad |
Aug-03-06 03:40 PM |
#119 |
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Yes, it's not about Parties, it's about ideas. Personally I don't care |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-05-06 01:05 AM |
#153 |
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Jeeze, there's a brainiac in action |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-06 05:21 PM |
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I think overall Greens, as a party, seem more interested in the Greens |
pinto |
Aug-02-06 05:52 PM |
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That's what I'm talking about, surely the party is just that, a party, and |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:23 PM |
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Politically, I guess I disagree with "protest votes". |
pinto |
Aug-02-06 07:14 PM |
#44 |
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The Cali fiasco is another thread, pretty much a contest as to |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 09:42 PM |
#58 |
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Problem: |
FtWayneBlue |
Aug-02-06 05:58 PM |
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Greens take contributions from Republicans voting for Santorum. |
w4rma |
Aug-02-06 07:17 PM |
#45 |
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Electablility is the issue. |
Electable |
Aug-02-06 10:00 PM |
#61 |
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We've already got it covered, thanks n/t |
OzarkDem |
Aug-02-06 06:10 PM |
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got it covered huh? |
nosmokes |
Aug-02-06 06:36 PM |
#29 |
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Some valid points- but why should they change for you non-party members? |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 06:45 PM |
#32 |
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I'm pretty sure there are many more of us in The Party than there are |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 06:55 PM |
#34 |
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Good- then let's leave Greens by name out of it. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 07:04 PM |
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but the dems act likethey owned my vote |
nosmokes |
Aug-02-06 07:01 PM |
#35 |
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Greens not part of coporate oligarchy? Then why the GOP funds... |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 07:06 PM |
#40 |
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You own your vote, yes |
union_maid |
Aug-02-06 08:48 PM |
#51 |
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Which comes right back to the original issue. The Democratic Party |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 09:21 PM |
#55 |
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For a number of reasons, I suppose |
union_maid |
Aug-02-06 09:46 PM |
#59 |
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How do you do that? I've been around the local and state parties |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 10:07 PM |
#63 |
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I guess Democrats do own my vote |
union_maid |
Aug-03-06 07:40 AM |
#85 |
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Trouble is, then the |
Totallybushed |
Aug-02-06 06:24 PM |
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Hold them to the fire in Democratic primaries. |
w4rma |
Aug-02-06 07:20 PM |
#46 |
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You are correct |
Totallybushed |
Aug-03-06 06:45 AM |
#81 |
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Green Party is just as much an enemy as the Republican Party... |
SaveElmer |
Aug-02-06 07:03 PM |
#38 |
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God Bless- It's nice to agree with you for a change. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-02-06 07:11 PM |
#42 |
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I totally agree with that assesment... |
SaveElmer |
Aug-02-06 07:12 PM |
#43 |
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This is how we Greens really felt about Paul Wellstone |
ProudDad |
Aug-03-06 03:44 PM |
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This kind of thinking is why the Dems lose |
depakid |
Aug-03-06 12:19 PM |
#100 |
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That won't happen, Greens are hobbyist deviant contrarians. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-02-06 07:08 PM |
#41 |
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Kerry's an environmentalist. So is Gore. Wasn't good enough. |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-02-06 08:38 PM |
#49 |
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Funny, I remember Gore's campaign emphasizing technology education |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 09:18 PM |
#52 |
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Only if you'd never paid attention to them before the campaign |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-02-06 09:20 PM |
#54 |
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Right, it's my fault. Yeah, that's what has gone wrong, the political |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 09:29 PM |
#56 |
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Sorry you feel defensive. |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-02-06 09:33 PM |
#57 |
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Not defensive, frustrated. If we can't have an honest discuss of the |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 09:58 PM |
#60 |
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Irony is SUCH a wonderful thing..... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-06 10:23 PM |
#67 |
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"Dog-Sex Ricky" |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-02-06 10:32 PM |
#69 |
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Wish I could take credit |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-06 10:33 PM |
#70 |
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... |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 12:10 AM |
#74 |
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oops.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 12:23 AM |
#77 |
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It sure does. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 12:35 AM |
#78 |
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By the way, it's interesting to see |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 12:38 AM |
#79 |
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I thought it was turtles. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 12:25 PM |
#101 |
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That was Cornyn |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 04:14 PM |
#121 |
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Your insistence on an "honest" discussion is disingenuous |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 12:14 AM |
#75 |
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I only got angry when attacked for daring to have an opinion. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-03-06 05:46 AM |
#80 |
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Maybe you should get a clue instead of repeating stale talking points |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 10:27 AM |
#95 |
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Thanks for not answering again. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-03-06 04:24 PM |
#122 |
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You didn't ask any questions. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-04-06 03:10 PM |
#144 |
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One more time. If the "other guys" are such a threat, and since the |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-06-06 01:14 PM |
#161 |
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If the Greens are such a progressive party, why don't they |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-02-06 10:04 PM |
#62 |
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Wow, you told them. Very helpful. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-02-06 10:08 PM |
#64 |
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About as helpful as their lying-ass garbage. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-02-06 10:14 PM |
#65 |
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By the way, it's worth noting |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-06 10:20 PM |
#66 |
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It's a fair deal between the two parties. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-02-06 10:24 PM |
#68 |
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The Greens have been such a success, why shouldn't we emulate them? hahaha |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-06 10:35 PM |
#71 |
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Dems haven't been winning much of anything lately either. |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 07:29 AM |
#83 |
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Maybe we would have won in 2000 if Nader's ego hadn't gotten in the way |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 10:16 AM |
#93 |
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I wouln't know. |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 10:21 AM |
#94 |
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I'm glad to hear it, thanks for helping save America from *bush |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-03-06 10:31 AM |
#96 |
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People think Dems are Greens, that's why |
sandnsea |
Aug-03-06 12:08 PM |
#99 |
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Yeah, shit like women's rights is *SUCH* a pain-in-the-ass... |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 12:27 PM |
#102 |
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The vast majority of Democrats R pro medical privacy & pro-women's rights. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 12:33 PM |
#104 |
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So why aren't we running pro-choice politicians? |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 01:21 PM |
#108 |
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In what alternate reality are we NOT running pro-choice candidates? |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 01:28 PM |
#109 |
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Umm, Pennsylvania? Virulently anti-choice Dem Senate candidate. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 02:03 PM |
#111 |
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But you worded it like we are not running ANY pro-choice candidates. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 02:15 PM |
#114 |
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A *HUGE PERCENTAGE* of Democrats head for the hills... |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 06:44 PM |
#125 |
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What Green issue is that??? |
sandnsea |
Aug-03-06 01:20 PM |
#107 |
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Nader CLEARLY stated that it was a NON ISSUE for Greens. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 01:31 PM |
#110 |
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Nader said it was a non-issue for Nader. (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 02:04 PM |
#112 |
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And Nader is the God-Father and face of the Green party. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 02:09 PM |
#113 |
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And how much of that is due to the fuckwits in the Green party |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 05:12 PM |
#124 |
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Do you always talk like this when you're trying to win converts? (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-03-06 06:49 PM |
#128 |
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Geeze, you mean you think |
MrBenchley |
Aug-03-06 07:10 PM |
#129 |
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That's right, toss away voters. |
Tesha |
Aug-04-06 08:34 AM |
#140 |
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Democrats support all those causes you just listed |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-04-06 03:20 PM |
#146 |
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Hilarious, isn't it? |
MrBenchley |
Aug-04-06 04:38 PM |
#149 |
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So why are those points I raised controversial with so many Dem pols? |
Tesha |
Aug-05-06 07:03 PM |
#155 |
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Who runs away from those issues? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-06-06 01:29 AM |
#157 |
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Okay, BUT OUR POLITICIANS *DON'T*! |
Tesha |
Aug-06-06 03:30 PM |
#162 |
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-06-06 03:38 PM |
#164 |
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Do you have anything to offer besides insults? |
Tesha |
Aug-06-06 05:52 PM |
#165 |
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To whom? |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-06 05:03 PM |
#170 |
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As I said, then when you come to ask for my vote, you can... (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-07-06 07:49 PM |
#172 |
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Geeze, you mean you think it isn't evident |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-06 08:06 PM |
#173 |
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Actually, you have *NO FUCKING IDEA* what my politics are. |
Tesha |
Aug-08-06 07:03 AM |
#174 |
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You say that like I'm supposed to give a crap.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-06 07:09 AM |
#175 |
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What a tiresome load of bullshit. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-06-06 07:47 PM |
#167 |
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Actually, I have plenty of facts. |
Tesha |
Aug-07-06 07:11 AM |
#168 |
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Oh yeah: *AND MEDIA CONSOLIDATION* |
Tesha |
Aug-07-06 10:30 AM |
#169 |
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Cat got your tongue? (NT) |
Tesha |
Aug-08-06 07:26 AM |
#176 |
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The only "voters" I'm tossing away |
MrBenchley |
Aug-04-06 04:36 PM |
#148 |
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"Fuckwits", ehh? I'll remember that... |
Tesha |
Aug-05-06 07:06 PM |
#156 |
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Hey, it springs to mind everytime one sees a Green party doofus |
MrBenchley |
Aug-06-06 09:30 AM |
#158 |
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It should be obvious |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-04-06 03:19 PM |
#145 |
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Here's the difference between the two extremist groups |
MrBenchley |
Aug-04-06 04:52 PM |
#151 |
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Sad but true n/t |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-05-06 01:28 AM |
#154 |
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The Vichy Dems would rather emulate Republicans |
depakid |
Aug-03-06 12:31 PM |
#103 |
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But hundreds of good Democrats fight hard for the issues listed in the OP. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-03-06 12:38 PM |
#105 |
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Well no, it's Vichy Greens |
sandnsea |
Aug-03-06 02:43 PM |
#115 |
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Maybe the Greens don't want the Democrats to win? |
ItNerd4life |
Aug-03-06 01:10 PM |
#106 |
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The Green Party is not a threat to anyone anymore. |
NNadir |
Aug-03-06 07:34 PM |
#132 |
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I suspect you are absolutely right about that. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-03-06 07:57 PM |
#133 |
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If the Greens are for fair elections, why are they letting |
chieftain |
Aug-03-06 08:35 PM |
#138 |
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If the Greens were not so closed minded |
MATTMAN |
Aug-04-06 03:26 PM |
#147 |
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RNC gets Greens on the ballot to use E-vote fraud to switch Dem votes. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-04-06 04:40 PM |
#150 |
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This discussion board has been ratfucked repeatedly by Greens |
MrBenchley |
Aug-06-06 10:05 AM |
#159 |
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I don't know that Mac&Cheese platform sounds tempting |
LynneSin |
Aug-07-06 05:20 PM |
#171 |
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Scapegoating Greens lets *some* Dems avoid varied issues, strategy, work & |
omega minimo |
Aug-06-06 11:57 AM |
#160 |
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Yeah, that's what the Greens getting exposed as a Republican ratfuck is |
MrBenchley |
Aug-06-06 03:35 PM |
#163 |
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Didn't Paul Wellstone do that? |
CrabbyPatty |
Aug-06-06 06:22 PM |
#166 |