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Thu Jul-27-06 07:38 AM
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| 80. No matter who we are talking about |
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Ted Kennedy, etc, etc...
This is why we must have term limits.
Bill is there because of what he owes Lieberman. That's career politics and regardless of which side you are on, it's the root of 80% of this countries problems.
Fuck the incumbent!
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| -They are not going to let Lieberman lose. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 04:37 PM |
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Funny, Clinton was on TV throughout 2003 and 4 always careful to say |
blm |
Jul-26-06 04:39 PM |
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His hold on the party is being threatened by the upstarts. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 04:46 PM |
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"It's about the war" |
cliss |
Jul-26-06 05:22 PM |
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The K/E money leftover was closer to $15 million |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 07:15 AM |
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Let me find it, there was a complete rundown. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 12:34 PM |
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Aha, CNN changed their totals from the previously posted article. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 01:07 PM |
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lol--office space (the movie!) |
ray of light |
Jul-27-06 01:20 PM |
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CNN made a 48,420,000 error, glad they fixed it. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 01:29 PM |
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If I were suspicious of CNN |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 02:38 PM |
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Thanks again - that makes sense |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 02:36 PM |
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CNN did it on purpose to foster backlash against Kerry. The corpmedia are |
blm |
Jul-28-06 05:28 PM |
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karynnj, watch out in case anyone else quoted CNN on the original |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 01:54 PM |
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Thanks for the heads up - I need to find a good link |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 02:35 PM |
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No ome gets a free ride bill..... |
WCGreen |
Jul-28-06 03:46 AM |
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Very true |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 07:10 AM |
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Twelve more days. They've called in the big guns, but Lamont |
Old Crusoe |
Jul-26-06 04:41 PM |
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I hope you are right, but there has not been time... |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 04:49 PM |
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I see what you are saying, but there is hope. Look at 2004. |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 07:30 AM |
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I think you might have it exactly right -- especially on the second |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-26-06 08:49 PM |
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Hi, JerseygirlCT. Nice to see you again on DU. |
Old Crusoe |
Jul-26-06 09:19 PM |
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I do remember that NH remark - |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 07:33 AM |
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It is The Most Arrogant! |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:16 AM |
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I don't even mind the Clintons so much |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-27-06 12:32 PM |
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Good point about Wicker |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 02:31 PM |
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I remember those sleeping bear commercials very well |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-27-06 07:05 PM |
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Ironically, what won Lieberman the 1988 election... |
MarkDevin |
Jul-28-06 04:33 AM |
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Eventually, there's a cabinet seat |
bleever |
Jul-27-06 12:17 AM |
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Who are you talking about? |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:19 AM |
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This is my polite way of telling Joe not to stink up the joint by |
bleever |
Jul-27-06 11:53 AM |
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Oh, nicely put! |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 02:32 PM |
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Very disgusting, VERY! Are they going to use Diebold to seal the vote? |
partylessinOhio |
Jul-26-06 04:41 PM |
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As I've said before on DU, We don't use Diebold in CT. (yet) |
discerning christian |
Jul-27-06 12:18 AM |
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I am so disappointed in Clinton for supporting Joe |
buff2 |
Jul-26-06 04:43 PM |
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Because it was never personal, merely political |
Taverner |
Jul-26-06 04:44 PM |
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Yeah, like in "The Godfather." |
MarkDevin |
Jul-26-06 10:28 PM |
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DINGDINGDINGDING |
Taverner |
Jul-27-06 11:01 AM |
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strange, isn't it? |
AJH032 |
Jul-26-06 04:45 PM |
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Because he knows it ain't about Right or Left, |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-26-06 04:53 PM |
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Ummm Greyhound |
FormerDem06 |
Jul-26-06 09:43 PM |
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So what's your point? I am aware that the number of have-nots in, or |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-27-06 03:32 PM |
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I don't agree. Lamont has a varied family background. His great |
CTyankee |
Jul-28-06 04:46 PM |
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I sincerely hope that you are right. Since I don't live in CT |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-29-06 03:04 PM |
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It's about maintaining the power status quo, not so much about personal |
Raster |
Jul-26-06 11:17 PM |
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Very cogent post there, Raster... |
ms liberty |
Jul-27-06 08:07 AM |
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thank youl. perhaps I shall. |
Raster |
Jul-27-06 12:24 PM |
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Exatamundo! And BC thinks |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:24 AM |
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and why not, he's fooled them for decades. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-27-06 03:34 PM |
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Cause he's doin' that "triangulation" |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:20 AM |
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I honestly think that if most people believe that the war is wrong |
WI_DEM |
Jul-26-06 04:43 PM |
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If Lieberman wins the primary, does it follow that he will win the race? |
AlinPA |
Jul-26-06 04:43 PM |
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Yes. If he wins the primary, he's in... |
SteppingRazor |
Jul-26-06 04:46 PM |
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OK, but not OK at least its not an R. (for the numbers toward control) n/t |
AlinPA |
Jul-26-06 08:34 PM |
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Whichever wins the primary, almost certainly, wins the seat. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-26-06 04:55 PM |
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Yes, absolutely. I think there's still a very good chance that |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-26-06 08:50 PM |
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If Lieberman wins the primary, I'm voting Green. |
MarkDevin |
Jul-26-06 10:30 PM |
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I don't think there is a "Green" on the ballot in this primary. |
discerning christian |
Jul-27-06 12:31 AM |
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Not in the primary |
NoPasaran |
Jul-27-06 06:45 AM |
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Thanks for that info! |
discerning christian |
Jul-27-06 12:32 PM |
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Look, we must believe in Lamont |
MissWaverly |
Jul-26-06 04:48 PM |
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I've been doing volunteer work for the Lamont campaign. |
MarkDevin |
Jul-26-06 10:31 PM |
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May I thank you, personally, |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:23 AM |
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Same here, dude! |
LynzM |
Jul-27-06 11:28 AM |
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NAFTA, Welfare Reform, Globalization, Lieberman |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jul-26-06 04:48 PM |
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To name a few |
AJH032 |
Jul-26-06 04:59 PM |
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Eight years of peace and prosperity! |
dbaker41 |
Jul-26-06 05:04 PM |
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Not for everyone |
rman |
Jul-27-06 02:07 AM |
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How soon they forget. |
oasis |
Jul-27-06 01:02 AM |
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That's all well and good but |
Red Knight |
Jul-27-06 10:48 AM |
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Don't forget the Telecommunications Act of 1996. |
bvar22 |
Jul-27-06 10:45 PM |
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Yep Bill was great regulator, wasn't he |
depakid |
Jul-28-06 03:53 PM |
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I think history will remember Clinton as a good president. |
MarkDevin |
Jul-26-06 10:32 PM |
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bush set the bar |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:25 AM |
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Don't forget about DoMA!! n/t |
xynthee |
Jul-27-06 06:01 PM |
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I think it's too late... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-26-06 04:49 PM |
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I hope you are right. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 04:51 PM |
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Kos has a good take on this issue. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 05:01 PM |
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Sounds like Kos wants a pure forfeit |
Awsi Dooger |
Jul-26-06 09:40 PM |
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Lieberman is not spending his millions.... |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 10:59 PM |
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Kos needs to realize it's not as simple as winning the Montana primary |
Awsi Dooger |
Jul-26-06 11:35 PM |
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Not really. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 11:43 PM |
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It's probably my sports background |
Awsi Dooger |
Jul-27-06 12:09 AM |
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I can understand his tone most times. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 12:38 AM |
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I don't think it's about the war |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-27-06 12:41 PM |
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Turnout, Turnout, |
zidzi |
Jul-27-06 11:27 AM |
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I understand that Clinton put a condition on his support |
dbaker41 |
Jul-26-06 05:03 PM |
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That's a theory, but there is no proof that I've seen. NT |
Eric J in MN |
Jul-26-06 09:30 PM |
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If that's true then I'm OK with what Clinton is doing. |
bklyncowgirl |
Jul-27-06 06:21 AM |
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I've been thinking that very thing |
DYouth |
Jul-26-06 05:04 PM |
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Yawn. Clinton still around? How's WTO-NAFTA working for us? |
davidwparker |
Jul-26-06 05:38 PM |
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Exactly. |
sleipnir |
Jul-26-06 11:19 PM |
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Of Course Not |
benny05 |
Jul-26-06 08:49 PM |
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Uhm.. regular people still vote in primaries, right? |
skipos |
Jul-26-06 11:16 PM |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Raster |
Jul-26-06 11:21 PM |
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Clinton made it clear to Lieberman he will support Lamont |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-26-06 11:27 PM |
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Not under those circumstances, no. Anything else, all bets are off. |
Raster |
Jul-26-06 11:33 PM |
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Oh, come one. Vilifying? Who vilified? I didn't. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 11:54 PM |
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psssst:: I didn't say you did. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-27-06 01:21 AM |
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Clinton can then go on record as stating he no longer supports Lieberman |
Imagevision |
Jul-27-06 12:08 AM |
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Yep, and those will be good times indeed. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-27-06 01:24 AM |
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The problem is that theprimary election endorsement still exists |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 07:56 AM |
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Why can't Clinton campaign for whomever he wants? |
orangepeel68 |
Jul-26-06 11:48 PM |
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It's not cheating. I never said it was. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 11:52 PM |
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yes, you never said it was cheating |
orangepeel68 |
Jul-27-06 12:04 AM |
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Well, in a way I do look at it like that. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 12:29 AM |
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We're learning just how far right the Dem party has moved.... nt |
Reckon |
Jul-27-06 12:14 AM |
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I not sure about this one, I was pretty upset until I heard Clinton's |
okieinpain |
Jul-27-06 12:26 AM |
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Don't !!! |
discerning christian |
Jul-27-06 12:43 AM |
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Yeah -besides, how many incumbants need x-prez level help in a *primary* |
Rose Siding |
Jul-27-06 08:19 AM |
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DINO!!!!!!! |
bushmeat |
Jul-27-06 12:31 AM |
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Bill Clinton called me tonight |
Caria |
Jul-27-06 12:53 AM |
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Look how this Repub is spinning it: |
Contrary1 |
Jul-27-06 02:20 AM |
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Wow. |
Clarkie1 |
Jul-27-06 03:04 AM |
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McCain putting principle before party? |
NoPasaran |
Jul-27-06 06:51 AM |
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I was thinking global warming, campaign finance reform, etc. |
Clarkie1 |
Jul-27-06 10:52 PM |
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My first thought was the same as yours - |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 08:03 AM |
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It shouldn't. |
PassingFair |
Jul-28-06 01:06 PM |
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Oh, I so hope the Democrats Lose! |
Norquist Nemesis |
Jul-27-06 08:09 AM |
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And the GOP only wants what's best for the Dems of CT. Right? |
MarkDevin |
Jul-27-06 10:52 PM |
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It's it up to the real CT Dems to TURN OUT on the day of the vote. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jul-27-06 03:23 AM |
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At the risk of getting attacked, I think the Democrats are trying to |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-27-06 04:48 AM |
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I think the percent of self described Jewish leaders |
karynnj |
Jul-27-06 08:56 AM |
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How awful. I suspected as much. Thanks for sharing. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-27-06 11:48 AM |
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karynnj, are there a great number of dual citizenships in that |
itzamirakul |
Jul-28-06 02:45 PM |
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You might be interested in reading the Mearsheimer/Walt paper |
itzamirakul |
Jul-28-06 02:31 PM |
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Is this what it will take to convince Dems that Bill Clinton is an asshole |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-27-06 06:28 AM |
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Both on TV and Radio, I hear mostly Lamont ads. NESN has had only |
ihelpu2see |
Jul-27-06 06:46 AM |
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I am not a Connecticut voter, yet I am greatly anxious for Ned Lamont |
AzDar |
Jul-27-06 07:30 AM |
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No matter who we are talking about |
RangerSmith |
Jul-27-06 07:38 AM |
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Here's an excellent resource: Vote Out Incumbents Democracy |
ShortnFiery |
Jul-28-06 05:01 AM |
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Clinton was all over the place in 1994 and we lost both chambers |
gasperc |
Jul-27-06 09:00 AM |
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You are right. We did lose then. Also 02 and 04. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-06 12:06 PM |
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Lamont will win, I predict 58%-42% |
gasperc |
Jul-28-06 12:00 PM |
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No he wasn't |
cmkramer |
Jul-28-06 05:22 PM |
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K&R-- excellent analysis.... |
mike_c |
Jul-27-06 10:38 AM |
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This is a power struggle in the party. |
Bleachers7 |
Jul-27-06 11:04 AM |
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I disagree. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-27-06 12:22 PM |
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Hillary |
Bleachers7 |
Jul-27-06 12:52 PM |
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I agree there are overtones |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-27-06 01:19 PM |
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Showing loyalty to a senator as disloyal as Joe? |
western mass |
Jul-28-06 04:21 AM |
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loyalty is in the eye of the beholder |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-28-06 12:27 PM |
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Lieberman has always been a front man for the defense industry... |
Q |
Jul-27-06 11:59 AM |
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I'll be damned. |
ulysses |
Jul-27-06 12:55 PM |
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And we know The Defense Industry is presently "Making a Killing" ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jul-28-06 05:03 AM |
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Always good to hear from you, good sir! |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jul-28-06 05:24 PM |
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kick |
ray of light |
Jul-27-06 01:18 PM |
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"they"? I thought it was up to the voters in CT? |
onenote |
Jul-27-06 02:05 PM |
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"They" are the problem, afterall so it seems |
Generator |
Jul-27-06 02:28 PM |
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It could be worse, you know. We just have to suck it up now |
CTyankee |
Jul-28-06 04:50 PM |
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No no no no no. |
Singular73 |
Jul-27-06 10:46 PM |
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Lieberman "has the best chance of winning?" |
MarkDevin |
Jul-27-06 10:49 PM |
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No, that's not it. |
calico1 |
Jul-28-06 06:02 AM |
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It's about money and nothing more. the whole fucking world... so sad |
BigBearJohn |
Jul-28-06 12:07 AM |
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We're trying to change that |
ProudDad |
Jul-28-06 02:36 AM |
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If he does win- and I don't think he will that's the last nail |
depakid |
Jul-28-06 03:51 PM |
#147 |