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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #108
109. Good Point
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 09:13 AM by Donna Zen
And reminds me of something Clark once said. He believes that you must know what you believe and then stand up and tell the truth.

If one is conditioned by politicians, you could brush that off as just another well "crafted" sound-bite. But I have listened to Clark for several years now, and that is exactly what he has done even when he has said things that don't make him popular. And that is why these videos are so important: every once in a while, it's good to hear the truth. So rare.
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  -Gen Clark tries valiantly to stem the bloodlust on Fox CarolNYC  Jul-25-06 10:29 AM   #0 
  - This is why I've been glad that Clark has the courage to take on  Ilsa   Jul-25-06 10:39 AM   #1 
  - He is a brave man to take on the Faux faithful. Somebody needs to do it!  indie_voter   Jul-25-06 10:41 AM   #2 
  - They see the uniform/title and shit themselves  YOY   Jul-25-06 11:51 AM   #16 
  - General Clark is the best Demo to take on FAUX  ksclematis   Jul-26-06 11:06 PM   #104 
  - Good point...  C_U_L8R   Jul-25-06 10:43 AM   #3 
  - And here's the hard slap of reality to the fascist  Dhalgren   Jul-25-06 10:44 AM   #4 
  - Great point!  Red Knight   Jul-29-06 10:04 AM   #124 
  - The General said last year his Faux gig was up the end of May '06  larissa   Jul-25-06 10:46 AM   #5 
  - He will be where he feels he is needed most  WesDem   Jul-25-06 11:08 AM   #7 
     - Yep, he's a true, selfless patriot....  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:42 PM   #40 
     - Yes - his job is nearly insurmountable, however  mtnester   Jul-28-06 07:21 AM   #108 
        - Good Point  Donna Zen   Jul-28-06 09:09 AM   #109 
  - Like shouting into the whirlwind  gratuitous   Jul-25-06 11:00 AM   #6 
  - Aren't they idiots, though?  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:44 PM   #41 
  - Bring back exile, if they want to be all Roman Empire.  bigmonkey   Jul-26-06 12:57 AM   #62 
  - THAT'S the Clark I know.  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 11:11 AM   #8 
  - His statements from the other day were presented in snippets  WesDem   Jul-25-06 11:15 AM   #10 
     - I didn't "fire."  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 11:18 AM   #11 
     - I was speaking generally, (not personally about you)  WesDem   Jul-25-06 11:28 AM   #15 
     - Snippets?  oberliner   Jul-25-06 12:01 PM   #19 
     - Huh?  WesDem   Jul-25-06 12:31 PM   #24 
        - not the right thread  oberliner   Jul-25-06 12:44 PM   #25 
     - since you've directed traffic here ...  AtomicKitten   Jul-25-06 05:56 PM   #36 
     - I guess I'm not privvy to the secret handshake here.  AtomicKitten   Jul-25-06 07:27 PM   #39 
        - Wow...You keep on finding disdain....  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:46 PM   #42 
        - It's coming from you and those that choose partisanship  AtomicKitten   Jul-25-06 08:52 PM   #45 
           - Nice way to respond to anyone  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:59 PM   #47 
           - Part of gravitating to thinkers and people with good hearts  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 09:19 PM   #48 
        - Secret handshake?  Crunchy Frog   Jul-25-06 11:45 PM   #58 
        - Yes, I started the thread of which you speak.  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 01:49 AM   #64 
        - You might want to step back a bit and re-read  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:27 AM   #65 
           - you're wrong  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 07:14 AM   #75 
              - Well, see, here's the problem...  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 01:02 PM   #83 
                 - here's the real problem  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 03:05 PM   #91 
        - Yes, you see....  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:30 AM   #66 
        - No "secret handshake"  WesDem   Jul-26-06 08:44 AM   #76 
           - thank you for your courtesy  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 01:39 PM   #84 
  - How Does He Keep His Cool? I'd Never Last On Any Faux Show  Dinger   Jul-25-06 11:13 AM   #9 
  - He's been in battle, Dinger.  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 11:20 AM   #12 
  - How'd You Find That Out?  Dinger   Jul-25-06 11:23 AM   #13 
     - He talks about it American Son.  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 11:28 AM   #14 
  - he has negotiated with Slobodan Milosevic  Cocoa   Jul-25-06 11:56 AM   #18 
  - Clark lost his cool once or twice during the Primary and learned  cryingshame   Jul-25-06 02:23 PM   #31 
  - Thank you for posting this ~ I heard that he was  goclark   Jul-25-06 11:54 AM   #17 
  - you're welcome n/t  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:47 PM   #43 
  - Tapping my foot  Donna Zen   Jul-25-06 12:03 PM   #20 
  - No worries Donna...  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:51 PM   #44 
     - and actually, many a leader are held up as heroes if they keep their  FrenchieCat   Jul-26-06 01:08 AM   #63 
        - Yep, what was it Samantha Power said about Wes....  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:34 AM   #67 
  - Always doing battle where it's the hardest - and most effective.  Fermezlabush   Jul-25-06 12:14 PM   #21 
  - I have to question the wisdom of Clark  burythehatchet   Jul-25-06 12:21 PM   #22 
  - I have to question the wisdom of Democrats who think...  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-25-06 12:26 PM   #23 
  - The purpose of Fox is to shell shock the public  burythehatchet   Jul-25-06 12:48 PM   #26 
  - And of course, CNN is NOT Objective....meaning,  FrenchieCat   Jul-25-06 01:53 PM   #27 
     - Whenever I see a public TV on Fox, I ask that the channel  burythehatchet   Jul-25-06 01:57 PM   #28 
        - "Comedy Central, the most trusted name in news."  annabanana   Jul-25-06 02:19 PM   #30 
        - How often does the management comply?  Jai4WKC08   Jul-25-06 02:28 PM   #32 
           - My first act is to look for a remote and change it myself  burythehatchet   Jul-25-06 02:37 PM   #33 
              - Well, if more people did that  Jai4WKC08   Jul-25-06 03:06 PM   #34 
  - "The people haven't changed, the propaganda system has."  TacticalPeek   Jul-25-06 10:40 PM   #50 
  - And I have to question the wisdom of those who would  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 08:57 PM   #46 
  - "I dont think your viewers want all their children to . . .  slestak   Jul-25-06 02:17 PM   #29 
  - It amazes me that more Democrats don't point this out  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-25-06 05:31 PM   #35 
  - their viewers' children don't serve .... they get deferments  AtomicKitten   Jul-25-06 06:08 PM   #37 
  - I think the point Clark was trying to make  Jai4WKC08   Jul-25-06 10:06 PM   #49 
  - Belated welcome to DU, slestak!  Clark2008   Jul-25-06 06:18 PM   #38 
  - Damn straight! The sad thing is...  calmblueocean   Jul-25-06 10:50 PM   #51 
  - OMG...  8_year_nightmare   Jul-25-06 10:52 PM   #52 
  - Wasn't that lady just....just...  CarolNYC   Jul-25-06 11:09 PM   #53 
     - securingamerica.com shirt ? I want one.  mia   Jul-25-06 11:31 PM   #55 
        - Got it at Cafe Press  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:37 AM   #68 
  - Man, That Last Sentence Was Brilliant  loindelrio   Jul-25-06 11:19 PM   #54 
  - It's a top-notch talking point. Pass it on. n/t  Dr Fate   Jul-25-06 11:47 PM   #60 
  - Well, there goes my support for THAT warmonger.  Crunchy Frog   Jul-25-06 11:37 PM   #56 
  - :):) n/t  imlost   Jul-26-06 12:17 AM   #61 
  - Crunchy, You're Being Naughty (Cool)  Dinger   Jul-26-06 06:14 PM   #100 
     - I'll be naughty for Clark anytime.  Crunchy Frog   Jul-26-06 06:49 PM   #103 
  - Didn't see this program. Can't stand FOX. But a tip of the hat to Wes  Old Crusoe   Jul-25-06 11:42 PM   #57 
  - video is here  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:40 AM   #70 
     - I know. That floored us as well.  Clark2008   Jul-27-06 09:55 PM   #106 
        - The host was one thing...  CarolNYC   Jul-28-06 07:11 AM   #107 
  - Clark is cool as a cucumber- good for him! n/t  Dr Fate   Jul-25-06 11:46 PM   #59 
  - Clark is JUST a man, a Retired General -  ShortnFiery   Jul-26-06 06:38 AM   #69 
  - Which part of that elevated anyone to "rock star" status?  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:43 AM   #72 
  - I can sense the gushing ...  ShortnFiery   Jul-26-06 06:46 AM   #73 
     - Still curious...  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 07:10 AM   #74 
     - Crowds at Elvis concerts always cheered, "Good for him! Good for him!"  Sparkly   Jul-26-06 08:51 AM   #77 
     - Ah, so that's it...  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 12:57 PM   #82 
        - Oh yeah, and the REALLY crazed fans would say things like,  Sparkly   Jul-26-06 01:42 PM   #85 
           - Geez, what a bunch of hero worshippers!  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 01:44 PM   #86 
     - I know- and I clearly have a Kerry icon...  Dr Fate   Jul-26-06 03:05 PM   #90 
        - Well, if you say something positive about Clark  Crunchy Frog   Jul-26-06 03:49 PM   #93 
     - You can sense the gushing?  WesDem   Jul-26-06 09:05 AM   #78 
     - Ah WesDem, you know this hits a nerve with me, don't you?  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-26-06 10:41 AM   #80 
        - That's not "gushing"  WesDem   Jul-26-06 12:31 PM   #81 
        - while I'll give you snaps for drama  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 03:42 PM   #92 
        - Come on guys- Gore, Kerry AND Clark are ALL good, solid DEMS.  Dr Fate   Jul-26-06 03:55 PM   #94 
        - my sentiments exactly  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 03:58 PM   #95 
           - No, no, no  WesDem   Jul-26-06 06:36 PM   #102 
        - Honestly Atomic Kitty, I in no way meant to slam you  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-26-06 04:17 PM   #96 
           - lo and behold we are in agreement after all  AtomicKitten   Jul-26-06 06:11 PM   #99 
              - Best regards to you too AK...  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-26-06 06:32 PM   #101 
        - Please don't bring me into this or ridicule me, Tom.  janx   Jul-28-06 09:41 PM   #120 
           - That was never my intent janx, but if you feel it happened I apologize  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-28-06 09:51 PM   #121 
              - If someone makes a comment that you don't like...  janx   Jul-28-06 10:26 PM   #122 
                 - It is almost as simple as you say but not quite.  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-28-06 10:49 PM   #123 
     - Yeah, look out for them general officers alright, can't trust a one of 'em  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-26-06 02:13 PM   #87 
     - One question about your military service  Jai4WKC08   Jul-26-06 02:27 PM   #88 
     - Just curious, are you bothered by rock stars too?  AchtungToddler   Jul-27-06 08:16 PM   #105 
  - I just suggested he was composed, and had a good answer.  Dr Fate   Jul-26-06 10:12 AM   #79 
  - He was good, wasn't he?  CarolNYC   Jul-26-06 06:41 AM   #71 
  - These foxbots go around the world trying to tell everyone else ..  butterfly77   Jul-26-06 02:56 PM   #89 
  - It's kind of amazing how defensive Fox News idiots can be against non-GOP  high density   Jul-26-06 04:50 PM   #97 
  - I hope he erases the last few FOX appearances...  Gloria   Jul-26-06 05:10 PM   #98 
  - Why doesn't Clark just leave Faux?  IndianaGreen   Jul-28-06 09:33 AM   #110 
  - Never Give Up Hope, Never  Dinger   Jul-28-06 09:43 AM   #111 
  - Because they're not ALL beyond help or redemption....  CarolNYC   Jul-28-06 09:44 AM   #112 
  - His advice  Donna Zen   Jul-28-06 09:50 AM   #113 
  - Clark being on FOX is the most any one person can do to stop an Iran war  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-28-06 11:29 AM   #114 
  - I agree  MATTMAN   Jul-28-06 11:34 AM   #115 
     - I've heard that before  abburdlen   Jul-28-06 11:49 AM   #116 
     - I disagree with that  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-28-06 12:00 PM   #117 
        - I should have stated my position more clearly  MATTMAN   Jul-28-06 12:18 PM   #118 
           - Now THAT, I fully agree with! Thanks for the clarification n/t  Tom Rinaldo   Jul-28-06 12:19 PM   #119 
  - Thanks for the post, Carol...  UncleNoel   Jul-29-06 11:46 AM   #125 
 

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