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Tue Jul-25-06 10:37 PM
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| 46. I will agree with you on that - In fact Gore was the worker bee who got |
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things DONE because he understood governance better than Clinton, imo.
If Clinton had listened to Gore and dealt with Welfare Reform FIRST as a show of commitment to their platform, they could have succeeded more easily with the Health care plan AFTERWARDS.
But the Hillary-Stephanopoulus contingent were pushing for healthcare first. Gore knew it would only survive in congress if done in the reverse order.
Gore was right - the 1995 GOP takeover would never have happened.
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| -What makes Al Gore different than the Clintons? |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jul-24-06 07:13 PM |
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Gore still has a shot, No Whitewater gate, No Hillary, No BJ |
panader0 |
Jul-24-06 07:16 PM |
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Gore was the first "name" Democrat to speak against Iraq. |
amBushed |
Jul-24-06 07:19 PM |
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But does that count? Since he was no longer a Senator |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jul-24-06 07:21 PM |
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Read this from 9/02: |
NYCGirl |
Jul-24-06 08:20 PM |
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And on 11/24/02 Gore said he wouldn't have voted to authorize |
AlGore-08.com |
Jul-25-06 10:15 AM |
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Thanks to both of you for the timetable |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jul-25-06 12:58 PM |
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I always found that speech fascinating for what was said |
blm |
Jul-25-06 10:24 PM |
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Apparently Al thought the IWR was more than that |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 11:47 AM |
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They didn't approve the IWR proposed by Bush - Bush wanted to go into Iran |
blm |
Jul-26-06 11:58 AM |
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Al is also referring to |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 12:26 PM |
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And THAT is why Iran and Syria were taken off the table. Because it would |
blm |
Jul-26-06 12:30 PM |
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You don't think Iraq was a pre-emptive strike? n/t |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 12:32 PM |
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As Gore even says in that speech, Bush could go in on the 1991 guidelines. |
blm |
Jul-26-06 12:41 PM |
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I posted that above, but I will bold it here |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 12:46 PM |
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We ALL were on that page - the point is still that Bush could've gone in |
blm |
Jul-26-06 12:51 PM |
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As is apparent from the rest of Al's speech, |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 01:07 PM |
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Of course we didn't - none of us did. But Al states a fact that Bush HAD |
blm |
Jul-26-06 01:16 PM |
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Actually Al says the United States, or any other nation, not Bush |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-06 01:24 PM |
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The 1991 res was not about self-defense, it was about COMPLIANCE with |
blm |
Jul-26-06 04:09 PM |
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You obviously know nothing of Gore's history |
Bandit |
Jul-25-06 10:51 AM |
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Actually, Gore has moved left on foreign policy issues in recent years. |
blm |
Jul-25-06 01:01 PM |
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You haven't been paying attention the past 5 years. The real Al Gore |
NYCGirl |
Jul-24-06 07:20 PM |
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thatll happen! |
iamthebandfanman |
Jul-25-06 11:00 PM |
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The Clinton hate is totally unjustied. The Clintons WIN elections! |
TwentyFive |
Jul-24-06 07:23 PM |
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Bill has done more to advance Democratic causes (left and center) ... |
BuddyYoung |
Jul-24-06 07:27 PM |
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I would say yes and no to that one about Clinton |
doc03 |
Jul-24-06 07:42 PM |
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Is that why Big Dog was campaigning for Lieberman today? |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-24-06 08:04 PM |
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Bill Clinton NEEDED Al Gore on the ticket in 1992 to win |
Samantha |
Jul-24-06 10:00 PM |
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Gore did not need Clinton? |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 12:33 PM |
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Which poliitcal scientists? |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 02:23 PM |
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That is often said (mostly by Clinton proponents) but it is not true |
Samantha |
Jul-25-06 08:22 PM |
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you're missing a crucial point |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 10:40 PM |
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Lieberman was put on the ticket for the following reasons: |
Samantha |
Jul-26-06 08:01 PM |
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I will agree with you on that - In fact Gore was the worker bee who got |
blm |
Jul-25-06 10:37 PM |
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So did Ryan and 41 and raygun and LBJ and.... |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-26-06 04:24 PM |
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Gore was the driving force behind welfare reform and NAFTA |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-06 07:31 PM |
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Al Gore speaks from his heart and from his convictions. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-24-06 07:56 PM |
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Gore is the real McCoy, the genuine article! |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-24-06 08:01 PM |
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He is faithful to Tipper |
politicasista |
Jul-24-06 08:04 PM |
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Al Gore could actually win the presidency - again. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-24-06 08:06 PM |
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Al's a good guy |
Cobalt-60 |
Jul-25-06 04:25 AM |
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If you don't know, you haven't been paying attention. |
Joe Fields |
Jul-25-06 09:48 AM |
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Gore isn't a part of the Clinton politcal machine. |
El Fuego |
Jul-25-06 09:56 AM |
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The question isn't about whether Gore or Clinton "centrist" |
AlGore-08.com |
Jul-25-06 10:50 AM |
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Clinton took those same positions |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 12:38 PM |
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Al Gore has shown real, solid leadership over the past 4 years. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jul-25-06 10:59 AM |
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Nothing really...all great people... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-25-06 11:03 AM |
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Hey don't forget Ike |
Outlier |
Jul-25-06 12:28 PM |
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Well... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-25-06 12:51 PM |
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Ike was a Republican when he did those things |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-25-06 11:05 PM |
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He also helped overthrow the gov'ts of Iran and Guatamala |
martymar64 |
Jul-26-06 10:17 AM |
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Al Gore empowered you to ask this question for all the world to see, |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-25-06 12:44 PM |
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Ethics? |
Totally Committed |
Jul-25-06 01:02 PM |
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mainstream Americans probably like 'Billary' better |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jul-25-06 01:15 PM |
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Six years in politics is a LIFETIME. As far as sticking, he was |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 01:20 PM |
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Gore has ethics-while both Clintons are HOs who |
TheGoldenRule |
Jul-25-06 02:06 PM |
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He's not a chicken shit hawk and he has strong moral character for a start |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Jul-25-06 02:32 PM |
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and the Clinton hatred falls disproportionately on Hillary |
Cocoa |
Jul-25-06 03:04 PM |
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He ditched the DLC and became a human being again. |
leesa |
Jul-25-06 07:44 PM |
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no |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 07:49 PM |
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Better let the DLC know that. They jumped all over his head for endorsing |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 09:38 PM |
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just because he's a member |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 10:07 PM |
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They attack LOTS of people who aren't members. That proves nothing at |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 10:27 PM |
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um..okay |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 10:32 PM |
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Start with this: |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 10:53 PM |
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still waiting |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 11:05 PM |
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People who aren't in elected office cannot be members of the DLC. NT |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 11:09 PM |
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show me |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 11:14 PM |
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Someone here, I believe it might have been blm, told me. You have any |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 11:15 PM |
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post #56 nt |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 11:18 PM |
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Not true |
Capn Sunshine |
Jul-26-06 12:52 AM |
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The DLC didn't publically LIST its members unless they were in office.. |
blm |
Jul-26-06 12:03 PM |
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I don't think that they have a membership roster... |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-25-06 11:12 PM |
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here |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 11:17 PM |
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So is that an up to date list or an old one? |
NYCGirl |
Jul-25-06 11:19 PM |
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there are some clues |
AJH032 |
Jul-25-06 11:38 PM |
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Consider your source |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-25-06 11:55 PM |
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There is a lot of info here at DU about their founding. |
madfloridian |
Jul-26-06 12:54 PM |
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Gore |
Robbins |
Jul-26-06 05:37 PM |
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He opposed the war before it was cool. (Clinton still supports it) |
Dr Fate |
Jul-26-06 05:48 PM |
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