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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 03:41 PM
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I heard it on BBC News Hour this AM (radio)--the 2004 election...
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with Maggie (?) Comstock and Joe Lockhart.

Let's see what Ms. Comstock, a Bush political adviser in the past,( but who knows, she sounds like she's got the message programmed already) said:

First question was on security:
The BBC interviewer cited Bush's polls in the 60% range due to Saddam's capture. Comment passed by.
She linked terror to Saddam and no one challenged her, because she was racing along with her comments. Lockhart said events like this seem to pass quickly.

The election:
Comstock immediately mentioned 1) Dems raising taxes on people, esp. the middle class and 2) the liberals in party choosing the candidate during the primaries. I have not a clue what Lockhart said, because I was really listening hard to her spin. Note the first thing is the tax issue. The second is the use of the word "liberal." Those are the first two talking points that come to the GOP mind.

So I'm mulling all this over at 7:40 AM MT. The irony is almost too much. I wonder: if Dean is running such a great campaign positioning himself as anti-centrist Democrats, ie, being described as a liberal, from the Democratic wing of the part, a progressive, etc. etc.--why are people buying it when the way he is setting himself up for attacks in the general election will ultimately work against him....And FOR WHAT, if he's really a centrist anyway???

It's a lousy long term strategy for the general election. Possible results: disappointed supporters who finally figure out he's not as "liberal" as they thought; liberals like me who are fed up with the game he's playing and realize that Kucinich is the true liberal, but can't feel more pragmatic and want Clark, who's pretty damned liberal or Kerry, and maybe even someone else; "mushy Democrats, those who wake up on October 22nd, 2004 and are confused and decided to stick with Bush because at least he's "darned right about fighting terror, why switch horses now?"; and the GOP, picking over all Dean's primary gaffes, largely of his own making, in addition to his tax policy and his positioning himself outside the "mainstream" Democratic party--a liberal in GOP terms.

Mind-boggling. So I get up and walk my dog. Much less complicated...
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  -I heard it on BBC News Hour this AM (radio)--the 2004 election... Gloria  Dec-25-03 03:41 PM   #0 
  - I heard it, too  NJCher   Dec-25-03 04:15 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for filling that gap...Lockhart works for Kerry, I believe, so  Gloria   Dec-25-03 06:08 PM   #5 
     - Lockhart was guest blogger at Edwards's site  AP   Dec-25-03 09:01 PM   #6 
     - Lockhart Does not work for Kerry.  WiseMen   Dec-26-03 12:28 AM   #23 
  - agreed, poor strategy  crozet4clark   Dec-25-03 04:29 PM   #2 
  - Liberals have no choice but to vote for centrists  NewYorkerfromMass   Dec-25-03 04:35 PM   #3 
  - Thanks, Gloria.  joanski01   Dec-25-03 04:55 PM   #4 
  - Check out Edwards's speach at the Commonwealth Club  AP   Dec-25-03 09:03 PM   #7 
     - And, I fully agree with Edwards' remarks about how we can't win  Gloria   Dec-25-03 09:05 PM   #8 
  - excellent post  windansea   Dec-25-03 09:07 PM   #9 
  - The "anti-centrist" premise is wrong  party_line   Dec-25-03 09:09 PM   #10 
  - He calls the other Dems running "Bush enablers." Don't see how that makes  AP   Dec-25-03 09:27 PM   #11 
     - "strong on nat'l security"?  party_line   Dec-25-03 09:43 PM   #12 
        - Even Clinton and Gore said that Hussein was a threat.  AP   Dec-25-03 09:53 PM   #13 
        - And the full on invasion was planned for.....?  party_line   Dec-25-03 10:14 PM   #15 
           - IWR voters had an up or down vote, and the Bush administration  AP   Dec-25-03 10:18 PM   #17 
              - The evidence indicated Hussein was NOT  kenzee13   Dec-25-03 10:50 PM   #19 
                 - That's not what Clinton says. Clinton, Gore, Blumenthal all...  AP   Dec-25-03 11:02 PM   #20 
        - current public opinion  windansea   Dec-25-03 10:02 PM   #14 
           - As I said...  party_line   Dec-25-03 10:16 PM   #16 
              - right  windansea   Dec-25-03 10:26 PM   #18 
                 - Slavery was popular at one time  party_line   Dec-26-03 12:18 AM   #21 
  - if dean wins nomination, we need to vote for Green party  cryofan   Dec-26-03 12:27 AM   #22 

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