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161. well said
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  -Why you should hold your nose and vote for a DINO in the general election. pnwmom  Jun-30-06 05:02 PM   #0 
  - This Kind Of Equivocating Is What Got Us Here  mhr   Jun-30-06 05:05 PM   #1 
  - yep, you got it  ixion   Jun-30-06 05:26 PM   #10 
  - Ever since the emergence of broken machines, deceptively designed ballots,  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:33 PM   #18 
     - uh, no, I developed that opinion all by myself, by observing  ixion   Jun-30-06 05:35 PM   #23 
        - Is there a particular Democratic candidate you're talking about?  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:41 PM   #29 
           - No  Zodiak Ironfist   Jul-01-06 07:53 AM   #120 
  - Exactly!  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 05:28 PM   #12 
  - Which Senators are you referring to specifically?  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:35 PM   #22 
  - Who's US??  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:12 PM   #67 
  - Stolen elections are what got us here. Gore won, without question,  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:30 PM   #15 
  - So, what would you have us do?  Clark2008   Jun-30-06 06:26 PM   #48 
  - I'm with you. Fifty percent versus ten percent isn't close.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:39 PM   #55 
  - Relevant ...YES.....Stupid...NO! Getting out to VOTE is a GOOD started!!  NativeTexan   Jul-01-06 12:15 AM   #104 
  - Yes. n/t  LWolf   Jul-01-06 06:29 PM   #146 
  - That's what they always tell us. I'm sick of working and voting for  Southsideirish   Jul-04-06 12:36 PM   #171 
  - Unless there's a viable Dem challenger - like Ned Lamont in CT...  ClassWarrior   Jun-30-06 05:08 PM   #2 
  - That's why I specifically referred to the GENERAL election.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:17 PM   #9 
  - A DINO will vote with Bush and the Repukes anyway...  IanDB1   Jun-30-06 05:08 PM   #3 
  - Seriously. Why do ppl insist the DINO will side with Dems on anything impo  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-30-06 05:09 PM   #5 
  - Why do ppl call them "DINO"s when they are better than any repub?  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:32 PM   #16 
  - You're right. Nelson seems to be doing a good job representing the people  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:38 PM   #26 
  - He certainly is a conservative Democrat, but that said  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:09 PM   #65 
     - Voted against raising the minimum wage? Are you sure?  skipos   Jun-30-06 08:13 PM   #68 
     - In MARCH 2005, yes he did--but it's an ELECTION year, you see...  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:27 PM   #74 
        - And I think that's what Cantwell did on the Alito cloture vote.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 09:28 PM   #85 
           - Yep, it's all tactics and strategy  MADem   Jun-30-06 09:36 PM   #87 
           - You state that Cantwell, by supporting Alito, was positioning herself  rhett o rick   Jul-03-06 09:34 AM   #153 
     - And Nelson's presence keeps us one vote closer to a majority in the  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 08:22 PM   #72 
     - You and me both!!!  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:39 PM   #77 
     - Bob Kerrey also represented his constituency...  Hippo_Tron   Jun-30-06 11:11 PM   #96 
        - Good for Kerrey for pulling that off.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:08 AM   #101 
        - My point was greatness vs mediocrity  Hippo_Tron   Jul-01-06 04:33 PM   #142 
        - Kerrey had decisive war credentials, though, and the one leg to prove  MADem   Jul-01-06 12:11 AM   #102 
           - Kerry was Governor, too, from 83-87. He was Senator from 89-2001.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:20 AM   #106 
           - I know, but my point, (which I didn't make but that was in my head)  MADem   Jul-01-06 12:29 AM   #110 
              - I think I understood you all right . . . except I guess I didn't.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:33 AM   #112 
                 - Heh heh...I always regarded NE as a kinda populist place  MADem   Jul-01-06 12:45 AM   #114 
                    - Well, the war hero thing IS kind of a big deal . . .  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 02:25 AM   #115 
                       - I've lived in Nebraska and still have family there ...  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 09:01 AM   #128 
           - He was also an exceptional politician and charismatic speaker  Hippo_Tron   Jul-01-06 04:40 PM   #143 
              - And a kazillion girlfriends!!  MADem   Jul-02-06 11:03 PM   #149 
  - A DEM MAJORITY MEANS DEM COMMITTEE CHAIRS  emulatorloo   Jun-30-06 05:41 PM   #30 
  - Please, please, lose your purity!  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:44 PM   #32 
  - Exactly. At the very least, it's a numbers game. nt  JerseygirlCT   Jul-01-06 09:36 AM   #131 
  - It makes them feel better so they can try to make people vote  Pithy Cherub   Jun-30-06 06:09 PM   #42 
     - How do you expect to EVER find anyone to vote for then?  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:44 PM   #57 
        - My choice on whom to vote for is not your business.  Pithy Cherub   Jul-01-06 11:03 AM   #134 
  - Many of the people DU'ers like to call DINO's aren't DINO's at all.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:16 PM   #7 
  - Well said  MADem   Jun-30-06 05:29 PM   #13 
  - Right. Ted Stevens isn't come here to fight Cantwell because she's a DINO  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:45 PM   #33 
  - Well, my problem with Sen. Clinton isn't her voting record,  Clark2008   Jun-30-06 07:08 PM   #51 
  - That could be a good reason to back someone else in the Presidential  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:41 PM   #56 
  - Hillary isn't quite a DINO, but she sure as hell isn't progressive. n/t  IanDB1   Jun-30-06 08:45 PM   #79 
  - People who have researched her whole voting record know otherwise.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:18 AM   #105 
     - Is Hillary Clinton a Liberal?  IanDB1   Jul-01-06 06:32 PM   #147 
  - But many of them ARE! n/t  ChipsAhoy   Jun-30-06 08:52 PM   #81 
  - True. Mine, however... nt  JerseygirlCT   Jul-01-06 09:36 AM   #132 
  - Well, now that's a fairly good argument, but it still doesn't  Clark2008   Jun-30-06 06:56 PM   #50 
  - AND with a majority we can reject people like Alito and Roberts.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:45 PM   #58 
  - Wrong! They could have Filibustered Alito - and they should have done it!  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 08:47 AM   #124 
  - What if people like LIEberman don't vote for the subponaes?  IanDB1   Jun-30-06 08:44 PM   #78 
     - The majority leader decides who leads what committee and doesn't  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:10 PM   #89 
     - Lieberman doesn't make the decision, Pat Leahy does  Hippo_Tron   Jun-30-06 11:22 PM   #97 
        - Thanks for the info, Hippo_Tron.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:12 AM   #103 
  - You do realize that if we had the MAJORITY!!!  LynneSin   Jul-01-06 08:38 AM   #122 
  - I don't need to hold my nose to vote for a dem ever  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:08 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-06 05:09 PM   #6 
  - The name is familiar.. what's the story? nt  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:28 PM   #11 
  - Yes, Yes... I am your Google-Slave...  IanDB1   Jun-30-06 05:33 PM   #17 
     - She also is pro-choice and anti-guns. Unlike the Republican.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:56 PM   #35 
        - Chaupette was only semi-anti-choice  IanDB1   Jun-30-06 08:53 PM   #82 
  - I voted "R" in my city's last Mayoral election.  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 05:29 PM   #14 
  - Not in any election I have ever participated in.  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:34 PM   #20 
  - Sometimes, the Repub is still the better choice.  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 05:39 PM   #27 
     - No, it the republican majorities and our republican president  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:52 PM   #34 
     - Well said, skipos.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 06:08 PM   #41 
     - Yuck. I was all set to support you . . .  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 06:07 PM   #40 
        - That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with...  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 06:39 PM   #49 
           - I guess in that case I would want to dig deeper into the issues,  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:28 PM   #52 
              - BTW, Candidate #1 did win the election in a landslide.  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 08:07 PM   #64 
                 - I give up. You're right.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 08:18 PM   #70 
                    - I'm torn...not on theory, but on principle.  MercutioATC   Jun-30-06 09:14 PM   #83 
                       - Do you have a Democratic Senator or Congressperson whom you will  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:13 PM   #90 
                          - I don't know yet.  MercutioATC   Jul-01-06 12:33 AM   #111 
                             - Well, I know you'll keep pondering, and not go off half-cocked.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 02:27 AM   #116 
                                - Nope. I'm not rushing into a decision...  MercutioATC   Jul-01-06 09:48 AM   #133 
  - A local election is different, and I should have made that clear in  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 06:01 PM   #38 
  - I should have made it clear that I was talking about federal elections.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:56 PM   #36 
  - I agree skipos. The decision is rather clear-cut.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 05:17 PM   #8 
  - I wont waste my vote on one. They always vote repug anyway  lastknowngood   Jun-30-06 05:34 PM   #19 
  - See my post 24 - Dem majority means DEM COMMITTEE CHAIRS  emulatorloo   Jun-30-06 05:37 PM   #25 
  - Who is the "they" ? I see so many name-callers refer to various  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 06:00 PM   #37 
  - The time to fight DINOs is in the primary  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jun-30-06 05:35 PM   #21 
  - Thanks ayeshahaqqiqa.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 06:03 PM   #39 
  - WAKE UP PURISTS! REPUG Committee Chairs are a HUGE PROBLEM also  emulatorloo   Jun-30-06 05:35 PM   #24 
  - Hey, you are being logical. We don't take kindly to logic in  skipos   Jun-30-06 05:39 PM   #28 
  - LOL - as you can tell it is an obsession of mine  emulatorloo   Jun-30-06 05:43 PM   #31 
  - send an email to Joe Lieberman  darboy   Jun-30-06 06:11 PM   #43 
  - I have been a defender of Lieberman for many months  skipos   Jun-30-06 06:18 PM   #47 
  - That's basically how I feel, too. If he throws himself overboard,  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:47 PM   #59 
  - Could he do as Jeffords did, and announce that he was voting  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:30 PM   #53 
  - last I heard, he wasnt -- AT ANY RATE, PLS VOTE FOR THE DEM eom  emulatorloo   Jun-30-06 08:19 PM   #71 
     - oh that is not for certain  darboy   Jul-01-06 07:52 AM   #119 
  - You forgot James Inhofe  Hippo_Tron   Jun-30-06 11:28 PM   #99 
  - There are purists, and there are purists.  LWolf   Jul-03-06 09:56 AM   #155 
  - Are you the same people who tell us  darboy   Jun-30-06 06:13 PM   #44 
  - Go ahead and work for someone else in the primary, if you honestly  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 07:50 PM   #60 
     - why is electability the end of politics  darboy   Jul-01-06 08:29 AM   #121 
        - Bravo!  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 09:08 AM   #129 
           - Oh, yeah, I'm so glad that "bullying" didn't work...  Kerry4Kerry   Jul-01-06 04:01 PM   #140 
  - The DINO you and I have in mind had the opportunity to fillibuster  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-30-06 06:14 PM   #45 
  - If Cantwell had been part of a Democratic MAJORITY, neither Alito nor  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 08:01 PM   #61 
  - Well stated lumberjack. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-03-06 09:28 AM   #152 
  - Of course. A DINO is better than any Republican. n/t  ginnyinWI   Jun-30-06 06:15 PM   #46 
  - Unfortunately, a fair number of DU'ers appear to disagree with you.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:21 AM   #107 
  - I don't have to - all our Ohio Dem candidates are good  OzarkDem   Jun-30-06 07:37 PM   #54 
  - That's music to my ears.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 08:04 PM   #62 
  - "You, and your principles"  welshTerrier2   Jun-30-06 08:04 PM   #63 
  - We don't start weeding them out until we have some more grass in place.  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 08:10 PM   #66 
     - You know, that is a GOOD question!  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:16 PM   #69 
     - since you're asking ...  welshTerrier2   Jun-30-06 08:29 PM   #75 
        - OK, so you are a ONE ISSUE VOTER  MADem   Jun-30-06 08:36 PM   #76 
        - yes, we're all pragmatists  welshTerrier2   Jun-30-06 08:48 PM   #80 
           - I didn't say anything about getting out in a year, you must be confusing  MADem   Jun-30-06 09:21 PM   #84 
           - no, i realize you didn't  welshTerrier2   Jun-30-06 09:33 PM   #86 
              - Well, when you go to vote, if you go to vote  MADem   Jun-30-06 09:40 PM   #88 
              - How do the "end the war in a year" Democrats NOT put pressure on the  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:40 PM   #95 
           - In what sense are you a pragmatist?  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:32 PM   #94 
        - Okay, your expression was "sold us down the river," which is a reference  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:22 PM   #91 
     - i didn't use the term loathsome  welshTerrier2   Jun-30-06 08:24 PM   #73 
        - Are you saying that even in the 2008 general election you won't vote  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:27 PM   #92 
        - Selling people down the river is worse than loathsome, historically,  pnwmom   Jun-30-06 10:30 PM   #93 
           - THEY sold US down the river by allowing Alito to become a SC justice n/t  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 08:50 AM   #125 
  - In a general election, sure  Strawman   Jun-30-06 11:26 PM   #98 
  - How do you decide who is a DINO? Just wondering.  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:23 AM   #108 
     - You know it when you see THEM and they are paid off by corporations  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 08:55 AM   #127 
  - Why we should form popular movements...  Terran1212   Jul-01-06 12:08 AM   #100 
  - Popular movements are good for pulling us in a better direction -- as long  pnwmom   Jul-01-06 12:25 AM   #109 
  - Yes!  MercutioATC   Jul-01-06 12:39 AM   #113 
  - Great - how many more years of Republican majority should I suffer though?  LynneSin   Jul-01-06 08:40 AM   #123 
     - No one wants that!  Terran1212   Jul-01-06 12:00 PM   #135 
        - Then we need both a short term and long term plan  LynneSin   Jul-01-06 03:41 PM   #139 
           - I believe Dkos has been a co-opted wing of the Democratic Party  Terran1212   Jul-01-06 06:02 PM   #144 
  - (D) is just a letter  anewdeal   Jul-01-06 04:51 AM   #117 
  - Agree!  ShortnFiery   Jul-01-06 08:54 AM   #126 
  - Not to the other (D)s who derive power from a possible majority.  ClassWarrior   Jul-03-06 10:16 AM   #158 
  - "nibbling around the edges of the conservative block"  rman   Jul-01-06 05:16 AM   #118 
  - Never fear. I won't be voting for our DINO in the primaries  JerseygirlCT   Jul-01-06 09:35 AM   #130 
  - Hold my nose and vote for a DINO in the GE?  Totally Committed   Jul-01-06 12:08 PM   #136 
  - LOL! What a brilliant plan!  paulk   Jul-01-06 12:36 PM   #137 
  - I advocate this:  LWolf   Jul-03-06 10:01 AM   #156 
     - Sounds good to me! eom  Totally Committed   Jul-03-06 10:12 AM   #157 
     - why don't you just write in your own name every time?  onenote   Jul-03-06 10:38 AM   #160 
     - I'm not running for office.  LWolf   Jul-03-06 01:27 PM   #164 
     - actually, a "responsible" use of your vote  paulk   Jul-03-06 12:35 PM   #162 
        - Having cast votes  LWolf   Jul-03-06 01:22 PM   #163 
           - how is it common sense to throw away your vote on a candidate  paulk   Jul-03-06 02:17 PM   #165 
              - what i don't understand is voting for a non-candidate?  onenote   Jul-03-06 02:21 PM   #166 
              - I'm dumfounded by it  paulk   Jul-03-06 02:40 PM   #167 
              - To answer your question/s:  LWolf   Jul-03-06 03:15 PM   #169 
                 - you reject the idea that voting for a Dem, even one you find  paulk   Jul-04-06 12:24 PM   #170 
                    - I never said I rejected the idea of voting for a Dem.  LWolf   Jul-04-06 05:44 PM   #173 
  - Not even for Judiciary Chairman John Conyers?  ClassWarrior   Jul-03-06 10:17 AM   #159 
  - I've held my nose in many cases, for I will never vote Republican  MODemocrat   Jul-01-06 02:54 PM   #138 
  - I'd vote for a bolgna sandwich if it had a D after it, I will not vote G  rosebud57   Jul-01-06 04:11 PM   #141 
  - The term DINO  AtomicKitten   Jul-01-06 06:22 PM   #145 
  - kicking n/t  emulatorloo   Jul-02-06 04:33 PM   #148 
  - That's no problem in Texas....  Bridget Burke   Jul-03-06 09:19 AM   #150 
  - Maria Cantwell has done nothing to prevent the current SCOTUS makeup.  rhett o rick   Jul-03-06 09:24 AM   #151 
  - I object to the term DINO...in virtually all cases...  SaveElmer   Jul-03-06 09:42 AM   #154 
  - well said  onenote   Jul-03-06 10:39 AM   #161 
  - better a dino in a democratic controlled house or senate  samsingh   Jul-03-06 02:41 PM   #168 
  - Throw the shoe on the other foot...  VirginiaDem   Jul-04-06 01:57 PM   #172 
 

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