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carl_pwccaman (259 posts)

Sat Jun-17-06 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #71

73. IF certain Republicans are fascist their fascism is not yet in full flower

I.e., you can make a case that some of these folks may have this ideology/intention/plan, or that things are evolving in a Fascist direction somehow or other, BUT the abuse of power at home through such authoritarianism, has not reached typical Fascist-level extremes, when compared to Mussolini and Franco.

So what's holding them back, might be a good question to ask? I suppose we could speculate about a number of possible reasons.

How might people make for more reasons for quazi-fascists or neo-fascists, whatever label you want to give them, to hold themselves back, or get them out of positions of power?

That seems to me some practical ways to address this.

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None dare call it 'fascism'. I ask, why not?	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 04:12 PM	#0
I have no problem	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:15 PM	#1
What with Prescott Bush and all	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:18 PM	#2
Because "Nazi"	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:29 PM	#8
Bush family supported the Holocaust	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:31 PM	#9
Okay, let me get this straight	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:37 PM	#11
Grannie, I got your back on this one	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 04:41 PM	#13
So what made them stop, and when?	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:42 PM	#15
Elaborate	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:48 PM	#20
No, I mean the Bush crime family	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:53 PM	#23
Wow, Jed...	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:00 PM	#29
I don't think they've started	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 04:51 PM	#22
Look up Prescott Bush	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:53 PM	#25
A few of us have your back on this one. Indeed while George W's GOP	papau	Jun-17-06 06:13 PM	#64
It's a numbers thing to you?	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:42 PM	#14
Yes, numbers	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:47 PM	#18
So how many deaths through racist and piratical warfare	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:48 PM	#19
Now, now	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 04:55 PM	#27
Well, I heartily disagree.	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 04:58 PM	#28
You May Believe It To Be The Truth, Sir, But That Does Not Make It So	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:07 PM	#33
Well, come on over to my place	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 05:08 PM	#35
LOL	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:09 PM	#39
If You Wish An Examination, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:17 PM	#47
You know, I would like to have a lengthy discussion with you	Jed Dilligan	Jun-18-06 12:25 AM	#90
That, Sir, Is An Interesting Way To Avoid Giving An Answer To The Question	The Magistrate	Jun-18-06 01:27 AM	#94
I'm not dodging anything	Jed Dilligan	Jun-18-06 01:29 AM	#95
PS	Jed Dilligan	Jun-18-06 01:35 AM	#96
Of Course There May Be Different Opinions, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-18-06 01:59 AM	#99
Really, I won't talk to you if you call me "sir"	Jed Dilligan	Jun-18-06 10:34 AM	#106
Do you really belive that Hitler didnt have inspiration	inthebrain	Jun-18-06 01:42 AM	#97
He Certainly Liked 'Old Shatterhand' Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-18-06 01:55 AM	#98
Then we will have to agree to disagree	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:08 PM	#36
There's a thread I just saw that says, on the contrary	Jed Dilligan	Jun-17-06 05:12 PM	#41
I could be convinced that he has	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:16 PM	#44
Oh My Goodness, Mr. Dilligan	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:26 PM	#50
Thank you for bringing up	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:31 PM	#54
You Are Most Welcome, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:36 PM	#56
I still think German culture, 1939	Jed Dilligan	Jun-18-06 12:17 AM	#89
And You Would Be Wrong, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-18-06 01:18 AM	#93
What makes today scarier than 1941	ayeshahaqqiqa	Jun-17-06 06:54 PM	#70
Granny are the estimated 300,000 dead Iraqi civilians a big enough	Vincardog	Jun-17-06 05:06 PM	#30
You gave numbers to my argument	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:13 PM	#42
Can we agree that the most important thing is to stop his crazy agenda?	Vincardog	Jun-17-06 05:16 PM	#45
Yes, we are in total agreement on that.	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:17 PM	#46
What about comparisons of America today with Germany just	treestar	Jun-17-06 09:11 PM	#81
Just as a	DIKB	Jun-17-06 08:20 PM	#76
So, Hitler wasn't evil before he killed 6 million?	tavalon	Jun-17-06 09:14 PM	#82
Yeah, Dubya isn't a Hitler.	Benhurst	Jun-17-06 04:43 PM	#16
Is morality really based on a head-count?	FiveGoodMen	Jun-17-06 05:08 PM	#34
No, we should not give him a pass	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:22 PM	#48
I can.	FiveGoodMen	Jun-17-06 05:42 PM	#59
Well, that's true	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 06:35 PM	#67
Six million - not 60 - if you're talking about Jewish deaths.	Clark2008	Jun-17-06 05:09 PM	#38
I was referring to the total	TallahasseeGrannie	Jun-17-06 05:28 PM	#52
Mike Malloy devoted a program to discussing Holocaust matters	truedelphi	Jun-17-06 09:25 PM	#84
I agree with you on use of the word "Nazi"	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 04:25 PM	#4
"fascism" is just Italian for "nazism"	rman	Jun-18-06 07:35 AM	#103
If it isn't Fascism, what the hell is it??????	BrklynLiberal	Jun-17-06 04:23 PM	#3
K & R you have to name the beast in order to defeat it	Vincardog	Jun-17-06 04:25 PM	#5
don't leave out 'corporative state'	ShockediSay	Jun-17-06 04:28 PM	#6
That goes without saying	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 04:36 PM	#10
AMEN, brother!	Totally Committed	Jun-17-06 04:50 PM	#21
Why? Because we're Americans!	EstimatedProphet	Jun-17-06 04:29 PM	#7
Fascist governments have never fallen from within -	Dhalgren	Jun-17-06 04:40 PM	#12
One exception being Spain	kenny blankenship	Jun-17-06 04:54 PM	#26
.... hence my final link in the OP.	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 05:09 PM	#37
Call a spade a spade.	democrank	Jun-17-06 04:44 PM	#17
There Are Two Points, Sir, That Make The Identification Difficult To Sell	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 04:53 PM	#24
Those are actually good points.	Warren Stupidity	Jun-17-06 05:07 PM	#31
"it is a state of the art fascism"	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 05:15 PM	#43
Thank You, Mr. Warren	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:31 PM	#55
Zactly	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 05:39 PM	#58
I come away from reading your reply with a feeling that you and I could	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-17-06 05:07 PM	#32
We Could Certainly Agree On That Term, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 05:11 PM	#40
Danger yet...	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 05:38 PM	#57
So It Is Your Serious Belief, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 06:09 PM	#63
Please do not be disingenuous	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 06:30 PM	#66
My Curiousity Is Quite Genuine, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 06:50 PM	#69
Given recent circumstance	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 07:06 PM	#72
You Can Find Antagonistic Debate Here, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 07:42 PM	#75
Disingenuous	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 05:27 PM	#51
If You Say So, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 06:01 PM	#61
Clarification?	alvarezadams	Jun-17-06 06:47 PM	#68
Power, Sir	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 07:22 PM	#74
I tend to agree with you quite strongly.	Dhalgren	Jun-17-06 06:04 PM	#62
As soon as the "The Left" aka Democrats find a way	kenny blankenship	Jun-17-06 05:54 PM	#60
Brown Shirts	PADemD	Jun-17-06 08:51 PM	#78
Being Marched Out, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 08:55 PM	#79
Delete	PADemD	Jun-17-06 11:40 PM	#88
Deleted message	Name removed	Jun-17-06 09:16 PM	#83
Fascism arise whenever an entire grooup of people	truedelphi	Jun-17-06 09:34 PM	#86
Actually, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Jun-17-06 09:51 PM	#87
When the governing institutions align themselves	truedelphi	Jun-18-06 10:07 PM	#110
Fascism is about class war.	malikstein	Jun-17-06 05:24 PM	#49
welcome to the site!	Blue_Tires	Jun-17-06 05:31 PM	#53
That is true. don't ya think it is time for America's middle and working	Vincardog	Jun-17-06 06:27 PM	#65
Not neccissarily.	Odin2005	Jun-18-06 01:16 PM	#109
Well, they certainly had their Reichstag Fire: 9/11	reprehensor	Jun-17-06 07:01 PM	#71
IF certain Republicans are fascist their fascism is not yet in full flower	carl_pwccaman	Jun-17-06 07:16 PM	#73
Deleted message	Name removed	Jun-17-06 08:47 PM	#77
Been calling it Fascist for about two years now	tavalon	Jun-17-06 09:09 PM	#80
I concur, it is getting close to totalitarian-this form of fascism. eom.	bobthedrummer	Jun-17-06 09:26 PM	#85
Fascism -- monarchism -- theocracy -- it's all the same thing.	Senator	Jun-18-06 12:29 AM	#91
No it is not all the same thing	carl_pwccaman	Jun-20-06 02:39 AM	#111
Fascism and America Today by Aldo Vidali	reprehensor	Jun-18-06 12:52 AM	#92
An Inconvenient Truth	Reckon	Jun-18-06 02:59 AM	#100
Good read. reprehensor.	Reckon	Jun-18-06 03:17 AM	#101
We can just call it dictatorship,	rman	Jun-18-06 07:34 AM	#102
Use the word "fascism" liberally	JNelson6563	Jun-18-06 08:07 AM	#104
Why are words just a game to you?	carl_pwccaman	Jun-20-06 02:43 AM	#112
I think it's because we haven't elected a permanent leader...	otherlander	Jun-18-06 08:23 AM	#105
I have posted a related thread at:	Totally Committed	Jun-18-06 10:45 AM	#107
TC, I just kicked your thread. It is a perfect mate for this thread	Husb2Sparkly	Jun-18-06 01:00 PM	#108
I dont like having that word "off limits" either.	Dr Fate	Jun-20-06 03:47 AM	#113

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