Reply #22: Your stuck on jingosim

[inthebrain]

If your goofy economics theory held an ounce of merit the porous borders WOULD RAISE THE FUCKING WAGES IN MEXICO!!!!!

There would also be no need for mimimum wage laws in this country!!!!

If your supply and demand economic gibberish made any sense there never would have been a need for a labor movement in this country. I suppose you'll offer up some supply and demand gibberish as to how the "middle class" ever came into existence in this country. Explain to me how it was "market forces" that put an end to child labor?

Fact of the matter is that even the very same capitalists who often eschew these ridiculous theories are the last to belive in them. Hence that's why we have what ammounts to collusion when it comes low wage work. None of these idiots want to compete with each other for labor. That's why they are busy tearing down Unions. banruptsy protections and overtime laws.

Perhaps you havent figured that out yet. If the free market was designed to be so kind to you and me there would be no need for any of those things.

Yet American corporations have now gone global and you think an American labor movement alone is going to curb that? You can't possibly be so foolish and so narrow to belive that?

Yet here we have the constant scapegoating of illegals as if they are driving down wages. Here's a hint, we have fucking labor standards in this country. It's not the illegals that are destroying them, it's the people that are supposed to be overseeing that those standards are upheld that are destroying them. The issue at hand is paying people a fair wage regardless of where they come from!!!!!

If you truly believed your economic theories you would understand how enforcing strict boarder controls would also work against it. Supply and Demand economics are also driven by choice. Allowing capital free movement to exploit on the other side of the border hurts labor on this side of the border!!!!

What has always killed labor movements is the resistence by many of it's leaders and those on the inside to include those that are exploited the most. These groups are blacks, orientals, Irish, Women and just about everyother powerless group you can think of.

If it was a matter of me hating the middle class I would just say nothing and watch you circle the toilet. The problem seems to me is that there are many that think they deserve priveledge and that the poor exist for them to exploit so they can further their agenda as well. Read you trickle up eceonomist further up on this thread that belives the poor will put money in his pocket. Fact of the matter is that money floats to the top and stays there.

Going after illegals is just fighting for the crumbs that fall off the table.