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Tue May-16-06 06:51 PM
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| 62. Please, he wasn't using it in a racial way |
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unless sticky situations are racial. Hugging the tar baby is like getting yourself stuck in an impossible situation and you can't get out. Tony Snow is probably racist, but not because of this. Remember when Adlai Stevenson used the word niggardly, and people thought it was racial? from dictionary.com 1 entry found for tar baby. tar baby n. A situation or problem from which it is virtually impossible to disentangle oneself.
2 entries found for niggardly.
nig·gard·ly Audio pronunciation of "niggardly" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ngrd-l)
adj.
1. Grudging and petty in giving or spending.
2. Meanly small; scanty or meager: left the waiter a niggardly tip.
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| -Tony Snow uses racial slur on first full press conference day. |
onehandle |
May-16-06 04:15 PM |
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I always thought of tar baby as an impossible situation, not racial slur |
MichiganVote |
May-16-06 04:18 PM |
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Here------> |
onehandle |
May-16-06 04:26 PM |
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Oops, wrong place n/t |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-16-06 04:42 PM |
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There are over 2500 words listed there!!! |
Nederland |
May-17-06 10:43 AM |
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Me, too, |
mycritters2 |
May-16-06 04:28 PM |
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Nope Tar Baby meant an afro-american child as late as the 1970's. |
mrcheerful |
May-16-06 04:30 PM |
#13 |
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Go into a meeting and throw around the term "tar baby". |
onehandle |
May-16-06 04:35 PM |
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But I have used the word around my african american friends and |
MichiganVote |
May-16-06 05:29 PM |
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I am amazed ~ unless they are under the age of 40 years old |
goclark |
May-17-06 10:27 AM |
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I'm not interested in PC, just civilized discourse... |
MichiganVote |
May-17-06 04:06 PM |
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It is not civilized discourse to be unaware of the feelings of others |
goclark |
May-17-06 04:29 PM |
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You know, you are completely out of line...good luck |
MichiganVote |
May-17-06 04:42 PM |
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Where do you live? West Michigan? |
slampoet |
May-17-06 10:51 AM |
#89 |
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My friends are honest with me as am I with them. |
MichiganVote |
May-17-06 04:04 PM |
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They use terms like |
igil |
May-16-06 08:48 PM |
#69 |
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Definitely, I'm 36 years old and I knew it as a racial slur |
ihelpu2see |
May-16-06 10:24 PM |
#74 |
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you're wrong on that one |
Tunkamerica |
May-16-06 05:05 PM |
#39 |
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Sorry, you're wrong |
ProudDad |
May-16-06 11:06 PM |
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You have the cart before the horse, it seems. |
igil |
May-16-06 05:07 PM |
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Thank you. This has been my understanding of the usage also. |
MichiganVote |
May-16-06 05:31 PM |
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Informative post, thanks n/t |
Steve_DeShazer |
May-16-06 06:09 PM |
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Perhaps that accounts for regional differences |
MichiganVote |
May-16-06 05:27 PM |
#46 |
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I've never heard it used OTHER than as a racial slur |
MaineDem |
May-16-06 05:53 PM |
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Same here. |
Hepburn |
May-16-06 08:18 PM |
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Well, then you listen to ignoramuses. It's a literary reference. |
Bucky |
May-17-06 12:28 AM |
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Well, Bucky, I think "listening to ignoramuses" is a little harsh |
MaineDem |
May-17-06 10:01 AM |
#80 |
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It's obvious he wasn't using it as a racial slur |
cmkramer |
May-17-06 10:11 AM |
#81 |
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Ditto. These people aren't too bright are they? |
48percenter |
May-17-06 04:26 PM |
#100 |
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Don't blame him. I am sure nobody was ever fired from Faux for using it. |
MidwestTransplant |
May-16-06 04:18 PM |
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Ya can count on that. |
Supersedeas |
May-17-06 09:57 AM |
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I thought he was brought in as . . . |
MrModerate |
May-16-06 04:18 PM |
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Yup. This yutz is a putz. |
Infomaniac |
May-16-06 07:01 PM |
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There is no rational reason that phrase should be used. |
KyndCulture |
May-16-06 04:20 PM |
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It's a weird, odd usage |
warrens |
May-16-06 04:57 PM |
#36 |
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thank the goddess somebody else sees that. |
KyndCulture |
May-16-06 05:27 PM |
#45 |
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I think it was an apt usage |
Geoff R. Casavant |
May-16-06 05:32 PM |
#49 |
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"hug the tar baby" is odd usage, though |
fishwax |
May-16-06 05:38 PM |
#50 |
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odd but not unknown. and apparently Snow's usage of choice |
onenote |
May-16-06 05:59 PM |
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Or tar pit. |
Infomaniac |
May-16-06 06:57 PM |
#63 |
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So, other than that, he had nothing else worth mentioning? |
Kurovski |
May-16-06 04:20 PM |
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Give me a freakin' break - Snow used the term in the correct context |
GregW |
May-16-06 04:21 PM |
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Here's why it was a stupid thing to say |
Bucky |
May-17-06 12:35 AM |
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I do not agree. |
rodeodance |
May-16-06 04:21 PM |
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Either do I. |
fooj |
May-16-06 04:25 PM |
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That's a racial slur? |
DoubleDigitIQ |
May-16-06 04:26 PM |
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numerous opponents of Iraq war revealed as racists |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:26 PM |
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You can put up a thousand links. |
cat_girl25 |
May-16-06 04:33 PM |
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well then, let's be even handed and jump on them all |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:35 PM |
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I don't jump on anyone. |
cat_girl25 |
May-16-06 04:57 PM |
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Wow, aren't YOU a buzzkill! LOL!!!! nt |
Inland |
May-16-06 04:37 PM |
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Again: Go into a meeting and throw around the term "tar baby". |
onehandle |
May-16-06 04:49 PM |
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okay, so its alright for liberals, and news persons, and congresspersons |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:52 PM |
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I have and I still have a job |
Nederland |
May-17-06 10:36 AM |
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Very Nice |
Nederland |
May-17-06 10:34 AM |
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Because nobody thinks Snow was actually making a slur, I pronounce BS |
Inland |
May-16-06 04:34 PM |
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He should have known better. |
onehandle |
May-16-06 04:36 PM |
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Oh, this sort of hyperventilation only makes DU, not Snow, look bad. |
Inland |
May-16-06 04:40 PM |
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nah, its all about games |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:37 PM |
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Yeah, but the attack on Hillary made some sense, in that it was |
Inland |
May-16-06 04:54 PM |
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exactly |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:56 PM |
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Obviously not. |
acmejack |
May-16-06 04:38 PM |
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Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby |
William Seger |
May-16-06 04:35 PM |
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That's where I know it from |
mycritters2 |
May-16-06 04:57 PM |
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Indeed they did! |
acmejack |
May-16-06 04:36 PM |
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Snow, just a chip off his old boss: |
partylessinOhio |
May-16-06 04:38 PM |
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Shows how tone-deaf to racism Snow and his ilk are |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-16-06 04:44 PM |
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so huffington and kunstler (among others) are all tone deaf racists? |
onenote |
May-16-06 04:47 PM |
#28 |
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Maybe, maybe not. |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-16-06 05:00 PM |
#37 |
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Thank you for your wisdom and understanding |
goclark |
May-17-06 10:20 AM |
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Well... |
William Seger |
May-16-06 05:03 PM |
#38 |
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same here in nc n/t |
Tunkamerica |
May-16-06 05:09 PM |
#41 |
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Eh... maybe you're right |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-16-06 06:31 PM |
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the term IS a racial slur. |
quantessd |
May-16-06 04:50 PM |
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No problem. |
igil |
May-16-06 05:11 PM |
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Good grief! Nobody here's read "Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby?" |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 05:16 PM |
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THIS is the story of Brer Rabbit and TarBaby and where term comes from |
Jacobin |
May-16-06 05:25 PM |
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So what? I support freedom of speech. |
Warner2008 |
May-16-06 05:49 PM |
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Oh, for God's sake.... |
choie |
May-16-06 06:01 PM |
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Double dog dare you to use "hug the tar baby" in a sentence, with the same |
mtnester |
May-16-06 06:10 PM |
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The hell? What kind of a dare is that?? |
choie |
May-16-06 06:31 PM |
#59 |
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Name calling is always a good way to deal with any situation or discussion |
mtnester |
May-16-06 09:08 PM |
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I grew up in a steel town in the mid-West and... |
Hepburn |
May-16-06 08:23 PM |
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Huckleberry Finn used the "N word" but that doesn't mean it is ok |
yellowcanine |
May-17-06 10:30 AM |
#85 |
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i find it offensive when it`s aimed at black children |
madrchsod |
May-16-06 06:10 PM |
#56 |
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Meh |
bonemachine |
May-16-06 06:42 PM |
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I was raised in the Old South, |
bvar22 |
May-16-06 06:50 PM |
#61 |
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Please, he wasn't using it in a racial way |
IronLionZion |
May-16-06 06:51 PM |
#62 |
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This is an odd one, alright. |
tinfoilinfor2005 |
May-16-06 08:14 PM |
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OK |
IronLionZion |
May-16-06 09:04 PM |
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And I'm willing to give even Mr. Snow the benefit of the doubt. |
tinfoilinfor2005 |
May-16-06 09:55 PM |
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YUCK. |
BlueIris |
May-16-06 08:17 PM |
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Snow is the gift who keeps on giving |
electron_blue |
May-16-06 09:08 PM |
#71 |
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Telling...and hilarious.... |
MrBenchley |
May-17-06 06:23 AM |
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It is from Uncle Remus but it does have racist overtones as well. So a |
yellowcanine |
May-17-06 10:18 AM |
#82 |
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I gave up the use of that phrase a long time ago .. |
votesomemore |
May-17-06 11:00 AM |
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I hate the lying POS, but this is not an ethnic slur |
leftofthedial |
May-17-06 11:12 AM |
#91 |
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It's both. |
onehandle |
May-17-06 01:14 PM |
#92 |
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so if he said, "call a spade a spade" |
leftofthedial |
May-17-06 01:19 PM |
#93 |
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This is the Press Secretary of the White House. |
onehandle |
May-17-06 01:23 PM |
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I'm sure there will be lies and gaffes aplenty |
leftofthedial |
May-17-06 01:38 PM |
#97 |
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Just because many don't use it as a racial slur |
Radio_Guy |
May-17-06 01:27 PM |
#95 |
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which is why context matters |
onenote |
May-17-06 01:36 PM |
#96 |
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I only knew the Michelle Shocked reference |
app_farmer_rb |
May-17-06 05:10 PM |
#103 |
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