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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #38
58. Eh... maybe you're right
I probably shouldn't extrapolate GA to the whole South. GA is the home of Joel Chandler Harris -- I remember visiting the Wren's Nest as a kid -- so maybe his expression would be more likely to picked up and turned into a slur than elsewhere.

Still... it is a slur, and Tony Snow is a press secretary. Makes his living on words and their meanings, all their meanings, and is supposed to be responsible for what he says. As if anyone in the administration acted responsible for anything they do wrong.
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  -Tony Snow uses racial slur on first full press conference day. onehandle  May-16-06 04:15 PM   #0 
  - I always thought of tar baby as an impossible situation, not racial slur  MichiganVote   May-16-06 04:18 PM   #1 
  - Here------>  onehandle   May-16-06 04:26 PM   #9 
  - Oops, wrong place n/t  Jai4WKC08   May-16-06 04:42 PM   #26 
  - There are over 2500 words listed there!!!  Nederland   May-17-06 10:43 AM   #88 
  - Me, too,  mycritters2   May-16-06 04:28 PM   #12 
  - Nope Tar Baby meant an afro-american child as late as the 1970's.  mrcheerful   May-16-06 04:30 PM   #13 
  - Go into a meeting and throw around the term "tar baby".  onehandle   May-16-06 04:35 PM   #16 
  - But I have used the word around my african american friends and  MichiganVote   May-16-06 05:29 PM   #47 
  - I am amazed ~ unless they are under the age of 40 years old  goclark   May-17-06 10:27 AM   #84 
  - I'm not interested in PC, just civilized discourse...  MichiganVote   May-17-06 04:06 PM   #99 
     - It is not civilized discourse to be unaware of the feelings of others  goclark   May-17-06 04:29 PM   #101 
        - You know, you are completely out of line...good luck  MichiganVote   May-17-06 04:42 PM   #102 
  - Where do you live? West Michigan?  slampoet   May-17-06 10:51 AM   #89 
     - My friends are honest with me as am I with them.  MichiganVote   May-17-06 04:04 PM   #98 
  - They use terms like  igil   May-16-06 08:48 PM   #69 
  - Definitely, I'm 36 years old and I knew it as a racial slur  ihelpu2see   May-16-06 10:24 PM   #74 
  - you're wrong on that one  Tunkamerica   May-16-06 05:05 PM   #39 
  - Sorry, you're wrong  ProudDad   May-16-06 11:06 PM   #75 
  - You have the cart before the horse, it seems.  igil   May-16-06 05:07 PM   #40 
  - Thank you. This has been my understanding of the usage also.  MichiganVote   May-16-06 05:31 PM   #48 
  - Informative post, thanks n/t  Steve_DeShazer   May-16-06 06:09 PM   #55 
  - Perhaps that accounts for regional differences  MichiganVote   May-16-06 05:27 PM   #46 
  - I've never heard it used OTHER than as a racial slur  MaineDem   May-16-06 05:53 PM   #52 
     - Same here.  Hepburn   May-16-06 08:18 PM   #67 
     - Well, then you listen to ignoramuses. It's a literary reference.  Bucky   May-17-06 12:28 AM   #76 
     - Well, Bucky, I think "listening to ignoramuses" is a little harsh  MaineDem   May-17-06 10:01 AM   #80 
     - It's obvious he wasn't using it as a racial slur  cmkramer   May-17-06 10:11 AM   #81 
     - Ditto. These people aren't too bright are they?  48percenter   May-17-06 04:26 PM   #100 
  - Don't blame him. I am sure nobody was ever fired from Faux for using it.  MidwestTransplant   May-16-06 04:18 PM   #2 
  - Ya can count on that.  Supersedeas   May-17-06 09:57 AM   #79 
  - I thought he was brought in as . . .  MrModerate   May-16-06 04:18 PM   #3 
  - Yup. This yutz is a putz.  Infomaniac   May-16-06 07:01 PM   #64 
  - There is no rational reason that phrase should be used.  KyndCulture   May-16-06 04:20 PM   #4 
  - It's a weird, odd usage  warrens   May-16-06 04:57 PM   #36 
  - thank the goddess somebody else sees that.  KyndCulture   May-16-06 05:27 PM   #45 
  - I think it was an apt usage  Geoff R. Casavant   May-16-06 05:32 PM   #49 
     - "hug the tar baby" is odd usage, though  fishwax   May-16-06 05:38 PM   #50 
        - odd but not unknown. and apparently Snow's usage of choice  onenote   May-16-06 05:59 PM   #53 
  - Or tar pit.  Infomaniac   May-16-06 06:57 PM   #63 
  - So, other than that, he had nothing else worth mentioning?  Kurovski   May-16-06 04:20 PM   #5 
  - Give me a freakin' break - Snow used the term in the correct context  GregW   May-16-06 04:21 PM   #6 
  - Here's why it was a stupid thing to say  Bucky   May-17-06 12:35 AM   #77 
  - I do not agree.  rodeodance   May-16-06 04:21 PM   #7 
  - Either do I.  fooj   May-16-06 04:25 PM   #8 
  - That's a racial slur?  DoubleDigitIQ   May-16-06 04:26 PM   #10 
  - numerous opponents of Iraq war revealed as racists  onenote   May-16-06 04:26 PM   #11 
  - You can put up a thousand links.  cat_girl25   May-16-06 04:33 PM   #14 
  - well then, let's be even handed and jump on them all  onenote   May-16-06 04:35 PM   #17 
     - I don't jump on anyone.  cat_girl25   May-16-06 04:57 PM   #35 
  - Wow, aren't YOU a buzzkill! LOL!!!! nt  Inland   May-16-06 04:37 PM   #22 
  - Again: Go into a meeting and throw around the term "tar baby".  onehandle   May-16-06 04:49 PM   #29 
  - okay, so its alright for liberals, and news persons, and congresspersons  onenote   May-16-06 04:52 PM   #31 
  - I have and I still have a job  Nederland   May-17-06 10:36 AM   #87 
  - Very Nice  Nederland   May-17-06 10:34 AM   #86 
  - Because nobody thinks Snow was actually making a slur, I pronounce BS  Inland   May-16-06 04:34 PM   #15 
  - He should have known better.  onehandle   May-16-06 04:36 PM   #20 
  - Oh, this sort of hyperventilation only makes DU, not Snow, look bad.  Inland   May-16-06 04:40 PM   #25 
  - nah, its all about games  onenote   May-16-06 04:37 PM   #21 
  - Yeah, but the attack on Hillary made some sense, in that it was  Inland   May-16-06 04:54 PM   #32 
     - exactly  onenote   May-16-06 04:56 PM   #33 
  - Obviously not.  acmejack   May-16-06 04:38 PM   #24 
  - Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby  William Seger   May-16-06 04:35 PM   #18 
  - That's where I know it from  mycritters2   May-16-06 04:57 PM   #34 
  - Indeed they did!  acmejack   May-16-06 04:36 PM   #19 
  - Snow, just a chip off his old boss:  partylessinOhio   May-16-06 04:38 PM   #23 
  - Shows how tone-deaf to racism Snow and his ilk are  Jai4WKC08   May-16-06 04:44 PM   #27 
  - so huffington and kunstler (among others) are all tone deaf racists?  onenote   May-16-06 04:47 PM   #28 
  - Maybe, maybe not.  Jai4WKC08   May-16-06 05:00 PM   #37 
     - Thank you for your wisdom and understanding  goclark   May-17-06 10:20 AM   #83 
  - Well...  William Seger   May-16-06 05:03 PM   #38 
     - same here in nc n/t  Tunkamerica   May-16-06 05:09 PM   #41 
     - Eh... maybe you're right  Jai4WKC08   May-16-06 06:31 PM   #58 
  - the term IS a racial slur.  quantessd   May-16-06 04:50 PM   #30 
  - No problem.  igil   May-16-06 05:11 PM   #42 
  - Good grief! Nobody here's read "Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby?"  Jacobin   May-16-06 05:16 PM   #43 
  - THIS is the story of Brer Rabbit and TarBaby and where term comes from  Jacobin   May-16-06 05:25 PM   #44 
  - So what? I support freedom of speech.  Warner2008   May-16-06 05:49 PM   #51 
  - Oh, for God's sake....  choie   May-16-06 06:01 PM   #54 
  - Double dog dare you to use "hug the tar baby" in a sentence, with the same  mtnester   May-16-06 06:10 PM   #57 
  - The hell? What kind of a dare is that??  choie   May-16-06 06:31 PM   #59 
  - Name calling is always a good way to deal with any situation or discussion  mtnester   May-16-06 09:08 PM   #72 
  - I grew up in a steel town in the mid-West and...  Hepburn   May-16-06 08:23 PM   #68 
  - Huckleberry Finn used the "N word" but that doesn't mean it is ok  yellowcanine   May-17-06 10:30 AM   #85 
  - i find it offensive when it`s aimed at black children  madrchsod   May-16-06 06:10 PM   #56 
  - Meh  bonemachine   May-16-06 06:42 PM   #60 
  - I was raised in the Old South,  bvar22   May-16-06 06:50 PM   #61 
  - Please, he wasn't using it in a racial way  IronLionZion   May-16-06 06:51 PM   #62 
  - This is an odd one, alright.  tinfoilinfor2005   May-16-06 08:14 PM   #65 
     - OK  IronLionZion   May-16-06 09:04 PM   #70 
        - And I'm willing to give even Mr. Snow the benefit of the doubt.  tinfoilinfor2005   May-16-06 09:55 PM   #73 
  - YUCK.  BlueIris   May-16-06 08:17 PM   #66 
  - Snow is the gift who keeps on giving  electron_blue   May-16-06 09:08 PM   #71 
  - Telling...and hilarious....  MrBenchley   May-17-06 06:23 AM   #78 
  - It is from Uncle Remus but it does have racist overtones as well. So a  yellowcanine   May-17-06 10:18 AM   #82 
  - I gave up the use of that phrase a long time ago ..  votesomemore   May-17-06 11:00 AM   #90 
  - I hate the lying POS, but this is not an ethnic slur  leftofthedial   May-17-06 11:12 AM   #91 
  - It's both.  onehandle   May-17-06 01:14 PM   #92 
     - so if he said, "call a spade a spade"  leftofthedial   May-17-06 01:19 PM   #93 
        - This is the Press Secretary of the White House.  onehandle   May-17-06 01:23 PM   #94 
           - I'm sure there will be lies and gaffes aplenty  leftofthedial   May-17-06 01:38 PM   #97 
  - Just because many don't use it as a racial slur  Radio_Guy   May-17-06 01:27 PM   #95 
  - which is why context matters  onenote   May-17-06 01:36 PM   #96 
  - I only knew the Michelle Shocked reference  app_farmer_rb   May-17-06 05:10 PM   #103 
 

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