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Tue May-09-06 01:56 PM
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| 131. Who do you think the articulate Dem. candidates are? |
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have you ever listened to General Clark?
Really listened?
The 08 campaign will be determined by the same gang who determined the last campaign...the MSM and bunch of jumped up Washington insiders who could give a shit what happens to this country as long as they've got theirs.
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| -Anecdotal Evidence Why Wes Clark '08 |
xkenx |
May-07-06 02:47 PM |
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And I totally agree. |
acmavm |
May-07-06 03:04 PM |
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Wes is the one. |
democrank |
May-07-06 03:07 PM |
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I'm with you all the way... |
Totally Committed |
May-07-06 03:43 PM |
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Same here. |
high density |
May-07-06 05:20 PM |
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If GORE doesn't run, I'll wholeheartedly support Wes Clark |
AtomicKitten |
May-07-06 03:44 PM |
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Yes, Wes has developed a political savvy, while |
xkenx |
May-07-06 03:57 PM |
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So, he likes that Clark is aligned with Kerry on all those same liberal |
blm |
May-07-06 03:53 PM |
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Well, at least Clark didn't vote "yes" on the IWR. |
AtomicKitten |
May-07-06 04:02 PM |
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That's not the point is it? The point is that Kerry was too liberal on |
blm |
May-07-06 04:07 PM |
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of course * and his regime are to blame |
AtomicKitten |
May-07-06 04:13 PM |
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What about the stink of ANY war of the last 35 yrs that has been proven |
blm |
May-07-06 04:17 PM |
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No, they didn't. |
AtomicKitten |
May-07-06 04:28 PM |
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I spent almost 20yrs in California and heard alot of horror stories from |
blm |
May-07-06 04:48 PM |
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As I said down-thread... |
Totally Committed |
May-07-06 05:48 PM |
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Yeah - the people who hated Kerry for exposing St. Ronnie Reagan and Bush1 |
blm |
May-08-06 10:20 AM |
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They have no facts, but it doesn't matter |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 12:19 PM |
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Breaking: Red-neck conservatives will listen to a liberal General. nt |
Clarkie1 |
May-07-06 10:24 PM |
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Gore voted for the first Persian Gulf war |
wyldwolf |
May-08-06 06:58 AM |
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In fairness to Gore |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 10:21 AM |
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Sure, in fairness to Gore, who I support... |
wyldwolf |
May-08-06 05:53 PM |
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How can you say that the IWR wasn't an authorization for War? when |
FrenchieCat |
May-09-06 10:57 AM |
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it was an authorization under specific circumstances |
paulk |
May-09-06 05:32 PM |
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thank you. |
wyldwolf |
May-09-06 06:55 PM |
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I'm sorry....but I read the resolution..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-09-06 08:34 PM |
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the full title of the IWR is - "a joint resolution to authorize the use |
paulk |
May-10-06 12:42 PM |
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EXACTLY - and those who blame the IWR are HELPING Bush to cover up |
blm |
May-10-06 12:49 PM |
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That was my point. |
xkenx |
May-07-06 04:06 PM |
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YOU'RE not going to point to them that Clark is progressive, but the RNC |
blm |
May-07-06 04:09 PM |
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Clark's uniform is the teflon coat |
xkenx |
May-07-06 04:17 PM |
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I hope Clark's campaign doesn't operate under that level of naivete. |
blm |
May-07-06 04:22 PM |
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Name removed |
May-07-06 11:43 PM |
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So you disagree that media bestows Teflon? Then Clark won't NEED anyone |
blm |
May-08-06 11:00 AM |
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Teflon, to whatever extent present, is not bullet proof |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-08-06 11:14 AM |
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See - you get the point I make - DNC expected Silver and Bronze Stars and |
blm |
May-08-06 11:26 AM |
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Don't you see that that was exactly what people |
karynnj |
May-07-06 04:49 PM |
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There is a difference between Clark and Kerry's uniform..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 05:37 PM |
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That's not the point |
karynnj |
May-07-06 06:00 PM |
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As you know, there is more to a candidate than their experience.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 07:28 PM |
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I think it did help Kerry to win NH |
karynnj |
May-07-06 08:24 PM |
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2004 was a truncated primary..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 08:26 PM |
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Will someone please explain to me why these pro-Clark threads |
Totally Committed |
May-07-06 05:44 PM |
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Read the OP - it says Clark, not Kerry |
karynnj |
May-07-06 06:08 PM |
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Well, point taken.... |
Totally Committed |
May-07-06 06:19 PM |
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I live in a county where a large number |
karynnj |
May-07-06 06:28 PM |
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Repubs in blue states... |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-07-06 11:42 PM |
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The OP used Kerry as the foil - as usual. As if all the Dems needed was |
blm |
May-08-06 10:24 AM |
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My OP was reporting a statement of a friend, |
xkenx |
May-08-06 11:07 AM |
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What the public LEARNS about a candidate comes 95% from corporate media. |
blm |
May-08-06 11:16 AM |
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I am NOT naive about Rethugs and corporate media. |
xkenx |
May-08-06 11:24 AM |
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That would be nice - But I expect the fight will come from the pacs now |
blm |
May-08-06 11:35 AM |
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I don't see anyone here |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 12:01 PM |
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In what way? Was Clark not a man who rooted out corruption in the military |
blm |
May-08-06 12:50 PM |
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Care to elaborate? |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 01:30 PM |
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You said their backstories are so different - I replied, In what way? |
blm |
May-08-06 01:42 PM |
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In reality their choices and values have much in common |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-08-06 01:53 PM |
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Nothing so different that CAN'T be spun is my basic point. |
blm |
May-08-06 02:09 PM |
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What Tom said, and this... |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 02:33 PM |
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The biggest advantage is the tactic itself being OVERLOADED on Kerry in |
blm |
May-08-06 02:37 PM |
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I have my fingers crossed |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 03:22 PM |
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Not a "foil", a "standard"... |
Totally Committed |
May-08-06 06:20 PM |
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My son, the Republican, |
Totally Committed |
May-07-06 05:40 PM |
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Given his MOTHER's oft posted opinion of Kerry, |
karynnj |
May-07-06 06:21 PM |
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Actually, we in this house always loved Kerry -- me, especially... |
Totally Committed |
May-08-06 02:10 PM |
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It IS more - Your son APPROVED of Reagan-Bush1 policies that Kerry fought |
blm |
May-08-06 10:30 AM |
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He probably doesn't know, but |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-07-06 06:08 PM |
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That was my point in the OP, but |
xkenx |
May-07-06 07:22 PM |
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Of course there is and disconnect. |
Clark2008 |
May-07-06 07:40 PM |
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So, you are very politely saying |
karynnj |
May-07-06 08:33 PM |
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See - you took it the damn wrong way AGAIN |
Clark2008 |
May-07-06 11:41 PM |
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I did NOT take it the wrong way |
karynnj |
May-08-06 06:38 AM |
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Yeah - you did. |
Clark2008 |
May-08-06 11:15 AM |
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Like a lot of people said ... |
Cosmocat |
May-07-06 09:40 PM |
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I think you've hit upon it. Here's my experience. |
xkenx |
May-07-06 10:04 PM |
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Yep ... |
Cosmocat |
May-08-06 06:44 AM |
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It'd be great with me |
union_maid |
May-07-06 04:52 PM |
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A uniform is not everything. |
madfloridian |
May-07-06 06:47 PM |
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You're right....it isn't, |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 07:23 PM |
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Ok, but if this war is not winnable, |
karynnj |
May-07-06 08:06 PM |
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I am careful to not engage in Kerry vs Clark type posts |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-07-06 08:21 PM |
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Tony, look at my first post (17) |
karynnj |
May-07-06 08:43 PM |
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Actually my argument was based on what each had done in real life..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 08:54 PM |
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Do you think the war can be won militarily then? |
karynnj |
May-07-06 09:45 PM |
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Wrong question. What policy will result in the least |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-07-06 10:06 PM |
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No wars can be won militarily |
Donna Zen |
May-07-06 10:54 PM |
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And Wes was instrumental in the negotiation of a peace treaty..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 11:22 PM |
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I don't know if saying we should just leave takes that much courage.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 08:49 PM |
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Kerry is not saying "just leave" |
karynnj |
May-07-06 09:55 PM |
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I know you think that John Kerry deserves a lot of credit for moving |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-06 10:35 PM |
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I disagree...period! |
windbreeze |
May-07-06 08:55 PM |
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Read this DUer from a few months ago. |
xkenx |
May-07-06 10:30 PM |
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Did your friend know all that about Clark. I doubt it., |
Mass |
May-07-06 06:49 PM |
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I agree that's possible, but |
xkenx |
May-07-06 07:26 PM |
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The opinions of the avg repug are not grounded in much truth. |
Quakerfriend |
May-07-06 08:02 PM |
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Factinistas |
Donna Zen |
May-07-06 09:30 PM |
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Here Here xkenx! K & R |
Dinger |
May-07-06 09:49 PM |
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This is all I have to say. |
incapsulated |
May-08-06 12:08 AM |
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Don't forget, Charming...... |
FrenchieCat |
May-08-06 12:59 AM |
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That's all I have to say, too |
WesDem |
May-08-06 08:33 AM |
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Two days ago I was at a Dem gathering |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 06:49 AM |
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When the MSM ignores a good Dem. possibility, |
xkenx |
May-08-06 08:55 AM |
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Indeed but it was |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 10:32 AM |
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Internet and on the ground campaigning are not mutually exclusive |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 12:55 PM |
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You overlook a big demographic |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 01:57 PM |
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I didn't overlook them |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 02:54 PM |
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thank you for the advice |
Donna Zen |
May-08-06 09:35 AM |
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There's a difference |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 10:18 AM |
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Doing my best Cary Grant impersonation... |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 11:07 AM |
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YO, Jai.....I never had gender change surgery......Ken |
xkenx |
May-08-06 11:16 AM |
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Oops! Sorry, Ken |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 12:24 PM |
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By all means then |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 01:54 PM |
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No need to be insulting, or downright untruthful |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 04:11 PM |
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Wow |
JNelson6563 |
May-09-06 08:00 AM |
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Haha! |
CarolNYC |
May-09-06 08:33 AM |
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This is getting silly |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-09-06 09:28 AM |
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Offense? |
Donna Zen |
May-08-06 01:55 PM |
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It's always good advice for Democrats to be active in the Party |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-08-06 10:01 AM |
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Agreed |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 10:28 AM |
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Your map is misleading BUT it proves your point . |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-08-06 11:05 AM |
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Nonsese, I said 4th Cong. District of MI |
JNelson6563 |
May-08-06 01:48 PM |
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Now I think you are being thin skinned |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-08-06 02:12 PM |
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Hmm. Perhaps.... |
JNelson6563 |
May-09-06 06:11 AM |
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I'm so sorry Democrats in your area aren't well-informed |
Clark2008 |
May-08-06 02:30 PM |
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Yesterday at my County executive committee meeting we didn't even discuss |
dogman |
May-08-06 04:30 PM |
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Good point. At my last district meeting |
Jai4WKC08 |
May-08-06 06:00 PM |
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Hey, gee, here's something different.... |
CarolNYC |
May-08-06 10:51 PM |
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Shhh, I think Julie might have given up |
xkenx |
May-09-06 08:34 PM |
#135 |
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I don't think this country can wait until 08 |
mmonk |
May-08-06 09:38 AM |
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Agreed |
WesDem |
May-09-06 09:35 AM |
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Kick for Wes. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
May-08-06 07:15 PM |
#116 |
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The Art of Electoral War |
RogueTrooper |
May-09-06 10:14 AM |
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You have the wrong General |
Texas_Kat |
May-09-06 10:39 AM |
#124 |
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It was meant as an analogy |
RogueTrooper |
May-09-06 10:46 AM |
#125 |
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I understood, and I didn't take it as a negative post. |
Texas_Kat |
May-09-06 11:08 AM |
#127 |
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Current reality strengthens Clark's 08 hand |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-09-06 11:10 AM |
#128 |
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I have to disagree |
RogueTrooper |
May-09-06 11:35 AM |
#129 |
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Here is where we agree |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-09-06 11:56 AM |
#130 |
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Who do you think the articulate Dem. candidates are? |
Donna Zen |
May-09-06 01:56 PM |
#131 |
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Agreed 1000% |
HannibalBarca |
May-09-06 05:45 PM |
#133 |
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