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Thu May-04-06 08:16 AM
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| 46. Depends on how you define an illegal Immigrant... |
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To give an example, that I just saw in Democracy Now! on FSTV, there is a Woman, named Carolina Hernandez, star student who volunteered at the local police department while in high school, got married, she has a 3 year old son, and now she is stuck in Guatamala, a country she doesn't know that well, because of one little thing she didn't even know about, she came into the country illegally while she was 4! A deportation order was issued when she was 12, and she wasn't even aware that she wasn't a CITIZEN until she and some friends were stopped at the Canadian border trying to re-enter the country. Once she found out she was an illegal, she did the right thing, and filed papers to obtain permanent residency, and perhaps citizenship, instead, she was arrested and deported. The thing that is the real kicker is that she is married to a citizen, her child is a citizen, and even her dad is a citizen. The justification for the deportation is that she broke the law, but did she?
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RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 12:11 AM |
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A couple of thoughts for you, my friend. Who the hell have you |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 12:23 AM |
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Never claimed to be an immigrant. Native American |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 12:28 AM |
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Honey, it's your post. Read it again, and get back to me. nt |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 12:33 AM |
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Red you are right. The Illegals are not due any support from liberals. |
Vincardog |
May-04-06 12:39 AM |
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It has nothing to do with being 'pawns' as far as I'm concerned. |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 12:46 AM |
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Sister...I have lived here over 50 years myself..... |
NativeTexan |
May-09-06 04:29 PM |
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Why is immigration suddenly THE CRISIS? |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 05:11 PM |
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In some instances maybe...but keep in mind....immigrants..... |
NativeTexan |
May-09-06 06:43 PM |
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Which of the 9/11 terrorists swam the Rio Grande? |
Bridget Burke |
May-10-06 07:24 AM |
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They didn't have to......now it is the easiest way, but..... |
NativeTexan |
May-10-06 04:35 PM |
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10% of mexico has migrated to the USA, it is a planed invasion by FOX |
sam sarrha |
May-10-06 11:24 PM |
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cough cough - 'Tis big problem |
0007 |
May-10-06 05:05 PM |
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. |
Little Star |
May-04-06 12:28 PM |
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Sweetie.......I read the post 3 times.......and I don't see that. |
BooScout |
May-04-06 08:44 AM |
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Let's talk NAFTA |
revgerry |
May-04-06 12:39 AM |
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Hey, revgerry, you could have many supporters here |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 12:50 AM |
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BIG welcome! |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 01:14 AM |
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Welcome to DU... |
Mythsaje |
May-04-06 01:59 AM |
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Welcome to our forum, Revgerry! |
TheBorealAvenger |
May-04-06 05:15 AM |
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Yes, let's expose so-called "Free Trade" for the scam that it is |
rman |
May-09-06 09:19 AM |
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NAFTA has sucked 26,000,000 jobs out of the US.. created NONE |
sam sarrha |
May-10-06 11:25 PM |
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Apologies to the DU |
RedTail Wolf |
May-11-06 02:19 AM |
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One of the best posts I've seen on this subject |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 10:54 AM |
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Yeah, there's always the union side...But the bigger issue is the felony |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 12:41 AM |
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There's a range of felonies. |
igil |
May-04-06 11:02 AM |
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Okay, a bit off topic, but I've been wondering this... |
mycritters2 |
May-08-06 10:00 PM |
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Most nannies in this country are probably illegal |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 10:57 AM |
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nope...we have a long standing au pair program |
formernaderite |
May-11-06 01:27 PM |
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Just what I thought |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 01:59 PM |
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May-04-06 12:43 AM |
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Uneducated, not sane, racist, YOU ARE WRONG! |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 12:51 AM |
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May-04-06 01:01 AM |
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Gee, thank you. |
Lexingtonian |
May-04-06 01:05 AM |
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May-04-06 01:44 AM |
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Hi RedTail Wolf |
shamrock |
May-04-06 01:59 AM |
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Thank you shamrock! |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 02:15 AM |
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May-04-06 02:49 AM |
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May-04-06 03:15 AM |
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It's true |
Lexingtonian |
May-04-06 03:39 AM |
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Good to hear from people who actually have this |
Little Star |
May-04-06 12:35 PM |
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thanks |
Lexingtonian |
May-10-06 05:08 PM |
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Born in USA descendant from Native Americans |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 12:45 AM |
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Your comment, |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 12:56 AM |
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he's talking about support for illegal immigrants |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 01:02 AM |
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I know what 'he's' talking about, but his reasoning isn't mine. nt |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 01:04 AM |
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fair nuff :) nt |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 01:08 AM |
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We should as Americans |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 01:14 AM |
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Totally. |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 01:19 AM |
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With or without illegal immigrants |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 11:01 AM |
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Slam the huge companies that hire illegals, but don't punish |
babylonsister |
May-04-06 01:25 AM |
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May-04-06 01:59 AM |
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Hate NAFTA, HATE Bush |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 02:38 AM |
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Ignore the people who call you a racist. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
May-04-06 05:02 AM |
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There is an element of it |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-04-06 11:59 AM |
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I reread the OP -- nothing about miscegenation, not even implied. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
May-04-06 04:46 PM |
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I ask a different way |
azurnoir |
May-04-06 01:39 AM |
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Good point...:) n/t |
petersond |
May-05-06 03:29 AM |
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In the northwest |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-09-06 10:17 AM |
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I think that outsourcing does the same.... |
catnhatnh |
May-04-06 12:45 AM |
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That's the REAL issue here. |
lvx35 |
May-04-06 01:10 AM |
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These people want everything handed to them on a platter? |
Erika |
May-04-06 12:57 AM |
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I think the cons want slaves. They want to bring in even more workers... |
norml |
May-04-06 01:13 AM |
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Great post. Thanks. n/t |
Erika |
May-04-06 01:22 AM |
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Sorry this is a democratic issue...and the repukes call it WEDGE |
MsUnderstood |
May-04-06 01:39 AM |
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Blaming illegals for highway debris? |
Mythsaje |
May-04-06 02:07 AM |
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Great post, and agreed...n/t |
petersond |
May-05-06 03:35 AM |
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... and it's working |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-09-06 10:25 AM |
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The best part is, I've heard RWers blame this on the illegals themselves |
ComerPerro |
May-11-06 02:36 PM |
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very quickly... this is what's at issue... |
expatriot |
May-04-06 04:13 AM |
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lowering the standards |
tom_boy |
May-04-06 04:34 AM |
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Then INSIST the 1986 Immigratiion Law is enforced |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-04-06 12:01 PM |
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I think that is a good start. |
tom_boy |
May-04-06 01:32 PM |
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May-04-06 04:42 AM |
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Not racist. ...decent discourse, Is it possible without attacks? |
RedTail Wolf |
May-04-06 05:53 AM |
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And I told you, stop blaming the victim |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-04-06 12:48 PM |
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Well, for one, we don't loose elections, |
RebelOne |
May-04-06 06:18 AM |
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Depends on how you define an illegal Immigrant... |
Solon |
May-04-06 08:16 AM |
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There was just now a caller on C-SPAN concerning this very issue.......... |
Minnesota Libra |
May-04-06 08:47 AM |
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The Repugs have once again managed to get the upper hand on |
OregonBlue |
May-04-06 09:00 AM |
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Can't we just all agree to start fining the employers $50,000 per |
Zorra |
May-04-06 09:03 AM |
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No dem politician is even considering this |
mycritters2 |
May-08-06 10:03 PM |
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Another possibility scenario. . . Direct action against employers |
martymar64 |
May-10-06 02:08 PM |
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I think folks who refer to others as illegal don't understand the law |
goodhue |
May-04-06 11:26 AM |
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Crossing the border after having been deported is a felony. |
mycritters2 |
May-08-06 10:05 PM |
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This is whats in store for us........ |
Little Star |
May-04-06 12:10 PM |
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JOBS - YES ---- CITIZENSHIP - NO!!!!!!! |
APPLE314 |
May-05-06 06:04 AM |
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It is counterproductive to think of complex problems in |
brindis_desala |
May-05-06 07:27 AM |
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JOBS - YES ----- CITIZENSHIP- NO |
APPLE314 |
May-09-06 06:01 AM |
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"Citizenship" is NOT the problem. |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 10:09 AM |
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Work was available? |
foreverdem |
May-09-06 02:23 PM |
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Yes, work was available. |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 02:51 PM |
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Mine lived through the signs |
foreverdem |
May-09-06 05:59 PM |
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For some, this issue exceeds party lines... |
concerned_texan |
May-09-06 08:29 AM |
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Hey--great formatting! |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 10:20 AM |
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Response to Bridget |
concerned_texan |
May-09-06 02:00 PM |
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I've lived in the Houston area for more than 50 years. |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 02:54 PM |
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Response to Bridget |
concerned_texan |
May-09-06 03:09 PM |
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Spanish is not difficult to learn if you want to learn it. |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 04:18 PM |
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Bless your heart |
concerned_texan |
May-09-06 05:00 PM |
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You have my sympathy. |
Bridget Burke |
May-09-06 05:07 PM |
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an important, informative, troubling post. |
JohnWxy |
May-09-06 07:23 PM |
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Do NOT support law breakers (criminals) no matter how much |
BigYawn |
May-09-06 10:39 AM |
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Civil Disobedience is a Lie? |
GymGeekAus |
May-10-06 05:10 PM |
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Civil disobid. is just fine, so long as jail time follows... |
BigYawn |
May-10-06 09:43 PM |
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How much jail time, wise one? |
GymGeekAus |
May-10-06 11:50 PM |
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How much jail time? That's what we pay the judges for...n/t |
BigYawn |
May-11-06 12:11 AM |
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No, that's what we write laws for. |
GymGeekAus |
May-11-06 12:55 AM |
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If laws were that explicit, why are we paying high salaries to judges? |
BigYawn |
May-11-06 04:45 PM |
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I suspect you're a liar, actually. |
GymGeekAus |
May-12-06 01:39 PM |
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Please stop telling me that as a Dem I need to be anti immigrant |
Mountainman |
May-09-06 02:26 PM |
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Excellent post - full of facts and truth! |
AZBlue |
May-09-06 04:06 PM |
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Let me see what truth there is here. My thoughts on them. |
Sapere aude |
May-09-06 04:39 PM |
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I was put off by all the Mexican flags at first. Then I noticed their |
JohnWxy |
May-09-06 06:57 PM |
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Our National Anthem has been translated into several languages. |
Bridget Burke |
May-10-06 08:08 AM |
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The beauty of the United States is in its diversity |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 11:23 AM |
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I see the construction and other jobs taken in my own community, |
Acadia Blue |
May-10-06 05:06 PM |
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Requiring citizenship as a requirement for employment isn't |
laheina |
May-11-06 01:01 AM |
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The folks that pay the low wages and take advantage |
0007 |
May-10-06 05:37 PM |
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Yawn |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 12:46 AM |
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Smack. |
GymGeekAus |
May-11-06 02:00 AM |
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Once I hear a rant about "these new breed of illegals" |
RagingInMiami |
May-11-06 02:07 AM |
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A perfectly valid and valuable observation. |
GymGeekAus |
May-11-06 11:02 AM |
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The main difference being..... |
BigYawn |
May-12-06 12:49 AM |
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Even a bigger yawn |
RagingInMiami |
May-12-06 07:15 AM |
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From "The Moral Physics of Immigration." |
Bridget Burke |
May-12-06 07:33 AM |
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Another whiff by BigYawn. |
GymGeekAus |
May-12-06 01:42 PM |
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Perhaps the answer is |
Virginian |
May-11-06 02:32 PM |
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Perhaps we should enforce the "wage & labor laws of the US"... |
Bridget Burke |
May-12-06 07:35 AM |
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ICE kicked some ass in N. KY Tuesday |
48percenter |
May-11-06 03:04 PM |
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Immigration: Another symptom of the Mixed Economy. |
ggdwill |
May-12-06 07:22 AM |
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Since you obviously don't want to turn off the "massive economy"... |
Bridget Burke |
May-12-06 07:38 AM |
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I didn't say that. |
ggdwill |
May-12-06 07:41 AM |
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Well, you think that the Massive Welfare State &.... |
Bridget Burke |
May-12-06 08:00 AM |
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I propose to make a decision. |
ggdwill |
May-12-06 08:11 AM |
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we are already boith, ya ding ding |
elehhhhna |
May-12-06 08:37 AM |
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I propose we stop wasting our money on war(s). |
Bridget Burke |
May-12-06 01:31 PM |
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yeah I ihate those "silly labor laws" |
elehhhhna |
May-12-06 08:16 AM |
#133 |
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