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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #47
50. "Kabuki theater"?
I'm not sure I follow. I assume you mean the little dance that many politicians do, refusing to say one way or the other about running when it's pretty obvious by the money they're hoarding and the staff they're hiring, they have already made up their minds. If that's a wrong assumption, let me know.

But Clark hasn't done that. He said yesterday he's thinking about running, and he's said before that he wants to. But he has also said that the MOST important thing is to get back the House and/or Senate in 2006 and until/unless that happens, he's not going to make a decision. I happen to believe him. If you look at what he's been doing, every step is devoted to electing Democrats to Congress. His PAC is running on a shoe-string; every dime goes to supporting his travel and other expenses involved in campaigning and fund-raising for other Democrats and local/state parties. He has only about a half-dozen staff or contracted consultants, and none of them the big guns for a campaign of his own. He is advising first-time candidates on the game of politics, dealing with the media, and so forth. And spending a lot of his time working with the elected party leadership to put together plans and positions that congressional candidates can run on.

Now, I realize that travelling around and campaigning for others doesn't hurt him for 2008, and that it's one of the things prospective presidential candidates do. But he seems to be doing a helluva lot more of it than those with a lot more money in the bank, some of whom act like the only Democrats worth supporting reside in Iowa and New Hampshire.
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  -Wes Clark just said he's "thinking about" running again! jenmito  May-01-06 01:10 PM   #0 
  - "You could tell by the tone of his voice he WILL run again."  Totally Committed   May-01-06 01:18 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-05-06 12:00 PM   #94 
  - Run, Wesley, Run!  Robbie Michaels   May-01-06 01:18 PM   #2 
  - Franken is clearly encouraging him to run!  MyPetRock   May-01-06 01:20 PM   #3 
  - i wholeheartedly agree with franken - for me the candidate has to be  faithnotgreed   May-01-06 04:49 PM   #28 
  - IIRC Franken supported Clark in 2004  AndreaCG   May-01-06 07:07 PM   #32 
  - Nope, not true  Jai4WKC08   May-01-06 08:38 PM   #41 
     - Yep, I was always disappointed...  CarolNYC   May-01-06 09:56 PM   #43 
        - Well, Franken said that he thinks  Jai4WKC08   May-02-06 10:51 AM   #48 
           - Franken certainly did seem to be excluding....  CarolNYC   May-02-06 09:38 PM   #82 
  - If Wes doesn't run, my second choice is in your sig line  Clark2008   May-01-06 07:53 PM   #34 
  - I spit out my yogurt  bagimin   May-01-06 01:23 PM   # 
  - Oh Please, Oh Please, Oh Please!!!!!!  Tinksrival   May-01-06 01:23 PM   #4 
  - I look forward to that with a little more enthusiasm than  HereSince1628   May-01-06 01:24 PM   #5 
  - Wes Clark is EVERYTHING George McClellan was not  Jai4WKC08   May-01-06 03:50 PM   #24 
  - General Clark would make a fine vice president for Senator  0007   May-01-06 01:26 PM   #6 
  - Senator Feingold would make a fine vice president  WesDem   May-01-06 01:58 PM   #13 
  - Exactly!  jenmito   May-01-06 02:00 PM   #15 
  - May I 3rd that!  serryjw   May-03-06 07:09 PM   #88 
  - Hear, hear!!  Sparkly   May-01-06 02:06 PM   #18 
  - Feingold/Clark or Clark/Feingold... Can't lose either way. (nt)  ih8thegop   May-01-06 03:06 PM   #23 
  - For the bazillioneth time - Clark can't be Def. Sec.  Clark2008   May-01-06 07:55 PM   #35 
     - 10 years? I thought it was less than that, four to six tops.  Bucky   May-02-06 04:50 PM   #63 
        - Nope it's ten years, but can be waived by Congress  Jai4WKC08   May-03-06 09:20 AM   #85 
           - I agree.....Homeland Security before Sec of Defense....because,  FrenchieCat   May-03-06 02:03 PM   #86 
  - yipppeeeee!!!  shireen   May-01-06 01:31 PM   #7 
  - Against bush's needless reign of terror and with  Pithy Cherub   May-01-06 01:31 PM   #8 
  - Let me know when you get a link!  FrenchieCat   May-01-06 01:32 PM   #9 
  - Here  Tom Rinaldo   May-01-06 01:34 PM   #10 
     - Thanks....listening now!  FrenchieCat   May-01-06 01:39 PM   #11 
     - Which hour?  Clark2008   May-01-06 08:28 PM   #39 
        - He was on at 2pm for about 45 min.! So, the start of the 3rd hour.  jenmito   May-01-06 08:39 PM   #42 
  - Clark totally gets it  LSK   May-01-06 01:44 PM   #12 
  - He sure does...  jenmito   May-01-06 01:59 PM   #14 
  - Clark is brilliant at not pissing off average Republicans while he...  Tom Rinaldo   May-01-06 02:06 PM   #19 
     - Very well put!...  jenmito   May-01-06 02:20 PM   #20 
  - Fox  CarolNYC   May-01-06 10:12 PM   #44 
  - That was a VERY impressive appearance  tishaLA   May-01-06 02:01 PM   #16 
  - This would be the best! He rocks!  imlost   May-01-06 02:04 PM   #17 
  - 100% agree with what you said imlost!  MyPetRock   May-01-06 03:58 PM   #25 
  - Thanks!  imlost   May-01-06 11:25 PM   #45 
  - Consider yourself no longer lost!  Clark2008   May-01-06 07:56 PM   #36 
     - I've been lost since he dropped out. n/t  imlost   May-01-06 11:26 PM   #46 
  - Loved what he said about growing up in the South  Disorganized   May-01-06 03:02 PM   #21 
  - From what I've heard him say, I bet he will.  ih8thegop   May-01-06 03:05 PM   #22 
  - That's the big "no duh"  LittleClarkie   May-01-06 04:03 PM   #26 
  - I think he wants to take another crack at it.  Bleachers7   May-01-06 04:07 PM   #27 
  - That's the beauty of the political process  Tom Rinaldo   May-01-06 06:21 PM   #30 
  - I certainly hope so.  Vidar   May-01-06 04:50 PM   #29 
  - Clark/Feingold would REALLY be cool  wiley   May-01-06 06:42 PM   #31 
  - That's my ticket, wiley  WesDem   May-01-06 07:08 PM   #33 
  - If that's the ticket, I'll feel I've died and gone to Heaven.  Clark2008   May-01-06 07:58 PM   #37 
  - I wonder how Rove will Swiftboat him  TOJ   May-01-06 08:07 PM   #38 
  - They already tried to last time  Tom Rinaldo   May-01-06 08:32 PM   #40 
  - Don't you remember the "He almost started WW3" meme?  Auntie Bush   May-02-06 08:43 PM   #80 
  - Shock!  iconoclastNYC   May-02-06 01:35 AM   #47 
  - Think of WHY they would do this...  jenmito   May-02-06 11:07 AM   #49 
  - "Kabuki theater"?  Jai4WKC08   May-02-06 11:17 AM   #50 
     - Amen to that, Jai  CarolNYC   May-02-06 09:42 PM   #83 
        - Too good maybe...  Jai4WKC08   May-03-06 05:39 PM   #87 
           - Yeah, except for me, they looked like they did have deep pockets...  CarolNYC   May-03-06 08:02 PM   #89 
  - Transcript and audio  Texas_Kat   May-02-06 03:19 PM   #51 
  - The last thing we need is 12 democratic candidates running in 2008...  Placebo   May-02-06 03:23 PM   #52 
  - Wes Clark cannot be Sec. of Def.  Donna Zen   May-02-06 03:29 PM   #53 
  - Who hates the military?  Placebo   May-02-06 03:31 PM   #54 
     - Lots of people  Jai4WKC08   May-02-06 04:42 PM   #62 
  - Hey, I've got a "novel" idea......  FrenchieCat   May-02-06 03:48 PM   #56 
  - Looks like you did a lot for yourself there.  Placebo   May-02-06 04:00 PM   #58 
     - Hardly a long shot  Jai4WKC08   May-02-06 04:55 PM   #64 
  - "Please Wes, don't run. Bite the bullet..."  Totally Committed   May-02-06 03:55 PM   #57 
  - You tell them.  Placebo   May-02-06 04:03 PM   #59 
  - How about we reduce the number of 08 candidates  Texas_Kat   May-02-06 04:09 PM   #61 
  - Those lists exist already. They're called "primary ballots"  Bucky   May-02-06 04:59 PM   #66 
  - Agreed: Democracy is too important to risk it all by giving voters choices  Bucky   May-02-06 04:55 PM   #65 
  - You know, I agree about one thing  Jai4WKC08   May-02-06 05:06 PM   #68 
  - Sorry, I thought the debates were pretty good  karynnj   May-02-06 08:17 PM   #76 
  - The last thing we need is to alienate mainstream voters.  skyblue   May-03-06 10:27 PM   #93 
  - Good News! I hope that Al also jumps in.  David Zephyr   May-02-06 03:39 PM   #55 
  - From listening to the Clarkcasts  Texas_Kat   May-02-06 04:08 PM   #60 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-06 05:00 PM   #67 
  - Put your money where your  LandOLincoln   May-02-06 05:07 PM   #69 
  - Wow.  Sparkly   May-02-06 05:13 PM   #70 
  - Hey, dude(tte), did you mean to "out" yourself in that post....  CarolNYC   May-02-06 06:13 PM   #71 
  - Even using the freeper term for Wes ...."Weasel" or "Weasley"  Rowdyboy   May-02-06 06:36 PM   #72 
  - To coin a phrase  Texas_Kat   May-02-06 07:18 PM   #73 
     - Talk about frustrating!!  Sparkly   May-02-06 07:28 PM   #74 
        - Imaginary links .. Fictional quotes  Texas_Kat   May-02-06 07:34 PM   #75 
        - Yep,  CarolNYC   May-02-06 09:44 PM   #84 
  - Wahoo! I Can't Wait!  Dinger   May-02-06 08:21 PM   #77 
  - That's the best news I've heard since Bush's poll numbers.  Auntie Bush   May-02-06 08:38 PM   #78 
  - I've seen and spoken to Clark at two events recently, and  xkenx   May-02-06 08:40 PM   #79 
  - Oooooh.....  FrenchieCat   May-02-06 08:47 PM   #81 
  - yes! Wes is my #1 pick! (nt)  ima_sinnic   May-03-06 08:23 PM   #90 
  - If he can just win the primaries, our next pres will be President Clark!  mtnsnake   May-03-06 08:31 PM   #91 
     - You got it......which is why the Corporate media kept him off as much  FrenchieCat   May-03-06 08:51 PM   #92 
 

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