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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:33 PM
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5. pure ideology I think
they just have miscontrued their principles so much over the years that they oppose any tax, even a rational one. They reject the concept of a fair tax system as part of their ideology, it freaks them out that wealthy people may have to pay a higher percentage and take a higher burden than someone who is middle class or poor. After a while political aspects, such as a permanent majority etc, have hyped up the idea of "low taxes" so much that for political reasons they knee jerk at the slightest hint of a tax increase, no matter what it is. They are pretty delusional about it too.
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  -Why are most Republicans against the "windfall profits" tax ? kentuck  Apr-24-06 12:26 PM   #0 
  - It may do more to hurt the consumer in the long run  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 12:27 PM   #1 
  - How?  kentuck   Apr-24-06 12:30 PM   #2 
  - Several reasons  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 12:40 PM   #9 
     - I gotta disagree with ya Chico Man.  napi21   Apr-24-06 12:52 PM   #13 
     - Higher energy prices will open up a whole slew of alternative energy  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 01:01 PM   #15 
        - Agreed, but  DUHandle   Apr-24-06 01:19 PM   #19 
     - If they reinvested the money  Jim4Wes   Apr-24-06 01:39 PM   #25 
  - nothing about economics concerns the economic safety of  sui generis   Apr-24-06 12:33 PM   #4 
  - Perhaps the result of higher consumer prices  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 12:47 PM   #11 
     - the result of higher wages is lower employment  sui generis   Apr-24-06 01:20 PM   #20 
        - Is there a solution?  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 01:29 PM   #23 
           - Yes. A windfall profits tax is a deterrant and a short term solution.  sui generis   Apr-24-06 01:48 PM   #29 
              - We're not taking it from the oil companies...  kentuck   Apr-24-06 01:58 PM   #31 
              - I don't own energy stocks  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 04:02 PM   #35 
  - Try thinking of it as a  NCevilDUer   Apr-24-06 12:35 PM   #7 
     - Lets focus on the gouging accusations first  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 12:42 PM   #10 
        - All right.  NCevilDUer   Apr-24-06 01:07 PM   #17 
           - These are prices that are paid for gas already in the pumps...  kentuck   Apr-24-06 01:13 PM   #18 
           - No, it's not a coincidence.  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 01:21 PM   #21 
              - are you in the same reality I am?  sui generis   Apr-24-06 01:27 PM   #22 
              - I don't know about you  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 01:33 PM   #24 
                 - I think you will see prices go down overnight...  kentuck   Apr-24-06 01:55 PM   #30 
                    - Either way, the oil execs will still get paid too much, winfall tax or  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 03:58 PM   #34 
                       - So you would prefer to give the profits to the oil companies...  kentuck   Apr-24-06 04:08 PM   #36 
                          - I don't think it is a good idea to penalize investors for taking risks  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 04:47 PM   #37 
                             - Yes. Monopolies are such a risk...  kentuck   Apr-24-06 05:00 PM   #38 
                                - Paying more money compared to whom?  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 05:29 PM   #39 
                                   - The "world oil markets" ?  kentuck   Apr-24-06 05:40 PM   #40 
                                      - The problem is the price of crude is on its way up for good  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 05:53 PM   #42 
                                         - I think we will have to find some alternatives but....  kentuck   Apr-24-06 06:29 PM   #44 
                                            - I completely agree  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 06:40 PM   #45 
              - Well, I can't disagree with any of that.  NCevilDUer   Apr-24-06 01:41 PM   #26 
                 - Now that's more like it  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 01:44 PM   #28 
  - They're watching the money roll in, of course  Warpy   Apr-24-06 12:31 PM   #3 
  - yup, that doesn't hurt either  Wetzelbill   Apr-24-06 12:35 PM   #6 
  - pure ideology I think  Wetzelbill   Apr-24-06 12:33 PM   #5 
  - It is the very essence of capitalism  DBoon   Apr-24-06 12:37 PM   #8 
  - The same reason the Republicans are against any tax....  Bridget Burke   Apr-24-06 12:50 PM   #12 
  - In a sense it's really kind of gutless.  Sentinel Chicken   Apr-24-06 12:55 PM   #14 
  - Tax bad  underpants   Apr-24-06 01:05 PM   #16 
  - A point to remember is that the oil companies shut down refineries..  kentuck   Apr-24-06 01:42 PM   #27 
  - Why single out the oil companies?  Jacobin   Apr-24-06 02:10 PM   #32 
  - Why not just call it a progressive tax ?  kentuck   Apr-24-06 02:15 PM   #33 
  - Any Democrat who cares about this country is against a windfall tax.  Walt Disney   Apr-24-06 05:51 PM   #41 
  - Are you sure you know what a windfall profit is?  Jim4Wes   Apr-24-06 06:16 PM   #43 
  - Like when you invest in real estate and the price appreciates rapidly  Chico Man   Apr-24-06 08:03 PM   #46 
  - You paint an interesting picture  Jim4Wes   Apr-24-06 08:07 PM   #47 
  - The thing is, the gouging is not at the pump.  NCevilDUer   Apr-25-06 09:14 AM   #49 
  - Its not just the wars  Chico Man   Apr-25-06 10:20 AM   #51 
     - Someone on C-SPAN this AM was blaming it on the Energy Bill....  kentuck   Apr-25-06 12:27 PM   #52 
        - Yes that is part of it  Chico Man   Apr-25-06 12:32 PM   #53 
  - two factors are being overlooked here  brindis_desala   Apr-25-06 09:23 AM   #50 
  - Yes, and I know what a windfall profit tax is as well.  Walt Disney   Apr-25-06 03:11 PM   #56 
  - ha haha hahahahaaha  sui generis   Apr-25-06 08:35 AM   #48 
     - Well, I suppose I could have said "any Republican who cares..."  Walt Disney   Apr-25-06 03:10 PM   #55 
  - It has the letters T-A-X in it.  McCamy Taylor   Apr-25-06 12:39 PM   #54 

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