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Wed Mar-29-06 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #23 |
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Who needs 'em and why would you base your positions on them? 
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| -Cowering Dems - Only 3 Senators' names are on Feingold's resolution. |
paineinthearse |
Mar-29-06 03:54 PM |
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We know what to do! Time to make some more calls, DUers! |
fooj |
Mar-29-06 03:56 PM |
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WRONG - demanding censure vote now is SIDING with GOPs. |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:14 PM |
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I don't think everyone is demanding |
guidod |
Mar-29-06 05:53 PM |
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Caving in to demand for quickvote by GOPs and bypassing investigation by |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:04 PM |
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so it's been moved to committee... that happend already.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:07 PM |
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Dems wanting to stop committee and investigation and side with GOPs |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:12 PM |
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I think that was to show who was willing to Censure Clinton but is AWOL on |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:35 PM |
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Willing to censure Clinton INSTEAD OF impeaching him. If you AREN'T on |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:41 PM |
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If we give up on censure, will we still even be opposing the GOP at all? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-30-06 02:42 PM |
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exatly so.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:51 PM |
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Who is giving up on censure? The committee investigation is FOR censure. |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:19 PM |
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Never mind, I guess I don't understand what those who oppose Feingold |
Ken Burch |
Mar-30-06 07:37 PM |
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Calling for left blogs to stop harrassing senators supporting Feingold's |
blm |
Mar-31-06 08:45 AM |
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when does siding with censure = quick vote? |
dionysus |
Mar-30-06 10:29 PM |
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READ and understand - we are FOR CENSURE and the moment Feingold |
blm |
Mar-31-06 09:21 AM |
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LOL.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:06 PM |
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I understand that the word trength |
guidod |
Mar-29-06 06:17 PM |
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I don't think everyone is demanding |
guidod |
Mar-29-06 05:53 PM |
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Woops! Hit the button twice, sorry |
guidod |
Mar-29-06 05:55 PM |
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Drinkin Arlen Specter/Joe Biden Cool aid - It's called another Cover Up |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:04 PM |
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Either you side w/Feingold and furthering censure debate or side w/GOP |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:09 PM |
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My apologies.. i'm frustrated. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:38 PM |
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WRONG - Hearings are set for Friday and John Dean and Bruce Fein are |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:49 PM |
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I stand Corrected! Good More Testimony! |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 07:05 PM |
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Why are you spreading that BOGUS list of Dems who wanted censure INSTEAD |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:00 PM |
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I wholeheartedly agree it is much better strategy. |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-29-06 04:04 PM |
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Feinstein tried to bring up censure resolution again right after acquittal |
flpoljunkie |
Mar-29-06 04:06 PM |
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Okay, I'm convinced. Feingold is an ass. |
MH1 |
Mar-29-06 05:08 PM |
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I Hope you mean FeinSTEIN (a DINO), NOT FeinGOLD... |
BlueCaliDem04 |
Mar-30-06 02:26 AM |
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Feingold WAS a senator in the Clinton years |
Mass |
Mar-30-06 07:10 AM |
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Haven't been into politics until *after* the 2000 Debacle. But... |
BlueCaliDem04 |
Mar-31-06 02:05 AM |
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I meant FeinGOLD. Please read my post. |
MH1 |
Mar-30-06 08:43 AM |
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Feingold did NOT support the Clinton censure. |
incapsulated |
Apr-01-06 01:39 AM |
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Disappointed in Levin, Stabenow from Michigan |
faygokid |
Mar-29-06 04:01 PM |
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Their constituency is not a monolith composed of DUers and like-minded. |
MH1 |
Mar-29-06 05:14 PM |
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I think it's the right thing to do. |
faygokid |
Mar-29-06 05:19 PM |
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We're all for censure - and FOR Feingold moving it into committee |
blm |
Mar-29-06 05:30 PM |
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oops... self delete duplicate |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:11 PM |
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Wrong - Feingold had said it was set for Friday. |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:13 PM |
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BLM it was moved to committee two weeks ago, the moment Feingold |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:12 PM |
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You may be right (or not), but in any case it is beside my point. |
MH1 |
Mar-29-06 05:33 PM |
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Censure Could have Meaningful Consequence, but Not with These Dems |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:22 PM |
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I'm FOR censure but know it has no meaningful consequence and |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:33 PM |
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do you actually believe impeachment investigations and hearings |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:41 PM |
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I trust that Conyers and others are dead serious. I hope the Clintonites |
blm |
Mar-29-06 06:43 PM |
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Want to make a wager that the Clintonistas will quash that attempt |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 06:54 PM |
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Is anyone who wants us to lay off of Bush even going to think about |
Ken Burch |
Mar-30-06 02:44 PM |
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K & R! |
msgadget |
Mar-29-06 04:05 PM |
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Mar-29-06 04:07 PM |
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k&r |
radio4progressives |
Mar-29-06 04:09 PM |
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THIS IS NOT TRUE - The moment Feingold moved censure into committee is the |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:12 PM |
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It wasn't Feingold who moved the Resolution to Committee, it was Durbin |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:59 PM |
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Thanks paineinthearse |
AuntiBush |
Mar-29-06 04:22 PM |
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Except it's selling A FALSE PREMISE. The info in it is BAD. |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:24 PM |
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The info is not bad - it is revealing who voted for Censure of Clinton |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:36 PM |
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YES, it's bad - If you're NOT on that list you wanted IMPEACHMENT PROCESS |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:45 PM |
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STUPID left bloggers supporting GOP demand for quick censure vote to STOP |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:23 PM |
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Mar-29-06 04:46 PM |
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Siding WITH Feingold's moving censure into committee to continue |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:58 PM |
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No. It's stupid to call people stupid because they don't agree with you. |
katinmn |
Mar-29-06 05:09 PM |
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There are left bloggers spreading BAD INFO because they're not getting |
blm |
Mar-29-06 05:14 PM |
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Committee investigation? Please. I'm getting a side ache. |
katinmn |
Mar-29-06 09:50 PM |
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Apparently you disagree with Feingold whose committee is holding hearings |
blm |
Mar-30-06 09:09 AM |
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People don't seem to be writing in to support blm on this... |
Iowa |
Mar-29-06 10:07 PM |
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Facts, schmacts. |
MH1 |
Mar-29-06 05:10 PM |
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Schmacts is right. Post 19 clearly shows the author's true color n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-29-06 06:57 PM |
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Sorry...The question is: Why aren't they listed as Co-sponsors? |
farmbo |
Mar-30-06 08:03 AM |
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WRONG - The MOMENT Feingold moved censure into committee the action |
blm |
Mar-30-06 09:17 AM |
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Strawman alert: The co-sponsors aren't saying " vote now, no investigation |
farmbo |
Mar-30-06 11:57 AM |
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Their SUPPORT for investigation helped GET THOSE HEARINGS FRIDAY. |
blm |
Mar-30-06 12:08 PM |
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Bush has admitted skirting FISA...and given Congress the old "Vaffanculo!" |
farmbo |
Mar-30-06 01:02 PM |
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Some already do and have been helpful to Feingold's push for hearings. |
blm |
Mar-30-06 01:11 PM |
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Farmbo, I missed this little factoid... please clarify for me.. |
radio4progressives |
Apr-01-06 12:45 AM |
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Check this out: from March 17th (Rove's handiwork) |
farmbo |
Apr-01-06 08:50 AM |
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I agree with you |
Norquist Nemesis |
Mar-30-06 01:46 PM |
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are you serious? Schumer's move was a complete OUT and END RUN |
radio4progressives |
Apr-01-06 12:48 AM |
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hey, i like the aesthetics of your photo arrangement. |
rodeodance |
Mar-29-06 04:27 PM |
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Act locally |
paineinthearse |
Mar-29-06 04:28 PM |
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WHY are you supporting GOPs position instead of Feingold? |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:41 PM |
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I have called Kohl's office but will do so again. |
rodeodance |
Mar-29-06 04:29 PM |
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the hearing is Friday (below)--email cspan and ask to cover. I checked |
rodeodance |
Mar-29-06 04:33 PM |
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here is email address for cspan |
rodeodance |
Mar-29-06 04:37 PM |
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BEWARE - The OP benefits the GOP position, NOT Feingold's. |
blm |
Mar-29-06 04:43 PM |
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Why does this person's list keep changing? |
ProSense |
Mar-29-06 04:38 PM |
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I've called Feinstein three times now. |
guidod |
Mar-29-06 05:39 PM |
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DUers, take a BREATH!! |
WesDem |
Mar-29-06 06:52 PM |
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absolutely correct. |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-29-06 09:51 PM |
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I'm inclined to agree wth Paul Craig Roberts' assertion that Dems are |
Nothing Without Hope |
Mar-29-06 10:59 PM |
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It would explain some of the very strange behavior of elected officials |
katinmn |
Mar-29-06 11:07 PM |
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Exactly. Some of the GOPs, too, have acted very strangely, first |
Nothing Without Hope |
Mar-29-06 11:15 PM |
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RFK Jr estimated last year that 95% of the GOPs and 75% of the Dems |
Nothing Without Hope |
Mar-29-06 11:19 PM |
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Listen to what blm is saying... |
Andromeda |
Mar-30-06 01:18 AM |
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"The time has come for Senate Democrats to stand up to George Bush and..." |
paineinthearse |
Mar-30-06 07:05 AM |
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The author is not credible. Why does he keep changing the list? |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 07:24 AM |
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The problem is that the focus is wrong - They should be calling committee |
Mass |
Mar-30-06 07:31 AM |
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That's fine, but this article promotes a bogus argument on many levels n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 07:35 AM |
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We'll see what happens Friday - Specter seems committed to bring this |
Mass |
Mar-30-06 07:39 AM |
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So, what is Feingold's excuse voting for Roberts? for Ascroft? ... |
Mass |
Mar-30-06 07:25 AM |
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What is Feingold's excuse for not supporting DSM investigation? |
MH1 |
Mar-30-06 08:47 AM |
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Except Feingold WANTS THEM TO SUPPORT INVESTIGATION AND HEARINGS |
blm |
Mar-30-06 09:36 AM |
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Dems voted to Censure Clinton For a Blow Job, but Refuse to Censure Bush |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:38 PM |
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You do know that censure then was to STOP impeachment process in the |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:22 PM |
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you seem to suggest that Censure is always in lieu of Impeachment |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 01:19 PM |
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I never suggested that even once. |
blm |
Mar-31-06 01:29 PM |
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Mar-30-06 07:29 AM |
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Not people who disagree, bloggers who spread FALSE INFO and help the GOP |
blm |
Mar-30-06 08:02 AM |
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Show me the "FALSE INFO" |
paineinthearse |
Mar-30-06 08:55 AM |
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The false info is saying the list supported censure for Clinton but DON'T |
blm |
Mar-30-06 09:31 AM |
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Where's the Evidence that any of these Senators support Impeachment? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:57 PM |
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Senators have no business pre-judging impeachment, especially since |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:35 PM |
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Reading the Tea Leaves is not citing Secret Knowledge... |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 12:23 PM |
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BLM this is getting a little bit over the top here... |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:42 PM |
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Censure INSTEAD OF IMPEACHMENT |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-30-06 03:09 PM |
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YOU don't know who is against censure because they haven't VOTED ON IT. |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:26 PM |
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i got this automated response from bill nelson |
flblu2 |
Mar-30-06 07:48 AM |
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cowering???? or just dont agree with feingold on approach |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-06 09:05 AM |
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yes, cowering. |
garybeck |
Mar-30-06 01:30 PM |
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I can think of more for impeachment, Censure is weak! |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 01:40 PM |
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If they won't go for Censure, they won't go for Impeachment.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:45 PM |
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Isn't it obvious that until they take back Congress it's moot? n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 01:58 PM |
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I've been suggesting, that we won't see a Democratic Congress Impeach |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:25 PM |
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Why stop everything. Is there Republican support for censure? n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 02:31 PM |
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Stop? Stopping what? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:41 PM |
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Hear ! Hear! |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:44 PM |
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well they are doing "something". but obviously it doesnt matter to |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-06 02:03 PM |
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btw, censor is fine with me, impeachment is fine with me, |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-06 02:04 PM |
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speaking of rhetoric... what exactly ARE they doing? |
garybeck |
Mar-30-06 02:47 PM |
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that's what i want to know.. exactly what are they doing? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:53 PM |
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exactly. the lack of response is your answer... |
garybeck |
Mar-31-06 12:38 PM |
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Their lack of response reminds me of Scalia's jesture |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 01:17 PM |
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What I don't get is that we have two men |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-31-06 12:47 PM |
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I never saw this as a political stunt, or that Feingold would succeed |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 01:01 PM |
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Did you see Kerry and the fillibuster as a stunt? |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-31-06 01:04 PM |
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absolutely not... I was very pro-filibuster |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 01:15 PM |
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Groovy. I was very disturbed when a Dem/near Green co-worker |
LittleClarkie |
Mar-31-06 01:28 PM |
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Actually, R4P didn't support Kerry |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-01-06 01:03 PM |
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Kerry shouldn't have HAD to lead it - he's not a judiciary Dem. |
blm |
Mar-31-06 01:37 PM |
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Kerry wanted to lead this because it was a campaign promise |
radio4progressives |
Apr-01-06 12:39 AM |
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BULLSHIT you did not! |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-01-06 01:01 PM |
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the BIG missing point in all of this discussion is:::::> |
garybeck |
Mar-30-06 01:21 PM |
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exactly |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 01:48 PM |
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And how exactly does censure, attempted or real, stop Bush? |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 02:01 PM |
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Censure Resolution Officially Puts him "On Notice" and |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:22 PM |
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An investigation, with or without censure, can lead to impeachment n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 02:26 PM |
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true, but don't we also want prosecution and conviction? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:28 PM |
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Censure is not prosecution, and has no impact on an investigation. n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 02:33 PM |
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omg. i know that. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-30-06 02:38 PM |
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I don't think you do. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-30-06 03:11 PM |
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who cares. |
garybeck |
Mar-30-06 02:49 PM |
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I do. I don't want an apology from Bush. Americans don't know? n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 02:53 PM |
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no, they don't know. |
garybeck |
Mar-30-06 04:09 PM |
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About 65% of the other half don't care, and the rest want proof. n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-30-06 04:17 PM |
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Kennedy and Leahy already demanded ALL the NSA documents for the committee |
blm |
Mar-30-06 03:39 PM |
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I note with interest |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-31-06 11:35 AM |
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Everything "Reflects Badly" on the Democrats |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 11:52 AM |
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"censure motion's inevitable failure will reflect badly on the Democrats." |
garybeck |
Mar-31-06 12:41 PM |
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I'm afraid this is rather what I mean. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-31-06 01:26 PM |
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Since when did defending the Bill of Rights become a "Far Left" issue? |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 02:49 PM |
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Empty rhetoric. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-31-06 03:10 PM |
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Talk about Empty Rhetoric and Tortured Logic |
radio4progressives |
Apr-01-06 12:55 AM |
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But it won't happen! |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-01-06 04:04 AM |
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they are all dirty and they know it. |
NVMojo |
Mar-31-06 11:54 AM |
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My Hunch Proved Out Today & Feingold Nailed it when he said Cover Up! |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 11:58 AM |
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Russ |
mdmc |
Mar-31-06 12:26 PM |
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yes he does... bless his freedom rocking heart and soul... |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 12:50 PM |
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I think you're wrong - Feingold SUCCEEDED TODAY - he forced media to cover |
blm |
Mar-31-06 01:23 PM |
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Huh? There was no accountability for the Public Record Today.. |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 02:45 PM |
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He got the Republican's defense on RECORD and the testimony FOR censure |
blm |
Mar-31-06 03:02 PM |
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Yes I agree with this point, which is why I supported it to begin with |
radio4progressives |
Mar-31-06 03:14 PM |
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That's what happens when you act on the fly - preparation and friends are |
blm |
Mar-31-06 06:47 PM |
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Feingold 'succeeded' today? |
robcon |
Apr-01-06 07:55 AM |
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Jesus! |
0007 |
Apr-01-06 01:04 PM |
#172 |