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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:58 AM
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15. Most of their advice in 2004
which they loudly despensed when Kerry didn't let them run his campaign was not all that good. (They argued that he needed to speak on the economy and not national security and Iraq - though Kerry's numbers improved when he spoke of the security issues.)

In Clinton they had a very charismatic candidate. They had a President who was in the low 30s in the spring of 1992 and at 29 in August. There was a time when Perot and Bush polled above Clinton. Only after Perot self-destructed and pulled out did Clinton become the highest. When Perot came back in he never had numbers as high as he did before he left. 1992 was a year when any Democrat might have won - though when decisions had to be made on running in mid to late 1991, Bush had looked unbeatable. This would be closer to beating Bush, now after he's dropped 10 to 15 points since Nov 2004 - and Kerry lost by 60,000 votes in Ohio. Notice Bush 2 is still higher than his dad.)

The Clinton team, even with a Clinton political clone (who had never been President), might have done worse than Cahill did.
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  -James Carville & Paul Begala RufusEarl  Mar-27-06 02:57 PM   #0 
  - Carville is working for Hillary, as far as I know  SharonRB   Mar-27-06 03:04 PM   #1 
  - I don't think these guys had anything to do with  tularetom   Mar-27-06 03:06 PM   #2 
  - You need to watch the War Room.  tasteblind   Mar-27-06 03:13 PM   #4 
  - Editting does wonders  karynnj   Mar-28-06 09:18 AM   #16 
  - Except I believe that Kerry was Diebolded in.  Clark2008   Mar-28-06 09:28 AM   #17 
  - Kerry was very good in the primary debates  karynnj   Mar-28-06 10:14 AM   #20 
  - Thank you for the nice reply.  Clark2008   Mar-28-06 11:00 PM   #33 
  - Care to explain how you rig a caucus? Care to explain why corporate media  blm   Mar-28-06 12:57 PM   #31 
  - I don't understand what this has to do with my post. n/t  tasteblind   Mar-28-06 09:29 AM   #18 
     - Point was that I doubt Carville was everything the  karynnj   Mar-28-06 10:22 AM   #21 
        - I'm just saying that the stuff he said in the War Room beats  tasteblind   Mar-28-06 10:27 AM   #22 
           - I misunderstood the original post -  karynnj   Mar-28-06 10:48 AM   #25 
  - he sure was then!  dionysus   Mar-28-06 11:18 PM   #34 
  - Yeah....what he said  RubyDuby in GA   Mar-27-06 03:53 PM   #7 
  - They are both DLC shills, so my guess would be they support:  Totally Committed   Mar-27-06 03:10 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-27-06 04:23 PM   #9 
     - kudos  DaveinMD   Mar-27-06 09:49 PM   #10 
     - Because, like many here, TC is tired of the corporate shilling.  Clark2008   Mar-28-06 09:37 AM   #19 
     - Tired of the corporate shilling.... yes,  Totally Committed   Mar-28-06 11:16 AM   #26 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-28-06 12:29 PM   #27 
           - Sorry to hear that. Then, the 'ignore' options is yours to take.  Totally Committed   Mar-28-06 12:59 PM   #32 
  - Can't stand Carville and don't trust him.  endarkenment   Mar-27-06 03:25 PM   #5 
  - I agree with your  colbushwhacker_2000   Mar-27-06 03:38 PM   #6 
  - Its not the same Carville  OzarkDem   Mar-27-06 04:17 PM   #8 
  - A couple of things they're interested in - how many TV appearances, when .  hatrack   Mar-27-06 10:24 PM   #11 
     - James & Paul are a big turn off these days for me.  0007   Mar-27-06 10:29 PM   #12 
        - Me too! n/t  wisteria   Mar-27-06 10:39 PM   #13 
  - I want to like Carville  mrgorth   Mar-28-06 07:36 AM   #14 
  - Most of their advice in 2004  karynnj   Mar-28-06 08:58 AM   #15 
  - Question: Who cares what these two hacks think?  iconoclastNYC   Mar-28-06 10:29 AM   #23 
  - Mary takes some time off to write a book and James comes out...  kentuck   Mar-28-06 10:30 AM   #24 
  - Has either mentioned GOP's control of most media and voting machines?  blm   Mar-28-06 12:50 PM   #28 
  - Carville's said on numerous occasions that he is loyal to Senator Clinton.  nickshepDEM   Mar-28-06 12:53 PM   #29 
  - They both supported Kerry then wrote a book about why he failed.  mzmolly   Mar-28-06 12:56 PM   #30 
  - DLC all the way...wouldn't pay either one any mind Maybe they'll even  leesa   Mar-29-06 10:40 AM   #35 

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