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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:30 PM
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13. Democrats have lost by NOT sticking to their principles
And by moving rightward. The party as a whole continues to lose because they have not stood up for the principles that are the foundation of the Democratic Party: civil rights (including first and foremost the right to privacy and, thus, the right to choose), economic issues (including support for unions and which they have scuttled in favor of some corporatist, free trade agenda), the environment (although I generally think the Democrats have been okay here).

The left, as you call it, is merely advocating a return to the Democratic Party of old, not this centrist, corporatist, anti-worker one that seems to be in vogue right now.
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  -Democrats Must Decide Whether They'd Rather Play Principals Or Win John Barrett  Mar-18-06 07:32 PM   #0 
  - if we don't win, our principles are moot  AtomicKitten   Mar-18-06 07:34 PM   # 
  - In other words, lets be good Republicans and we can win!!!  amBushed   Mar-18-06 07:34 PM   #1 
  - Okay, but I am still for censure  MissWaverly   Mar-18-06 07:39 PM   #2 
  - I agree and disagree...  kentuck   Mar-18-06 07:39 PM   #3 
  - Statements aren't arguments. Prove it.  Teaser   Mar-18-06 07:43 PM   #4 
  - 39 posts under your belt, and you're starting threads here already,  PBass   Mar-18-06 07:55 PM   #5 
     - and how Randi Rhodes was wrong in showing  lumpy   Mar-18-06 08:45 PM   #8 
  - Play Principals and Win  Generic Brad   Mar-18-06 07:59 PM   #6 
  - if we don't fight for our principles, our principles are moot  welshTerrier2   Mar-18-06 08:37 PM   #7 
  - I'm On Your Side  John Barrett   Mar-18-06 09:13 PM   #10 
     - The issues you highlight ARE the issues the Dems ran on  TayTay   Mar-18-06 09:21 PM   #11 
     - Rove and Fox News and Swiftboats, oh my ...  welshTerrier2   Mar-18-06 09:29 PM   #12 
     - I live in SF and support Mayor Newsom's brave stand  AtomicKitten   Mar-18-06 09:32 PM   #14 
        - I live in Massachusetts and Gay Marriage is the accepted law  TayTay   Mar-18-06 09:59 PM   #17 
           - Agreed  John Barrett   Mar-18-06 10:20 PM   #20 
  - It means calling a spade a spade, pal  Capn Sunshine   Mar-18-06 08:53 PM   #9 
  - Democrats have lost by NOT sticking to their principles  alarimer   Mar-18-06 09:30 PM   #13 
  - Bring Back The Democrats of 60 Years Ago  John Barrett   Mar-18-06 10:02 PM   #18 
  - Your entire argument is based on one EXTREMELY fatal proposal  jsamuel   Mar-18-06 09:41 PM   #15 
  - Corrupt corporatism is a core left wing issue  sandnsea   Mar-18-06 09:56 PM   #16 
  - ironically, the farther left, the more accurate pre-war analysis on Iraq  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:54 PM   #28 
  - So you bring in more repukes and turn off more Dems  Mountainman   Mar-18-06 10:15 PM   #19 
  - Are The Election Machines Accurate?  John Barrett   Mar-18-06 10:32 PM   #21 
  - What are you talking about?!  guidod   Mar-18-06 10:33 PM   #22 
  - the right will ridicule Dems no matter what anyway.  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:48 PM   #26 
  - Principles do win--lack of them looks like vacillation and cowardice  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:41 PM   #23 
  - while the GOP has beat down Dems who have stood up, they leave the  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:43 PM   #24 
  - Our use of the military overseas has nothing to do with defense since  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:47 PM   #25 
  - Agreed--NM  John Barrett   Mar-18-06 10:49 PM   #27 
  - In the last couple of decades "center" has moved so far right that...  yurbud   Mar-18-06 10:57 PM   #29 
  - your premise is completely flawed . . .  OneBlueSky   Mar-19-06 02:41 AM   #30 
  - Principals. Every time. No Brainer.  TankLV   Mar-19-06 09:55 AM   #31 
  - Democrats don't need to change their principles...  sendero   Mar-19-06 10:22 AM   #32 

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