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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 04:10 AM
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40. There are Oscar geeks who study this much closer than I do...
so I agree with you mostly because...a lot of them were saying it was time for another BP/BD split, because that hadn't happened since '03, when Roman Polanski won BD but Chicago won BP. (And does that mean that the Academy is anti-Semitic or unsympathetic to Holocaust movies? Hardly. Most watchers I know at the time thought it might go the other way, since Polanski is more controversial than his movie)

BBM wasn't dissed. It did very well! There was no big sweep this year, and it was a very tight category full of good films, and we'll never know if Crash won by 200 votes or 2.

Which is NOT to say that there isn't homophobia in Hollywood, much less the rest of the country. Of course there is. But even if BBM had won BP, then what? Do we think there's no more racism in Hollywood because a few people of color have won big awards over the years? That'd be silly.

The fact that the Best Actor winner played a gay character, and a Best Actress nominee played a transgendered character...(and for that matter, as good as she was in Million Dollar Baby, last year's Best Actress winner is still best remembered to me for playing a trans character) it's a sign of the ice breaking. Still a long way to go, fuck yeah, but it does weaken the evidence of conspiracy, doesn't it?

That said, I'll be a lot happier about the state of gay Hollywood once Sir Ian McKellen wins the Oscar he's deserved for years.
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  -Let me get this straight: BBM wins Best Director, Adapted Screenplay. . . wndycty  Mar-07-06 07:30 AM   #0 
  - As a lesbian, I agree with you  LostinVA   Mar-07-06 07:35 AM   #1 
  - Isn't there something in the Bible  BOSSHOG   Mar-07-06 07:36 AM   #2 
  - I think so...  BoneDaddy   Mar-07-06 09:02 AM   #7 
     - Personally, I think a movie about gay steel workers would have...  Javaman   Mar-08-06 10:33 AM   #47 
        - Only if the gay steel workers meet up with the gay cowboys  RagingInMiami   Mar-08-06 03:45 PM   #66 
  - Agreed. This faux controversy isn't worth the electrons . . .  MrModerate   Mar-07-06 07:37 AM   #3 
  - A good point about Hoffman  DrGonzoLives   Mar-07-06 07:39 AM   #4 
  - Anyone thinking "Capote" had nothing to do with homosexuality, missed  Feles Mala   Mar-08-06 03:35 PM   #61 
     - I'd have been a proud gay guy if it had won, but I was just as impressed  Feles Mala   Mar-08-06 03:39 PM   #63 
  - This kind of thing happens ALL the time with the oscars.  MookieWilson   Mar-07-06 07:54 AM   #5 
  - No  Radio_Guy   Mar-07-06 08:57 AM   #6 
  - You are brilliant  BoneDaddy   Mar-07-06 09:07 AM   #8 
  - How is showing gay-themed movies on the big screen shoving  cboy4   Mar-08-06 03:10 PM   #59 
  - I wonder how many gay academy members voted for Crash. . .  wndycty   Mar-07-06 05:15 PM   #13 
  - I don't recal Passion of the Christ winning best picture. . .  wndycty   Mar-07-06 05:19 PM   #14 
  - It was nominated for  fujiyama   Mar-07-06 06:03 PM   #17 
     - Oh no  FreedomAngel82   Mar-08-06 08:09 PM   #74 
  - Of course there'sno proof at all of your claims  FreedomAngel82   Mar-08-06 08:08 PM   #73 
  - Can't someone just count? Audience volume...the truth.  Sparkman   Mar-07-06 09:14 AM   #9 
  - That's what the "People's Choice" awards are for...  blondeatlast   Mar-08-06 09:40 AM   #45 
     - Democratic advocate here, let the people choose and let us vote.  Sparkman   Mar-08-06 09:52 AM   #46 
        - Why don't we let the people vote for Nobel prizes too?  alcibiades_mystery   Mar-08-06 03:10 PM   #58 
        - Glad that someone beat me to it.  blondeatlast   Mar-08-06 03:38 PM   #62 
        - I don't presume to be qualified for Nobel Prizes....but we all know movies  Sparkman   Mar-09-06 02:42 PM   #80 
        - Then don't call them Academy awards  rinsd   Mar-08-06 05:14 PM   #67 
  - Yeah, you got it "STRAIGHT" - you damn homophobe!  FormerRushFan   Mar-07-06 09:57 AM   #10 
  - It's just the freaking Oscars,  PBass   Mar-07-06 10:17 AM   #11 
     - Maybe you should check out what I wrote in my msg b4 replying next time...  FormerRushFan   Mar-07-06 11:10 AM   #12 
  - Nice rant, and you hit the proverbial nail right on the head  Cronus Protagonist   Mar-07-06 05:35 PM   #15 
  - The fact that "Good Night and Good Luck" won nothing  high density   Mar-07-06 05:57 PM   #16 
  - That's my new line.  ContraBass Black   Mar-08-06 08:02 PM   # 
  - Clooney did win won award  FreedomAngel82   Mar-08-06 08:11 PM   #75 
  - A couple of things  dsc   Mar-07-06 09:25 PM   #18 
  - So can I claim racism for Terrence Howard losing Best Actor?  wndycty   Mar-07-06 09:27 PM   #19 
     - Did Terrence Howard win Best Actor at the Golden Globes  ruggerson   Mar-07-06 09:31 PM   #20 
     - What about Saving Private Ryan?  Starbucks Anarchist   Mar-08-06 05:27 AM   #41 
        - Shakespeare in Love was tediously awful  rinsd   Mar-08-06 11:27 AM   #48 
        - Take out the first half hour  dsc   Mar-08-06 08:02 PM   #71 
           - But my point was in response to post #20.  Starbucks Anarchist   Mar-09-06 05:09 AM   #78 
     - Could racism have been a factor in The Color Purple getting 11 noms  QC   Mar-07-06 09:33 PM   #21 
     - actually that was African Americans complaining  dsc   Mar-07-06 09:40 PM   #23 
        - I remember considerable black anger over that.  QC   Mar-07-06 10:46 PM   #34 
           - I would imagine that  dsc   Mar-07-06 11:15 PM   #36 
              - Lean on Me didn't deserve an Oscar!  proud2Blib   Mar-08-06 12:06 PM   #52 
                 - I think in both of those films he gave great performances  dsc   Mar-08-06 06:33 PM   #68 
                    - Maybe because I am a teacher who thought Joe Clark was a poor  proud2Blib   Mar-08-06 08:39 PM   #77 
                       - I don't like Hannibal Lector either  dsc   Mar-09-06 05:18 AM   #79 
     - The Academy is well known to be racist  dsc   Mar-07-06 09:39 PM   #22 
        - And how many times was Spike Lee snubbed outright?  Withywindle   Mar-08-06 03:57 AM   #39 
  - Yeah, that's right  ruggerson   Mar-07-06 09:47 PM   #24 
  - A message from my gay friends.  AtomicKitten   Mar-07-06 09:53 PM   #25 
  - What gay theme is in the last three?  dsc   Mar-07-06 09:55 PM   #26 
  - waaaaaa?  AtomicKitten   Mar-07-06 09:57 PM   #27 
     - You post a thing stating that four films were honored  dsc   Mar-07-06 10:04 PM   #28 
  - AK, I think you're an extraordinarily bright human being  ruggerson   Mar-07-06 10:16 PM   #29 
  - that was the point  AtomicKitten   Mar-07-06 10:43 PM   #33 
  - There are Oscar geeks who study this much closer than I do...  Withywindle   Mar-08-06 04:10 AM   #40 
  - Earlier in the week on Stephanie Miller's show  FreedomAngel82   Mar-08-06 08:15 PM   #76 
  - so you're saying people who refused to see the film still voted for Lee  onenote   Mar-09-06 05:21 PM   #82 
  - Well, if Official San Francisco Homosexuals say there's no problem with it  QC   Mar-08-06 09:35 AM   #44 
     - wow that was a random conclusion  AtomicKitten   Mar-08-06 02:15 PM   #54 
        - Well, it's kinda like someone saying,  QC   Mar-08-06 03:26 PM   #60 
           - I can only speak for myself.  AtomicKitten   Mar-08-06 03:44 PM   #65 
  - BBM - Let's move on  GoneOffShore   Mar-07-06 10:19 PM   #30 
  - If you're not interested in a topic, don't click on the threads.  QC   Mar-07-06 10:33 PM   #31 
  - You apparently are just interested in provoking gay people, because how  cboy4   Mar-07-06 10:38 PM   #32 
  - The major gay actors are in the closet NOT because Hollywood is  NYCGirl   Mar-07-06 10:59 PM   #35 
     - I disagree. I think you're only citing Hollywood propaganda.  cboy4   Mar-07-06 11:32 PM   #37 
     - gay mucians have done fine  dsc   Mar-08-06 12:10 AM   #38 
     - Neither of them came out for a LONG time and I don't think George  NYCGirl   Mar-08-06 09:31 AM   #43 
     - Elton has been out for a long time  dsc   Mar-08-06 06:35 PM   #69 
     - George Michael?  rinsd   Mar-08-06 11:31 AM   #49 
     - Finding out Rock Hudson was gay  jbnow   Mar-08-06 09:20 AM   #42 
        - Isn't it curious that some straight people won't go to the theater  cboy4   Mar-08-06 11:57 AM   #50 
           - Rock Hudson died in 69  jbnow   Mar-08-06 02:22 PM   #56 
              - The bottom line is you said in your O.P. that Hollywood is not homophobic  cboy4   Mar-08-06 03:01 PM   #57 
              - Oh, I agree with you on that  jbnow   Mar-08-06 03:40 PM   #64 
                 - Absolutely. I appreciate you clarifying that  cboy4   Mar-08-06 07:59 PM   #70 
              - Um,  MountainMama   Mar-09-06 05:16 PM   #81 
  - Agreed  SteelBird   Mar-08-06 12:03 PM   #51 
  - The only reason I'm pissed Crash won...  SteppingRazor   Mar-08-06 12:12 PM   #53 
  - clearly many disagree  AtomicKitten   Mar-08-06 02:16 PM   #55 
  - Don't say that you're homophobic  FreedomAngel82   Mar-08-06 08:06 PM   #72 

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