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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:01 PM
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75. Agree to disagree...on this point. :)
"What I do say is that it was unprofessional, in my opinion, not to watch the movie after agreeing to vote on the nominees. But that is a far, far cry from homophobia." I agree it was unprofessional, but if the motivation to not see the film was not genre, but what is was about/who was in it (homo/bisexuality/gay people) then that sounds like the makings of homophobia. But, that is my opinion.
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  -Why is homophobia so hard for some to see? Behind the Aegis  Mar-06-06 03:05 AM   #0 
  - Here's a simple concept for you  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 03:12 AM   #1 
  - FreedomAngel  Syrinx   Mar-06-06 03:16 AM   #4 
  - You can't say anything unless you've walked in the other person's shoes.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:17 AM   #6 
  - So by the concept you're going you're rascists then  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 01:59 PM   #58 
  - That makes no sense.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 02:11 PM   #65 
  - I'm not interested in "walking" in a freepers "shoes"...  T Town Jake   Mar-07-06 12:55 AM   #100 
     - You plan on denying them rights?  Behind the Aegis   Mar-07-06 01:26 AM   #102 
        - Nope: just curious about your own limits on this...  T Town Jake   Mar-07-06 01:42 AM   #104 
           - as has your non-avoidance of the real issue...  Behind the Aegis   Mar-07-06 01:47 AM   #105 
              - Which is a cute, if smarmy, way of saying:  T Town Jake   Mar-07-06 01:52 AM   #106 
                 - yeah...  Behind the Aegis   Mar-07-06 01:53 AM   #107 
                    - Ah, and the penultimate logical fallacy of...  T Town Jake   Mar-07-06 01:59 AM   #108 
                       - And you, with the condesending and name-calling...  Behind the Aegis   Mar-07-06 02:05 AM   #109 
                          - I understand...really I do...  T Town Jake   Mar-07-06 02:18 AM   #111 
  - O'Reilly & Olbermann  Erika   Mar-06-06 03:19 AM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-06-06 02:00 PM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-06-06 02:01 PM   #60 
  - Think there is a distinction between the viewing public  bigbrother05   Mar-06-06 03:31 AM   #15 
  - Apparently there's not that much of a distinction.  crispini   Mar-06-06 09:19 AM   #51 
     - All members are sent "screener" versions of the BP nominees,  blondeatlast   Mar-06-06 03:58 PM   #82 
     - That doesn't even qualify as a rumor.  Inland   Mar-07-06 06:33 AM   #118 
  - Well here it is...  SaveElmer   Mar-06-06 02:56 PM   #73 
  - Or read the book and thought it sucked.  Inland   Mar-06-06 11:39 PM   #99 
  - you said: I love men and don't have any plan of changing  fishwax   Mar-07-06 01:23 AM   #101 
  - And you shouldn't say anything until you've seen the film you comment on.  David Zephyr   Mar-08-06 08:55 PM   #136 
  - if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a noise?  Syrinx   Mar-06-06 03:14 AM   #2 
  - 'diversity training film'  Bluebear   Mar-06-06 03:15 AM   #3 
  - That is how I felt.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:19 AM   #10 
  - I didn't even see it...  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 04:15 AM   #37 
     - I can't speak to your reality...but you really should see it.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 04:27 AM   #39 
  - Did you see crash? Did you think that about Crash?  iconoclastNYC   Mar-06-06 04:01 PM   #83 
     - I may be L.A.-phobic  KurtNYC   Mar-07-06 01:47 PM   #126 
  - We are slowly moving acceptance levels up, very slowly  Erika   Mar-06-06 03:17 AM   #5 
  - Right  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 03:18 AM   #8 
     - Munich was nominated for a couple.  Che_Nuevara   Mar-06-06 04:01 AM   #33 
        - So you agree that BBM lost for political reasons?  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 04:05 AM   #35 
  - I wouldn't say that's necessarily racist  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 03:17 AM   #7 
  - "I wouldn't say that's necessarily racist"  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:23 AM   #12 
  - it might, depends on what else they say  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 03:31 AM   #14 
     - Interesting.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:46 AM   #25 
        - I get  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 03:58 AM   #31 
           - Glad we are on the same wavelength now.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 04:11 AM   #36 
  - Homophobia is an illness, not a choice!  Filibuster   Mar-06-06 06:32 PM   #95 
  - Homophobia, like any other vile prejudice  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-07-06 02:36 AM   #112 
     - yes, I think you have it right  Wetzelbill   Mar-07-06 09:02 AM   #123 
        - You provide a very accurate description  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-07-06 07:21 PM   #129 
           - right on  Wetzelbill   Mar-08-06 06:17 AM   #130 
  - Exactly  markam   Mar-09-06 11:31 AM   #141 
  - Brokeback mountain made  burrowowl   Mar-06-06 03:22 AM   #11 
  - I was shocked  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 03:34 AM   #18 
     - And that changed him too  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 02:03 PM   #61 
  - The same reason some here want to say rap should not exist  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:30 AM   #13 
  - Bravo.  Bluebear   Mar-06-06 03:32 AM   #16 
  - ...  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:34 AM   #19 
  - So let me get this straight  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 03:34 AM   #17 
  - Whaaaat?  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:36 AM   #21 
  - For the record--  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:46 AM   #24 
  - You deny hate crimes against gays. That means you're a homophobe.  readmoreoften   Mar-07-06 03:37 AM   #115 
  - Hi friend!!  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:36 AM   #20 
  - Hi You!  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:42 AM   #22 
     - I remember when "Theme from Shaft" won for best song.  Bluebear   Mar-06-06 03:45 AM   #23 
     - You fucking nailed it!  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:48 AM   #27 
     - You didn't read long enough--  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:56 AM   #30 
     - Like yelling at the screen is a bad thing.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:59 AM   #32 
     - The Oscars are about movies not politics!  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 02:04 PM   #62 
     - We actually discussed Shaft some this evening...  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:51 AM   #28 
        - Gay people aren't protrayed on tv?  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 02:05 PM   #63 
           - (sigh)...  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 02:25 PM   #67 
           - dupe post  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 02:28 PM   #69 
     - Eminem won a few years ago for "Lose Yourself"  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 03:46 AM   #26 
        - I remember that--  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 03:54 AM   #29 
           - yeah I wasn't online then either  Wetzelbill   Mar-06-06 04:04 AM   #34 
  - is it ok with you if I don't like rap music?  Lerkfish   Mar-06-06 02:50 PM   #71 
  - You don't need my permission or approval.  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 06:01 PM   #91 
  - Well said, expresses the source of anger perfectly.  Harvey Korman   Mar-06-06 04:18 PM   #84 
  - Hey Harvey--  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 06:10 PM   #92 
  - Thank you so much for this post. Your final paragraph is a gem....  cboy4   Mar-06-06 05:03 PM   #87 
     - Hi cboy--  bliss_eternal   Mar-06-06 06:14 PM   #93 
  - Screw the Osars.....'tis all a matter of opinion and who has the  0007   Mar-06-06 04:25 AM   #38 
  - I saw all five of those movies  Skittles   Mar-06-06 04:50 AM   #40 
  - Same reason too many can't see racism.  donheld   Mar-06-06 04:55 AM   #41 
  - what has that got to do with homophobia?  rman   Mar-06-06 05:12 AM   #42 
  - It doesn't exist on the left? n/t  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 05:20 AM   #43 
     - There's plenty of homophobia on the left,  QC   Mar-06-06 08:21 AM   #48 
     - not many on the left think homosexuality is evil,  rman   Mar-06-06 11:57 AM   #54 
        - Do you understand what homophobia is?  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 02:23 PM   #66 
           - i have never come across it, so i can't testify to it  rman   Mar-06-06 03:44 PM   #78 
              - Then consider yourself lucky.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:47 PM   #79 
  - Blind prejudice, is just as bad as right out prejudice  William769   Mar-06-06 06:10 AM   #44 
  - IMO only, the movie would have had much more of an impact  mtnester   Mar-06-06 07:15 AM   #45 
  - There are very, very few openly gay actors in Hollywood,  QC   Mar-06-06 09:08 AM   #50 
  - Crash was an obvious "message" movie  alarimer   Mar-06-06 08:13 AM   #46 
  - Where's your proof?  FreedomAngel82   Mar-06-06 02:09 PM   #64 
     - What's wrong with you. I've read your posts, and you're very snotty  cboy4   Mar-06-06 03:50 PM   #80 
  - My own answer to this question  Burning Water   Mar-06-06 08:14 AM   #47 
  - Using your example...  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 01:57 PM   #57 
     - I disagree.  Burning Water   Mar-06-06 02:56 PM   #72 
        - Agree to disagree...on this point. :)  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:01 PM   #75 
           - I guess we'll have to agree  Burning Water   Mar-06-06 03:35 PM   #77 
  - I saw both. I could see both as best picture, but only one could win.  DarienComp   Mar-06-06 08:37 AM   #49 
  - See post #51, upthread.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 01:42 PM   #56 
  - Identify a prejudice of your own--say, a prejudice against people who  Peace Patriot   Mar-06-06 09:24 AM   #52 
  - take a peek at the Supreme Court decision today  Snivi Yllom   Mar-06-06 09:28 AM   #53 
  - This was the correct decision...  SaveElmer   Mar-06-06 03:56 PM   #81 
     - Um, no they wouldn't have.  Harvey Korman   Mar-06-06 04:28 PM   #85 
        - No...  SaveElmer   Mar-06-06 05:09 PM   #88 
  - Honestly, it's the argument  semillama   Mar-06-06 12:14 PM   #55 
  - Hey, you can't please all the people all the time.  AtomicKitten   Mar-06-06 02:26 PM   #68 
  - nice broad brush, there.  Lerkfish   Mar-06-06 02:46 PM   #70 
  - That's not what I said.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 03:05 PM   #76 
     - you said "Why is homophobia so hard for some to see?"  Lerkfish   Mar-06-06 04:31 PM   #86 
        - You misinterpreted.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-06-06 05:10 PM   #89 
  - I didn't see Brokeback Mountain  Mz Pip   Mar-06-06 03:01 PM   #74 
  - how do you know how many films academy members saw?  onenote   Mar-06-06 05:28 PM   #90 
  - People tend not to see what does not affect them.  QC   Mar-06-06 06:20 PM   #94 
  - Entitlement factor  bloodyohio   Mar-06-06 07:23 PM   #96 
  - Maybe I'm a homophobe?  Mr Bungle 34   Mar-06-06 07:35 PM   #97 
  - MHO,we'll know acceptance of both race/gay relationships  indie_voter   Mar-06-06 07:47 PM   #98 
  - I'm straight and I saw all the Best Picture nominees...  blueblitzkrieg   Mar-07-06 01:40 AM   #103 
  - thanks for an enlightened, intelligent post  ruggerson   Mar-07-06 09:07 AM   #124 
  - "Diversity training film" could also be applied to Brokeback.  sleipnir   Mar-07-06 02:08 AM   #110 
  - If you're hoping a movie will help acceptance, you've lost.  tomreedtoon   Mar-07-06 03:18 AM   #113 
  - Well, it truly wasn't a 'gay romance'  Bluebear   Mar-07-06 03:21 AM   #114 
  - Seeing love story's between men is pretty mainstream here now  mogster   Mar-07-06 04:05 AM   #116 
  - Where did you get this factoid from?  Inland   Mar-07-06 06:25 AM   #117 
  - There is another thread in GDP in which Tony Curtis admitted...  Maddy McCall   Mar-07-06 06:52 AM   #119 
  - Did he vote for best picture? And for which one?  Inland   Mar-07-06 06:54 AM   #120 
     - Don't know.  Maddy McCall   Mar-07-06 06:57 AM   #121 
  - See this thread inland  Bluebear   Mar-08-06 03:59 PM   #131 
  - Because people are in denial...  Punkingal   Mar-07-06 07:09 AM   #122 
  - I think the people it is most difficult for them to see....  kentuck   Mar-07-06 09:36 AM   #125 
  - I don't think homophobia was among the criteria for choosing BP  AtomicKitten   Mar-07-06 01:54 PM   #127 
  - Honestly, I don't think Brokeback deserved best film.  DarkTirade   Mar-07-06 02:32 PM   #128 
  - No film "deserved" the Oscar  wiley   Mar-08-06 05:15 PM   #132 
     - Ooookay... that was rather disjointed.  DarkTirade   Mar-08-06 08:31 PM   #134 
     - Sorry Dude!  wiley   Mar-09-06 02:04 AM   #137 
        - 'sokay, I've done that before. :)  DarkTirade   Mar-09-06 02:50 AM   #138 
     - I am not sure what your point is.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-09-06 03:56 AM   #139 
        - We are in agreement  wiley   Mar-09-06 01:01 PM   #143 
  - A quick point on not seeing the film.  rinsd   Mar-08-06 05:34 PM   #133 
  - It is NOT just one person  ruggerson   Mar-08-06 08:45 PM   #135 
     - You read articles citing rumor and that makes it rampant?  rinsd   Mar-09-06 11:20 AM   #140 
     - and exactly how did Ang Lee win for best director?  onenote   Mar-09-06 01:42 PM   #144 
  - But you can't change it by throwing sticks and stones  Jim4Wes   Mar-09-06 11:40 AM   #142 
  - I'm gay, and I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain....  election_2004   Mar-09-06 06:12 PM   #145 
 

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