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| 41. If Jeb Bush announces that he's running, then it will be Jeb Bush |
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If Jeb announces he's running, then he wins the nomination. Period. The Bush money, with their corporate/religious right connections, trumps everything.
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| -The 2008 Presidential election will be Mark Warner (D) v George Allen (R) |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 07:41 PM |
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ugh nt |
msongs |
Feb-25-06 07:42 PM |
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Hey can we keep this positive huh? At least I'm thinking outside of the |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 07:45 PM |
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Has anyone read Cornell West's Democracy Matters? |
1932 |
Feb-25-06 07:44 PM |
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Warner won in a largely Red state, and he won in HEAVILY Red areas |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 07:49 PM |
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Lots of people have won red states but aren't inspiring enough to win the |
1932 |
Feb-25-06 08:04 PM |
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Neither FDR nor Lincoln could win today |
IronLionZion |
Feb-26-06 04:07 PM |
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Couldn't disagree more. |
1932 |
Feb-27-06 12:44 AM |
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McGovern and Mondale had strong convictions |
IronLionZion |
Feb-27-06 08:03 AM |
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That's a key part about Warner. |
Conker |
Feb-25-06 09:21 PM |
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And this destructive trend will continue so long as the Democratic Party |
Telly Savalas |
Feb-26-06 12:11 AM |
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... |
radio4progressives |
Feb-26-06 12:49 AM |
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You should read George Lakoff |
1932 |
Feb-26-06 07:40 AM |
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I think most of America is actually in the Center |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 10:45 AM |
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...and they can be convinced to vote either way based on the convictions |
1932 |
Feb-26-06 12:14 PM |
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I have a signed copy... |
radio4progressives |
Feb-26-06 12:46 AM |
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Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, Barbara Lee and Sheila Jackson Lee |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 11:14 PM |
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I was a little disappointed by Warner on MTP, but I will keep an open mind |
Olney Blue |
Feb-25-06 07:47 PM |
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He's not charismatic like President Clinton or John Edwards |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 07:50 PM |
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I live in Maryland, and I respect what he did in Virginia. |
Olney Blue |
Feb-25-06 07:57 PM |
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Fab :) And I'm sorry you're stuck with Bob Erhlich :( |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 08:01 PM |
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We need to get Ehrlich out ASAP. |
Olney Blue |
Feb-25-06 08:06 PM |
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I forgot about Martin O'Malley |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 10:56 AM |
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But, he is really capable and nobody's tool, and projects that. |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:02 PM |
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Please elaborate on your opinion. Why do you believe the |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-25-06 07:49 PM |
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Because we know that Mark Warner can WIN, it's as simple as that |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 07:55 PM |
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Ah, Electability |
Zensea |
Feb-25-06 07:59 PM |
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The Electable myth, I think agree. |
Savannah Progressive |
Feb-26-06 02:00 AM |
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Yep, electability |
enough already |
Feb-26-06 08:12 AM |
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The 2004 Presidential ticket should have been Clark/Edwards |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 10:54 AM |
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Our dear, old friend! |
ContraBass Black |
Feb-26-06 04:22 PM |
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Living in the West, I have almost no knowledge about Warner. |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-25-06 08:18 PM |
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Boy, talk about tearing Va. to shreads! |
napi21 |
Feb-25-06 07:51 PM |
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Mark Warner will be doing that between now and 2008 |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 08:03 PM |
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Allen is dumb as rocks however... |
SaveElmer |
Mar-01-06 03:53 PM |
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That sort of narrows the choices, don't you think? |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 07:52 PM |
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I think it's rather more interesting though than |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 08:05 PM |
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When it smacked , George's head probably rang like a hollow bell. |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:17 PM |
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No fn way! |
MadisonProgressive |
Feb-25-06 07:54 PM |
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Out of those four....Clark and Feingold yes....Gore and Dean no |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 08:00 PM |
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You may be right about Dean (bless his heart) |
MadisonProgressive |
Feb-25-06 08:04 PM |
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Are you comfortable spouting rightwing talking points, or |
RazzleDazzle |
Feb-26-06 12:18 PM |
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Thank you n/t |
dmr |
Mar-01-06 03:34 PM |
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Well, this just pisses me off. |
aquart |
Feb-25-06 07:56 PM |
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Mark Warner won't be the nominee, I am willing to bet money on it... |
BigYawn |
Feb-25-06 08:00 PM |
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Take Hillary out of that, and keep Clark and Edwards n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-25-06 08:07 PM |
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He's not boring, and we're not looking for Dan Quayle |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:08 PM |
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There is a difference betw what you and I want and what the voters want |
BigYawn |
Feb-26-06 01:24 AM |
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Okay, so I'll take Mark Warner to a cosmetic dentist before 2008 |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 10:59 AM |
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Why do it? Why go to all of that trouble to get a Democratic |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 11:24 AM |
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I would be happy with a Clark/Warner ticket |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:36 AM |
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Since there's no groundswlell anyway, plese ommit Shelton, OK? |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-26-06 11:42 AM |
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I |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:49 AM |
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I know. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-26-06 11:55 AM |
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Shelton and Clark are not equals......for one Clark has been on the |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 12:07 PM |
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Hugh Shelton |
Donna Zen |
Feb-26-06 12:32 PM |
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We'll I'll say this about that.... |
larissa |
Feb-25-06 08:06 PM |
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And ,Mark can raise money! Well that settles it. He's our boy! |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:13 PM |
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That's because the big money men know he can win n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:00 AM |
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I think it's because the Big Money Men, i.e., corporate America |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 12:08 PM |
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Here's what DU will look like for the next two years... |
larissa |
Feb-25-06 08:16 PM |
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So, what else would you expect? |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:20 PM |
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I agree Mark ~ |
larissa |
Feb-25-06 08:26 PM |
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We're least disagreeable when we agree least. |
leveymg |
Feb-25-06 08:32 PM |
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I've noticed that nobody has said anything really bad about Warner |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:01 AM |
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Funny thing is |
sandnsea |
Feb-25-06 11:25 PM |
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I agree, the candidate that most of DU will want will be |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:04 AM |
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No it won't |
sandnsea |
Feb-26-06 02:24 PM |
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It will be like that in only ONE year |
Ignacio Upton |
Feb-25-06 11:29 PM |
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At the rate the country is going, let's worry about 2006 first... |
politicasista |
Feb-25-06 08:36 PM |
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I disliked him, and I am a Virginian. |
Meldread |
Feb-25-06 08:36 PM |
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Except for Dean, you're describing someone who doesn't exist |
leveymg |
Feb-26-06 08:03 AM |
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Yeah they can stitch that candidate together and that candidate will lose |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:09 AM |
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Walter Mondale is NOT a "forceful personality" |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-26-06 11:10 PM |
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MY party is going to choose AL GORE!!!!! |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-25-06 08:37 PM |
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If he runs, it'll be as an Independent n/t |
leftstreet |
Feb-25-06 08:40 PM |
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maybe, maybe not |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-25-06 08:44 PM |
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Nice thinking J........ |
Catchawave |
Feb-25-06 08:56 PM |
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Thanks....a point about John Murtha though I'd like to comment |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:14 AM |
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If Jeb Bush announces that he's running, then it will be Jeb Bush |
terrya |
Feb-25-06 09:25 PM |
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Warner doesn't impress me! He offers very little as far as I can see. |
wisteria |
Feb-25-06 11:00 PM |
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Hugh Shelton is a fucking right winger |
JI7 |
Feb-25-06 11:10 PM |
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Who is Hugh Shelton? |
Ignacio Upton |
Feb-25-06 11:15 PM |
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Gen. Hugh Shelton is the one that switfboated Wes Clark |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 02:33 AM |
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Shelton was also CoTJCoS under President Clinton |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:18 AM |
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Hugh Shelton is a Republican who was promoted by Clinton's |
FrenchieCat |
Feb-26-06 12:02 PM |
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The Edwards/Shelton connection is due to the NC good-old-boy network. |
NCarolinawoman |
Feb-26-06 01:21 PM |
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Chairman Mao would be a Right-Winger to many of the people on DU |
...of J.Temperance |
Feb-26-06 11:22 AM |
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That could be the biggest "who cares" election in years!! |
NativeTexan |
Feb-25-06 11:19 PM |
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Hillary is more electable than Warner? |
Ignacio Upton |
Feb-25-06 11:34 PM |
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What seems like the facts now..... |
NativeTexan |
Feb-25-06 11:36 PM |
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lol. I actually agree. Ive been calling a Warner vs Allen race |
nickshepDEM |
Feb-25-06 11:29 PM |
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Watch VA go blue for the first time since 1964! |
Ignacio Upton |
Feb-25-06 11:34 PM |
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God help us! |
mdmc |
Feb-25-06 11:50 PM |
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I still believe the Republicans will nominate Jeb Bush |
Nomen Tuum |
Feb-26-06 12:02 AM |
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vs about Two or Three Third Parties (Contenders Unknown) |
radio4progressives |
Feb-26-06 12:44 AM |
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There may be a fairly legit 3rd party from the right as well |
BlueManDude |
Feb-26-06 09:41 AM |
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my God that sounds uninspiring |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-26-06 02:36 AM |
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We need a candidate who inspires people |
PBass |
Feb-26-06 05:23 AM |
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setting aside all issues of personal ideology and preference: Al Gore |
Douglas Carpenter |
Feb-26-06 05:31 AM |
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Go Warner! |
Shelor |
Feb-26-06 08:10 AM |
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As long as McCain is not the nominee we have a shot n/t |
BlueManDude |
Feb-26-06 09:39 AM |
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frankly, the candidates for BOTH parties suck |
Magic Rat |
Feb-26-06 11:25 AM |
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So far I am unimpressed |
JNelson6563 |
Feb-26-06 11:26 AM |
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Then I'll have to sit this one out |
RazzleDazzle |
Feb-26-06 12:12 PM |
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Hugh Shelton? Are you Insane? |
wiley |
Feb-26-06 02:00 PM |
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If Jeb Bush were to run, he would lose. |
ncteechur |
Feb-26-06 03:55 PM |
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God help us. |
ContraBass Black |
Feb-26-06 04:20 PM |
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what the post above mine said. |
high density |
Feb-26-06 04:24 PM |
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So says Carnack, the DLC fan boy |
iconoclastNYC |
Mar-01-06 03:55 PM |
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Barring a miracle it is going to be Allen |
underpants |
Mar-01-06 03:56 PM |
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I'd love Warner and Clark on the ticket. |
Clarkansas |
Mar-01-06 04:35 PM |
#111 |
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