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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:28 AM
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the Dems are "F**CKING NOWHERE" on Iraq
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Edited on Sat Feb-25-06 09:31 AM by welshTerrier2
most of the 2008 possible candidates have issued their little edicts about what we should do in Iraq ... the problem is, they issued their edicts a long time ago ... they were DOA then and they're DOA now ...

what has happened in the interim is that bush has continued doing whatever the hell he wanted to do ... some would argue that the Dems have no power ... they're wrong, of course ... the Dems could have plenty of power if they were willing to try to rally the American people to end the war NOW !! but they don't ... and seemingly, they won't ...

some complain that we're not given access to the media ... but look back over the last 6 months and ask yourself what Dem stood out when speaking on Iraq ... what Dem got tons of media coverage? what Dem stirred up the whole country and got us to truly focus on the issue? it was Murtha ...

is Murtha's plan the best? don't know ... were there other strategies that might have been better for the country, better for the Iraqis, better for world peace and better for the Democratic Party? perhaps ...

the point, however, is that taking a sharp and clear position in direct opposition to bush is the only way to change the status quo ... all the other proposals were DOA ... Murtha gave us a voice; none of the others was able to do so ...

and now, as the two-dead-Americans-a-day death toll continues to rise and Iraq moves closer and closer to full-scale civil war, Democrats have done virtually F**KING NOTHING ... a little criticism of bush here; a little "we probably shoulda done something else" there ... that's not LEADERSHIP ... real leadership requires a daily commitment to stop the war ... real leadership requires real opposition ... and real leadership requires educating the American people about why we can never succeed in Iraq and rallying them to demand an end to the war ... there are a few Democrats trying to do just that; very few ...

the US needs to get out of Iraq NOW ... not in 6 months ... not in a year ... not in, as Dean has suggested, TWO YEARS ... that's not what Democrats want ... that's not what the American people want ... and it is REALLY BAD POLITICS ... the bad news is that there are no answers in Iraq; each day we remain, more will die ...

some have assumed that we can train Iraqi forces to "shoulder more of the responsibility" ... the benchmarks Kerry and others have called for was always based primarily on the transition of power to the Iraqis ... well, wake the fuck up!!! it is NOT HAPPENING !!! we cannot continue to tapdance around the realities in Iraq ... and we should not support candidates who continue to vote for more funds to allow bush to continue this madness ... we are about to enter the fourth year of this insanity ... that's longer than we spent in WWII ...

STOP FUNDING THE DAMNED WAR or we will stop funding YOU !!! it's time to support only those candidates who vote to cut-off funding for the war ...


Pentagon: Iraqi troops downgraded

No Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support

The only Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support has been downgraded to a level requiring them to fight with American troops backing them up, the Pentagon said Friday.

The battalion, made up of 700 to 800 Iraqi Army soldiers, has repeatedly been offered by the U.S. as an example of the growing independence of the Iraqi military.

The competence of the Iraqi military has been cited as a key factor in when U.S. troops will be able to return home.

The battalion, according to the Pentagon, was downgraded from "level one" to "level two" after a recent quarterly assessment of its capabilities.

Though officials would not cite a specific reason for downgrading the unit, its readiness level has dropped in the wake of a new commander and numerous changes in the combat and support units, officials said.
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  -the Dems are "F**CKING NOWHERE" on Iraq welshTerrier2  Feb-25-06 09:28 AM   #0 
  - Politically right.  Coastie for Truth   Feb-25-06 09:38 AM   #1 
  - you want facts on the ground?  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 09:41 AM   #2 
     - The Activists (like us on DU)  Coastie for Truth   Feb-25-06 10:55 AM   #10 
        - An Excellent Point, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-25-06 11:09 AM   #11 
           - "It does not matter if it is true or not"  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 12:05 PM   #15 
              - Life Is A Sad Business, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-25-06 12:13 PM   #17 
                 - from DU's home page ...  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 12:33 PM   #19 
                    - You Do Not Change Reality, Sir: Reality Changes You  The Magistrate   Feb-25-06 12:45 PM   #22 
  - Thanks for the broad brush.  ClassWarrior   Feb-25-06 09:47 AM   #3 
  - fair point, CW ...  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 10:16 AM   #8 
     - Just strikes me as the sensationalist banner headline on page one...  ClassWarrior   Feb-25-06 12:34 PM   #20 
  - Your post sounds very full of frustration  Gman   Feb-25-06 09:49 AM   #4 
  - I agree wholeheartedly, gman, it's not just lack of trying from Democrats.  Dunvegan   Feb-25-06 09:55 AM   #5 
  - i will blame the Democrats who keep funding the war  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 10:11 AM   #7 
     - All points well taken  Gman   Feb-25-06 11:24 AM   #12 
        - you're making a tragic assumption  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 11:54 AM   #13 
           - No, that does not fairly state my point...  Gman   Feb-25-06 04:00 PM   #25 
  - They've been on board all the time.  Stanchetalarooni   Feb-25-06 09:59 AM   #6 
  - They gave up their moral authority because they refuse to say the invasion  leesa   Feb-25-06 10:26 AM   #9 
  - What say we focus on winning in '06 before getting fixated on '08?  Shelor   Feb-25-06 11:55 AM   #14 
  - what say we focus on the war before playing political games?  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 12:07 PM   #16 
     - Oh really? If this thread.............  Shelor   Feb-25-06 12:49 PM   # 
        - the post is about the Dems and Iraq  welshTerrier2   Feb-25-06 12:56 PM   #24 
  - They are somewhere just not where you are.  Jim4Wes   Feb-25-06 12:23 PM   #18 
  - I'm hearing Repubs. taking MURTHA'S stance...  jenmito   Feb-25-06 12:36 PM   #21 
  - virtually all the Dems represent the status quo  leftofthedial   Feb-25-06 12:49 PM   #23 
  - Murtha gave the Dems some ammo and they ignored it  lyonn   Feb-25-06 05:35 PM   #26 
  - I can't wait until  thatsrightimirish   Feb-25-06 06:13 PM   #27 
  - Have you read many of General Clark's articles on Iraq?  larissa   Feb-25-06 06:21 PM   #28 
  - the problem with Clark's plan ...  welshTerrier2   Feb-26-06 10:42 AM   #31 
  - There is a plan in the works  wyldwolf   Feb-25-06 06:22 PM   #29 
     - not much of a plan  welshTerrier2   Feb-26-06 10:33 AM   #30 
        - well, when they ask for your approval, tell them your opinion.  wyldwolf   Feb-26-06 12:46 PM   #32 

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