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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:06 PM
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41. Many of us feel like surrendering at times ...
and this is obviously one of those times.
However, I see no remedy for the ailments of the Democratic Party which might be realized by joining an even smaller minority party.

We need to elect better Democrats. Just saying you're a Democratic candidate isn't good enough any longer. Perhaps we've failed in the primary process while focusing upon the general elections. We have too many DINOs for starters. And, one would certainly have to have that "D" to select better candidates.

IMO, we allowed the other party to get a decade head-start on us, and now we expect a sudden reversal of fortunes.
I suspect that our hope is in the House of Reps. The Senate is too far removed from the electorate. The seat owners are too entrenched. The effort to unseat is too expensive, and the staggered terms aren't advantageous for the purposes of quick change.
I won't be able to beat Hal Rogers (KY-5), but others will be able to do so with their congressmen.

I disagree with surrender, or whichever term one wants to use. There are but two parties, regardless of the claims otherwise.
The only choice is to fight as a Democrat. There are no moral victories when cornered, as we are.
If you leave the Democratic Party, that's one vote we won't have. You cannot convince me that the loss of a vote on our side is not a gain for the other.
Work for the House to save the Constitution - even if we never have the Executive power again.


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  -Today I'm leaving the Democratic party. I've been a Democrat since Mountainman  Feb-01-06 11:26 AM   #0 
  - Please. It is "Democratic Party", not "Democrat Party"  benburch   Feb-01-06 11:29 AM   #1 
  - I edited my post to Democratic Party, thanks  Mountainman   Feb-01-06 11:34 AM   #10 
     - seems like you'd have already known it is Democratic Party  Jeffersons Ghost   Feb-01-06 11:55 AM   #33 
  - Can you explain HOW we can accomplish the goals you note if we're  mzmolly   Feb-01-06 11:30 AM   #2 
  - Electing democrats hasn't worked so great lately either.  Yollam   Feb-01-06 11:33 AM   #7 
     - They are not in POWER. They are at the mercy of Republicans.  mzmolly   Feb-01-06 11:37 AM   #14 
        - A couple of years ago, I thought like you...  Yollam   Feb-01-06 11:45 AM   #20 
        - "stabbed in the back"  mzmolly   Feb-01-06 12:16 PM   #46 
           - I understand procedure but that is an excuse  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-01-06 12:41 PM   #50 
        - Why is it some people can't see the obvious?  calico1   Feb-01-06 11:46 AM   #21 
           - Exactly.  mzmolly   Feb-01-06 12:15 PM   #45 
           - I don't think we expect them to accomplish, or win.  Yollam   Feb-01-06 12:24 PM   #48 
  - I understand your reasons  mkultra   Feb-01-06 11:30 AM   #3 
  - Bye!  meegbear   Feb-01-06 11:32 AM   #4 
  - "These things must change"  JeffR   Feb-01-06 11:32 AM   #5 
  - DemocratIC Party n/t  calico1   Feb-01-06 11:32 AM   #6 
  - Ta ta....  MrBenchley   Feb-01-06 11:33 AM   #8 
  - Discouraged lately, too, but  Cloud Walker   Feb-01-06 11:34 AM   #9 
  - Bye bye gloom and doomer  sandnsea   Feb-01-06 11:34 AM   #11 
  - No surprised in the least  havocmom   Feb-01-06 11:34 AM   #12 
  - I feel like being none of the above  undergroundpanther   Feb-01-06 11:35 AM   #13 
  - I understand completely how you feel.  Dhalgren   Feb-01-06 11:40 AM   #15 
  - I totally agree, but I am going to wait and see who our candidate  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-01-06 11:43 AM   #16 
  - Oy vey.  William769   Feb-01-06 11:43 AM   #17 
  - Quitting is never the answer.  Debau2005   Feb-01-06 11:44 AM   #18 
  - It's not an unreasonable symbolic gesture.  amBushed   Feb-01-06 11:44 AM   #19 
  - as an independent you can vote for progressive Dems  katinmn   Feb-01-06 11:50 AM   #27 
  - Don't go away mad, just go away.  Neil Lisst   Feb-01-06 11:47 AM   #22 
  - America: Love it or leave it  katinmn   Feb-01-06 11:52 AM   #29 
  - Hello, I must be going  MrBenchley   Feb-01-06 11:56 AM   #35 
  - Thank you. When one announces he's leaving ...  Neil Lisst   Feb-01-06 12:05 PM   #40 
     - You will notice that so few of them ever really go.....  MrBenchley   Feb-01-06 12:22 PM   #47 
  - Your analogy is inapplicable  Neil Lisst   Feb-01-06 12:04 PM   #39 
  - Yeah, I don't get it either.  AZBlue   Feb-01-06 12:12 PM   #43 
  - As of yesterday afternoon  MuseRider   Feb-01-06 11:48 AM   #23 
  - It has been my observation that no loyal party member uses  kingofalldems   Feb-01-06 11:49 AM   #24 
  - Without a popular movement that's growing and developing a voice  clitzpah queen   Feb-01-06 11:50 AM   #25 
  - California has a modified closed primary - keep your options open  BrotherBuzz   Feb-01-06 11:50 AM   #26 
  - You could register republican and try to change that party  dmordue   Feb-01-06 11:51 AM   #28 
  - I don't equate leaving the Democratic party with quitting.  Contrary1   Feb-01-06 11:54 AM   #30 
  - I think we ALL feel like giving up from time to time; specially when.....  Double T   Feb-01-06 11:55 AM   #31 
  - BTW, this is Democratic Underground  kingofalldems   Feb-01-06 11:55 AM   #32 
  - btw its democratIC underground. NOT democrat underground  jonnyblitz   Feb-01-06 12:01 PM   #38 
  - I only have one question  Beacho   Feb-01-06 11:56 AM   #34 
  - Yes and it idid a hells of beans difference  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-01-06 12:46 PM   #52 
  - We got a majority of the Sen. Democrats to attempt to filibuster.  John Q. Citizen   Feb-01-06 11:58 AM   #36 
  - Look how hard we had to work to get them to do it!  MuseRider   Feb-01-06 12:14 PM   #44 
  - You should register as independent.  A Simple Game   Feb-01-06 12:00 PM   #37 
  - In California, it's classified as 'Decline to State'  BrotherBuzz   Feb-01-06 12:09 PM   #42 
  - Many of us feel like surrendering at times ...  jarab   Feb-01-06 12:06 PM   #41 
  - Understandable...  MrPrax   Feb-01-06 12:39 PM   #49 
  - Remember as an Indie yuo can vote in the  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-01-06 12:43 PM   #51 
  - Locking  Skinner   Feb-01-06 12:47 PM   #53 

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