| 118. I guess the part where the Hopkins professor had the code |
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and performed a public study on it, and slammed diebole as being amatuerish. I sort of interpreted that as meaning that the code was availible, and that Diebold, the owner of the code, must have been the one who allowed it to be study. Or, a prominet researcher at a prestigious university stole the code, and then conducted a public study on it.
Which one is it, in your humble opinion?
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| -Enough with "stolen" elections already. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:02 AM |
#0 |
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"do some research" - indeed |
rman |
Jan-31-06 08:05 AM |
#1 |
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INDEED, some of us have been very involved and are very aware of |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:05 AM |
#117 |
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Some light reading for you by a conservative Republican |
helderheid |
Jan-31-06 11:14 AM |
#175 |
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Yep, silly partisan, oops no he is Republican. I have seen this, it is |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 11:18 AM |
#178 |
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NO KIDDING! |
helderheid |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#170 |
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OK, you keep believing your pipe dream |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-31-06 08:05 AM |
#2 |
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A lot of us don't buy the hype on Diebold... |
yibbehobba |
Jan-31-06 08:06 AM |
#3 |
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heh? |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:08 AM |
#6 |
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I'm in that category |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#15 |
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Not unsubstantiated. Just un-paid attention to. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#29 |
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Says who, you? |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 08:46 AM |
#56 |
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Just Keep Your Head In the Sand and It Will All Be Fine! |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:29 AM |
#83 |
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Just keep crying wolf |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
# |
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Try Educating Yourself Instead of Name Calling |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:45 AM |
#98 |
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try reading what I wrote. |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 09:53 AM |
#106 |
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How about proof of fraud ? |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:40 AM |
#92 |
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Do you have the pre-electronic stats? |
FormerRushFan |
Jan-31-06 10:38 AM |
#149 |
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Certifications are important legal documents. |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:58 AM |
#160 |
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Anyone remember the U of Penn. report? 1 million to 1. |
peabody71 |
Jan-31-06 11:30 AM |
#182 |
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I'd like to find some of those technical errors |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:04 AM |
#115 |
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There's overwhelming evidence of all kinds. |
Stevepol |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#153 |
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are you also a statistician and mathematician? |
annabanana |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#155 |
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If you've actually "read all the 'evidence' presented" as you claim... |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-06 11:26 AM |
#181 |
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I altered the vote tally using Diebold software (GEMS) on my own PC |
kgfnally |
Jan-31-06 11:17 AM |
#177 |
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Do you really trust this administration? |
Marleyb |
Jan-31-06 09:38 AM |
#88 |
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Silly US for believing some elections were stolen , we and members of |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:10 AM |
#124 |
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Like the State of California Who Had Diebold Machines Decertified? |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:14 AM |
#133 |
| -
Uh oh, get ready for the flames... |
vi5 |
Jan-31-06 08:06 AM |
#4 |
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It's one thing to say that we should try in spite of election fraud, |
rman |
Jan-31-06 08:09 AM |
#7 |
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But it's become a catch all excuse for everything.... |
vi5 |
Jan-31-06 08:27 AM |
#36 |
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Maybe where there is fire, there is smoke and big Smokescreens |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:13 AM |
#131 |
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Dude... You Are Way Out of the Loop |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:07 AM |
#5 |
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You're kidding, aren't you? n/t |
rooboy |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#8 |
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You are absolutely, 100% correct... |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#9 |
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"...every loon from the "election reform" forum..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#18 |
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Uhhh, yeah, I pretty much discount it completely. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:24 AM |
#33 |
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"If there was proof there would be indictments,..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:25 AM |
#34 |
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When the name-calling starts I've assumed you ran out of gas. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:27 AM |
#35 |
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Your the one who called other DUers "loons". |
Cobalt Violet |
Jan-31-06 08:31 AM |
#41 |
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Yeah, good point. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:32 AM |
#43 |
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No, I'm not from the "election reform" forum, in fact |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:35 AM |
#46 |
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"If there had been a stolen election, there'd be indictments." |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 09:53 AM |
#105 |
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Scott Peterson was convicted on CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:08 AM |
#121 |
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Fitzgerald went up against the administration. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:18 AM |
#138 |
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I mention "circumstantial" and you say "tons of hard evidence." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:29 AM |
# |
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uhhh, "tons of hard evidence" comes directly from your post. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:35 AM |
#146 |
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So, if a crime goes unanswered for, it didn't happen? |
havocmom |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#48 |
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If there's no proof that a crime took place, was there a crime? |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 09:55 AM |
#108 |
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And I'm Sure We Could All Watch The Story On the Evening News |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:33 AM |
#85 |
| -
Wow, what naivete. |
EOTE |
Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#129 |
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Polls as evidence? You're kidding, I hope. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:33 AM |
#145 |
| -
One more time: We don't need to prove that the 04 election WAS |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:17 AM |
#137 |
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Every loon from the "election reform" forum? |
fasttense |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#24 |
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LOON? You call individuals who volunteer w/o pay who are interested in |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#49 |
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Just warning you. I hope YOU have looked at the research! Be prepared |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#10 |
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Bring it...... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:13 AM |
#14 |
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Wishful thinking? |
yibbehobba |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#19 |
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"...nearly every state has the right and duty to examine all software..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#27 |
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I can fathom. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 08:45 AM |
#54 |
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self-delete |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:51 AM |
#60 |
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Apparently I am not being clear enough in my posts. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 09:17 AM |
#72 |
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That's why I self deleted! |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#81 |
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Not a problem. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 10:21 AM |
#141 |
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Which States Used Diebold? Here's your answer. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:13 AM |
#69 |
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So - You Think That Was the Only Problem In Ohio Bud? |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
#96 |
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So.....we can admit it wasn't diebold...bub? |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#101 |
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Lots of Problems Like Diebold Also Made the Tabulators |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:43 AM |
#151 |
| -
And who provided the tabulators? This is a multi-layered thing. |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:03 AM |
#163 |
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They all had access to the source code. Here's a link. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:00 AM |
#64 |
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Next? |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:16 AM |
#71 |
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Don't talk to me about the truth. You're too worried about the |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:26 AM |
#79 |
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No. |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:35 AM |
#87 |
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Haha BUSTED! |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
#89 |
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I never called you loons. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#94 |
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Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
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Oh no. Exposed. Golly. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:55 AM |
#109 |
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Jan-31-06 10:03 AM |
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There are rules on this board. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#126 |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#135 |
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Well then you just broke two DU rules - you might want to look those up |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:40 AM |
#150 |
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Really? |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:00 AM |
#161 |
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I never called you loons. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#95 |
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"They" all had access to the source code. Where Does it Say That? |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#82 |
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IN the article, |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:46 AM |
#99 |
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Not next. |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:58 AM |
#111 |
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I know. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:19 AM |
#140 |
| -
"It's hard to find resources." |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#164 |
| -
Calm down..... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:10 AM |
#169 |
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You're talking in circles! If you were on the Diebold payroll your |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 11:25 AM |
#180 |
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Jan-31-06 09:59 AM |
#112 |
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I put a question mark next to it, you maniac. Get a life. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:13 AM |
#132 |
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Ha, ha! I'd advise you to look up |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#134 |
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"every state has the right and duty to examine all software". HUH? |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#31 |
| -
Examine the statutes. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:02 AM |
#67 |
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Where in this article does it say Diebold made the source code public |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:17 AM |
#73 |
| -
Where does this article state that Diebold made the code available? |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:18 AM |
#74 |
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I guess the part where the Hopkins professor had the code |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:06 AM |
#118 |
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The code was inadvertantly left on the internet by Diebold and |
truckin |
Jan-31-06 10:31 AM |
#144 |
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Thanks, good to know. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:36 AM |
#147 |
| -
Yes and no.... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:03 AM |
#114 |
| -
try this, it comes from a precinct by precinct analysis. |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#102 |
| -
Whatever.....I for one would like voter verification...paper trail |
Toots |
Jan-31-06 08:11 AM |
#11 |
| -
I can barely use email....I figured out recently how to get messages off |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:12 AM |
#12 |
| -
I understand it perfectly. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:31 AM |
#40 |
| -
You know what? I am a religion major---I don't understand computers, |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:45 AM |
#55 |
| -
You Don't Understand Shit |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:54 AM |
#61 |
| -
Next. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:37 AM |
#148 |
| -
Great idea! |
SeattleRob |
Jan-31-06 08:12 AM |
#13 |
| -
The diebold crowd has catchy slogans, no substance. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#17 |
| -
You want "facts" spoon fed to you |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:17 AM |
#22 |
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Not as harmful as the crap that "diebold" crowd shovels. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:34 AM |
#44 |
| -
"No one will give me simple facts, just talking points." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:22 AM |
#77 |
| -
Ahhh, "talking points". The preferred rebuttal tactic |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 10:48 AM |
#152 |
| -
This is a really productive argument/debate. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:56 AM |
#159 |
| -
No fantasy, just numbers |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:01 AM |
#113 |
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He does not want to do research. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 08:51 AM |
#59 |
| -
Facts |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:57 AM |
#110 |
| -
Be very afraid of electronic computerized voting with no paper trail |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#16 |
| -
Fear is a Republican tool. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:17 AM |
#21 |
| -
if you've been following the papers |
Bob3 |
Jan-31-06 08:50 AM |
#58 |
| -
Yikes! Don't you know - |
lynne |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#20 |
| -
Election Fraud does not just include Diebold |
dogday |
Jan-31-06 08:18 AM |
#23 |
| -
I'm only talking about Diebold. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:42 AM |
#51 |
| -
how do *you* explain the huge difference in the exit polls? |
kineta |
Jan-31-06 09:35 AM |
#86 |
| -
Well, maybe not all elections |
chefgirl |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#25 |
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That's easy |
guruoo |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#26 |
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Check out this website - votefraud.org |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
# |
| -
I don't think there's EVER been a "fair" presidential election. |
Bruce McAuley |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#28 |
| -
And you would like people to believe they can win; now that is a pipe |
lonestarnot |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#30 |
| -
I agree |
meisje |
Jan-31-06 08:23 AM |
#32 |
| -
How many more elections do they need to steal for you to believe it? |
Cobalt Violet |
Jan-31-06 08:28 AM |
#37 |
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You're kidding right? Have you read the FL and OH chronicles? |
linazelle |
Jan-31-06 08:28 AM |
#38 |
| -
How many times have we heard about this: |
zbdent |
Jan-31-06 08:30 AM |
#39 |
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Stolen elections are so much more than Diebld. Educate yourself! |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 08:32 AM |
#42 |
| -
"Diebold" had become a generic term, like "xerox." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:44 AM |
#52 |
| -
One does not negate the other |
JHB |
Jan-31-06 08:35 AM |
#45 |
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Read "What Went Wrong in Ohio" |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#47 |
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but it doesn't say the election was stolen |
Cocoa |
Jan-31-06 09:14 AM |
#70 |
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It doesn't say it wasn't, either |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 09:31 AM |
#84 |
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the BBVers has nothing to do with the Conyers report |
Cocoa |
Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
#97 |
| -
What Went Wrong in Ohio |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#136 |
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My Straightforward Take |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 08:42 AM |
#50 |
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It takes far more "cleverness" to orchestrate the thoughts of millions |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:48 AM |
#57 |
| -
Whatever |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 08:58 AM |
#62 |
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Preach it, Atman! Common frickin' sense! Woo Hoo! nt |
IdaBriggs |
Jan-31-06 09:00 AM |
#65 |
| -
Huh? |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 09:20 AM |
#76 |
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Here is the fault in your argument...the republicans do it all the time... |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:48 AM |
#103 |
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please read mark crispin millers book, prof. |
mopinko |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
#90 |
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No conjecture, just numbers... |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:10 AM |
#123 |
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American jurisprudence still allows you believe a crime was |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:23 AM |
#179 |
| -
The Titanic is unsinkable. n/t |
8643 |
Jan-31-06 08:44 AM |
#53 |
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Please go read this thread -- |
IdaBriggs |
Jan-31-06 08:59 AM |
#63 |
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Jan-31-06 09:01 AM |
#66 |
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I did the same. These are disruptors, not interested in forward progress |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#80 |
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I beleive you both just violated a rule |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:51 AM |
#156 |
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It is a real issue.... |
Not_So_Right_Wing |
Jan-31-06 09:25 AM |
#78 |
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*sigh* Lets just win? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-31-06 09:07 AM |
#68 |
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VA, CA and NJ 05. It may be an uphill battle, but we can win elections.nt |
skipos |
Jan-31-06 09:20 AM |
#75 |
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You drank the KoolAid or something, imo. |
bobthedrummer |
Jan-31-06 09:40 AM |
#91 |
| -
Get a Clue |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#93 |
| -
Yeah, but...but...CBS ran a story about Diebold 2 years ago! |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:06 AM |
#119 |
| -
lemme draw you a picture, dear - as I can't change my handle |
robbedvoter |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#100 |
| -
Bravo! This "stolen election" excuse is the most counterproductive |
mtnsnake |
Jan-31-06 09:52 AM |
#104 |
| -
"let's just win" - the hugh series slogan! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-31-06 09:54 AM |
#107 |
| -
Your not to bright!!!!, just ignore the stolen elections... |
libertypirate |
Jan-31-06 10:04 AM |
#116 |
| -
Ill Nominate Too !! But not for your reason |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#125 |
| -
Whoa this belongs up a thread or 2. |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#127 |
| -
Is that you're not too bright or your not to bright? |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:54 AM |
#157 |
| -
20 Amazing Facts about Voting in the USA |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:07 AM |
#120 |
| -
Thank you. |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:30 AM |
#183 |
| -
This is a joke right. Read whats out there... |
LeftNYC |
Jan-31-06 10:09 AM |
#122 |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#128 |
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Let's Just Stick Our Head In The Sand |
otohara |
Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#130 |
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wixomblues, you've offered nothing to support your argument. |
plasticsundance |
Jan-31-06 10:19 AM |
#139 |
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Here's my proof. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#166 |
| -
The rest of that site indicates that voting "problems" are a real danger. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-31-06 11:17 AM |
#176 |
| -
thank you |
annabanana |
Jan-31-06 11:07 AM |
#168 |
| -
THANK YOU! THis place is starting to look just like what the freakers |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:29 AM |
#142 |
| -
I want to ask you, |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#154 |
| -
One more thing... |
George Oilwellian |
Jan-31-06 10:31 AM |
#143 |
| -
You're right and you're wrong. |
Yollam |
Jan-31-06 10:55 AM |
#158 |
| -
looks like this is one of the many RW memes now being planted |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-31-06 11:01 AM |
#162 |
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Everyone is wrong but you. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:07 AM |
#167 |
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devote most of your waking hours to it for months & years, as |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#172 |
| -
Have you looked at this yet |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#173 |
| -
sounds like you need to "do some research." |
leftofthedial |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#165 |
| -
It's all about the TRANSPARENCY. |
Lars39 |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#171 |
| -
Elections can be stolen without Diebold machines... |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-31-06 11:13 AM |
#174 |
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I agree 100% nt |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-31-06 11:32 AM |
#184 |
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**Want to know what I don't understand?** |
grace0418 |
Jan-31-06 11:34 AM |
#185 |
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How the fuck did this piece of crap thread get 9 votes??? |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-06 11:34 AM |
#186 |
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Locking... |
Moderator |
Jan-31-06 11:37 AM |
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