| 63. Please go read this thread -- |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... I get tired of having the same conversation over and over again. Election fraud is a real issue. Programmers have already come forward and testified that they helped perpetrate it, and Conyers put out a 114 page report on Ohio alone. Its a little bit like racism; everyone knows about it, but actually DOING something about it is difficult.
|
| -Enough with "stolen" elections already. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:02 AM |
#0 |
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"do some research" - indeed |
rman |
Jan-31-06 08:05 AM |
#1 |
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INDEED, some of us have been very involved and are very aware of |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:05 AM |
#117 |
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Some light reading for you by a conservative Republican |
helderheid |
Jan-31-06 11:14 AM |
#175 |
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Yep, silly partisan, oops no he is Republican. I have seen this, it is |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 11:18 AM |
#178 |
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NO KIDDING! |
helderheid |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#170 |
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OK, you keep believing your pipe dream |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-31-06 08:05 AM |
#2 |
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A lot of us don't buy the hype on Diebold... |
yibbehobba |
Jan-31-06 08:06 AM |
#3 |
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heh? |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:08 AM |
#6 |
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I'm in that category |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#15 |
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Not unsubstantiated. Just un-paid attention to. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#29 |
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Says who, you? |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 08:46 AM |
#56 |
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Just Keep Your Head In the Sand and It Will All Be Fine! |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:29 AM |
#83 |
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Just keep crying wolf |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
# |
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Try Educating Yourself Instead of Name Calling |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:45 AM |
#98 |
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try reading what I wrote. |
danalytical |
Jan-31-06 09:53 AM |
#106 |
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How about proof of fraud ? |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:40 AM |
#92 |
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Do you have the pre-electronic stats? |
FormerRushFan |
Jan-31-06 10:38 AM |
#149 |
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Certifications are important legal documents. |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:58 AM |
#160 |
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Anyone remember the U of Penn. report? 1 million to 1. |
peabody71 |
Jan-31-06 11:30 AM |
#182 |
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I'd like to find some of those technical errors |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:04 AM |
#115 |
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There's overwhelming evidence of all kinds. |
Stevepol |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#153 |
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are you also a statistician and mathematician? |
annabanana |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#155 |
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If you've actually "read all the 'evidence' presented" as you claim... |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-06 11:26 AM |
#181 |
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I altered the vote tally using Diebold software (GEMS) on my own PC |
kgfnally |
Jan-31-06 11:17 AM |
#177 |
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Do you really trust this administration? |
Marleyb |
Jan-31-06 09:38 AM |
#88 |
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Silly US for believing some elections were stolen , we and members of |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:10 AM |
#124 |
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Like the State of California Who Had Diebold Machines Decertified? |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:14 AM |
#133 |
| -
Uh oh, get ready for the flames... |
vi5 |
Jan-31-06 08:06 AM |
#4 |
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It's one thing to say that we should try in spite of election fraud, |
rman |
Jan-31-06 08:09 AM |
#7 |
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But it's become a catch all excuse for everything.... |
vi5 |
Jan-31-06 08:27 AM |
#36 |
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Maybe where there is fire, there is smoke and big Smokescreens |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:13 AM |
#131 |
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Dude... You Are Way Out of the Loop |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:07 AM |
#5 |
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You're kidding, aren't you? n/t |
rooboy |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#8 |
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You are absolutely, 100% correct... |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#9 |
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"...every loon from the "election reform" forum..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#18 |
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Uhhh, yeah, I pretty much discount it completely. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:24 AM |
#33 |
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"If there was proof there would be indictments,..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:25 AM |
#34 |
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When the name-calling starts I've assumed you ran out of gas. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:27 AM |
#35 |
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Your the one who called other DUers "loons". |
Cobalt Violet |
Jan-31-06 08:31 AM |
#41 |
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Yeah, good point. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 08:32 AM |
#43 |
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No, I'm not from the "election reform" forum, in fact |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:35 AM |
#46 |
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"If there had been a stolen election, there'd be indictments." |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 09:53 AM |
#105 |
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Scott Peterson was convicted on CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:08 AM |
#121 |
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Fitzgerald went up against the administration. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:18 AM |
#138 |
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I mention "circumstantial" and you say "tons of hard evidence." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:29 AM |
# |
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uhhh, "tons of hard evidence" comes directly from your post. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:35 AM |
#146 |
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So, if a crime goes unanswered for, it didn't happen? |
havocmom |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#48 |
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If there's no proof that a crime took place, was there a crime? |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 09:55 AM |
#108 |
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And I'm Sure We Could All Watch The Story On the Evening News |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:33 AM |
#85 |
| -
Wow, what naivete. |
EOTE |
Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#129 |
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Polls as evidence? You're kidding, I hope. |
Balbus |
Jan-31-06 10:33 AM |
#145 |
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One more time: We don't need to prove that the 04 election WAS |
Humor_In_Cuneiform |
Jan-31-06 10:17 AM |
#137 |
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Every loon from the "election reform" forum? |
fasttense |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#24 |
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LOON? You call individuals who volunteer w/o pay who are interested in |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#49 |
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Just warning you. I hope YOU have looked at the research! Be prepared |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:10 AM |
#10 |
| -
Bring it...... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:13 AM |
#14 |
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Wishful thinking? |
yibbehobba |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#19 |
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"...nearly every state has the right and duty to examine all software..." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#27 |
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I can fathom. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 08:45 AM |
#54 |
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self-delete |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:51 AM |
#60 |
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Apparently I am not being clear enough in my posts. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 09:17 AM |
#72 |
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That's why I self deleted! |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#81 |
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Not a problem. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 10:21 AM |
#141 |
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Which States Used Diebold? Here's your answer. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:13 AM |
#69 |
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So - You Think That Was the Only Problem In Ohio Bud? |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
#96 |
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So.....we can admit it wasn't diebold...bub? |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#101 |
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Lots of Problems Like Diebold Also Made the Tabulators |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:43 AM |
#151 |
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And who provided the tabulators? This is a multi-layered thing. |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:03 AM |
#163 |
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They all had access to the source code. Here's a link. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:00 AM |
#64 |
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Next? |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:16 AM |
#71 |
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Don't talk to me about the truth. You're too worried about the |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:26 AM |
#79 |
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No. |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:35 AM |
#87 |
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Haha BUSTED! |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
#89 |
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I never called you loons. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#94 |
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Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
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Oh no. Exposed. Golly. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:55 AM |
#109 |
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Jan-31-06 10:03 AM |
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There are rules on this board. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#126 |
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Deleted message |
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Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#135 |
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Well then you just broke two DU rules - you might want to look those up |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:40 AM |
#150 |
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Really? |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:00 AM |
#161 |
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I never called you loons. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#95 |
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"They" all had access to the source code. Where Does it Say That? |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#82 |
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IN the article, |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:46 AM |
#99 |
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Not next. |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:58 AM |
#111 |
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I know. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:19 AM |
#140 |
| -
"It's hard to find resources." |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#164 |
| -
Calm down..... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:10 AM |
#169 |
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You're talking in circles! If you were on the Diebold payroll your |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 11:25 AM |
#180 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-31-06 09:59 AM |
#112 |
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I put a question mark next to it, you maniac. Get a life. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:13 AM |
#132 |
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Ha, ha! I'd advise you to look up |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#134 |
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"every state has the right and duty to examine all software". HUH? |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#31 |
| -
Examine the statutes. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 09:02 AM |
#67 |
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Where in this article does it say Diebold made the source code public |
Verve |
Jan-31-06 09:17 AM |
#73 |
| -
Where does this article state that Diebold made the code available? |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:18 AM |
#74 |
| -
I guess the part where the Hopkins professor had the code |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:06 AM |
#118 |
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The code was inadvertantly left on the internet by Diebold and |
truckin |
Jan-31-06 10:31 AM |
#144 |
| -
Thanks, good to know. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:36 AM |
#147 |
| -
Yes and no.... |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:03 AM |
#114 |
| -
try this, it comes from a precinct by precinct analysis. |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#102 |
| -
Whatever.....I for one would like voter verification...paper trail |
Toots |
Jan-31-06 08:11 AM |
#11 |
| -
I can barely use email....I figured out recently how to get messages off |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:12 AM |
#12 |
| -
I understand it perfectly. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:31 AM |
#40 |
| -
You know what? I am a religion major---I don't understand computers, |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:45 AM |
#55 |
| -
You Don't Understand Shit |
stepnw1f |
Jan-31-06 08:54 AM |
#61 |
| -
Next. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:37 AM |
#148 |
| -
Great idea! |
SeattleRob |
Jan-31-06 08:12 AM |
#13 |
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The diebold crowd has catchy slogans, no substance. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#17 |
| -
You want "facts" spoon fed to you |
Thtwudbeme |
Jan-31-06 08:17 AM |
#22 |
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Not as harmful as the crap that "diebold" crowd shovels. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:34 AM |
#44 |
| -
"No one will give me simple facts, just talking points." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:22 AM |
#77 |
| -
Ahhh, "talking points". The preferred rebuttal tactic |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 10:48 AM |
#152 |
| -
This is a really productive argument/debate. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 10:56 AM |
#159 |
| -
No fantasy, just numbers |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:01 AM |
#113 |
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He does not want to do research. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-31-06 08:51 AM |
#59 |
| -
Facts |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 09:57 AM |
#110 |
| -
Be very afraid of electronic computerized voting with no paper trail |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 08:14 AM |
#16 |
| -
Fear is a Republican tool. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:17 AM |
#21 |
| -
if you've been following the papers |
Bob3 |
Jan-31-06 08:50 AM |
#58 |
| -
Yikes! Don't you know - |
lynne |
Jan-31-06 08:15 AM |
#20 |
| -
Election Fraud does not just include Diebold |
dogday |
Jan-31-06 08:18 AM |
#23 |
| -
I'm only talking about Diebold. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 08:42 AM |
#51 |
| -
how do *you* explain the huge difference in the exit polls? |
kineta |
Jan-31-06 09:35 AM |
#86 |
| -
Well, maybe not all elections |
chefgirl |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#25 |
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That's easy |
guruoo |
Jan-31-06 08:19 AM |
#26 |
| -
Check out this website - votefraud.org |
BushOut06 |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
# |
| -
I don't think there's EVER been a "fair" presidential election. |
Bruce McAuley |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#28 |
| -
And you would like people to believe they can win; now that is a pipe |
lonestarnot |
Jan-31-06 08:21 AM |
#30 |
| -
I agree |
meisje |
Jan-31-06 08:23 AM |
#32 |
| -
How many more elections do they need to steal for you to believe it? |
Cobalt Violet |
Jan-31-06 08:28 AM |
#37 |
| -
You're kidding right? Have you read the FL and OH chronicles? |
linazelle |
Jan-31-06 08:28 AM |
#38 |
| -
How many times have we heard about this: |
zbdent |
Jan-31-06 08:30 AM |
#39 |
| -
Stolen elections are so much more than Diebld. Educate yourself! |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 08:32 AM |
#42 |
| -
"Diebold" had become a generic term, like "xerox." |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:44 AM |
#52 |
| -
One does not negate the other |
JHB |
Jan-31-06 08:35 AM |
#45 |
| -
Read "What Went Wrong in Ohio" |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 08:36 AM |
#47 |
| -
but it doesn't say the election was stolen |
Cocoa |
Jan-31-06 09:14 AM |
#70 |
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It doesn't say it wasn't, either |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 09:31 AM |
#84 |
| -
the BBVers has nothing to do with the Conyers report |
Cocoa |
Jan-31-06 09:44 AM |
#97 |
| -
What Went Wrong in Ohio |
magellan |
Jan-31-06 10:15 AM |
#136 |
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My Straightforward Take |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 08:42 AM |
#50 |
| -
It takes far more "cleverness" to orchestrate the thoughts of millions |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 08:48 AM |
#57 |
| -
Whatever |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 08:58 AM |
#62 |
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Preach it, Atman! Common frickin' sense! Woo Hoo! nt |
IdaBriggs |
Jan-31-06 09:00 AM |
#65 |
| -
Huh? |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-31-06 09:20 AM |
#76 |
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Here is the fault in your argument...the republicans do it all the time... |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 09:48 AM |
#103 |
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please read mark crispin millers book, prof. |
mopinko |
Jan-31-06 09:39 AM |
#90 |
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No conjecture, just numbers... |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 10:10 AM |
#123 |
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American jurisprudence still allows you believe a crime was |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:23 AM |
#179 |
| -
The Titanic is unsinkable. n/t |
8643 |
Jan-31-06 08:44 AM |
#53 |
| -
Please go read this thread -- |
IdaBriggs |
Jan-31-06 08:59 AM |
#63 |
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Jan-31-06 09:01 AM |
#66 |
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I did the same. These are disruptors, not interested in forward progress |
mod mom |
Jan-31-06 09:27 AM |
#80 |
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I beleive you both just violated a rule |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:51 AM |
#156 |
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It is a real issue.... |
Not_So_Right_Wing |
Jan-31-06 09:25 AM |
#78 |
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*sigh* Lets just win? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-31-06 09:07 AM |
#68 |
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VA, CA and NJ 05. It may be an uphill battle, but we can win elections.nt |
skipos |
Jan-31-06 09:20 AM |
#75 |
| -
You drank the KoolAid or something, imo. |
bobthedrummer |
Jan-31-06 09:40 AM |
#91 |
| -
Get a Clue |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 09:42 AM |
#93 |
| -
Yeah, but...but...CBS ran a story about Diebold 2 years ago! |
Atman |
Jan-31-06 10:06 AM |
#119 |
| -
lemme draw you a picture, dear - as I can't change my handle |
robbedvoter |
Jan-31-06 09:47 AM |
#100 |
| -
Bravo! This "stolen election" excuse is the most counterproductive |
mtnsnake |
Jan-31-06 09:52 AM |
#104 |
| -
"let's just win" - the hugh series slogan! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-31-06 09:54 AM |
#107 |
| -
Your not to bright!!!!, just ignore the stolen elections... |
libertypirate |
Jan-31-06 10:04 AM |
#116 |
| -
Ill Nominate Too !! But not for your reason |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#125 |
| -
Whoa this belongs up a thread or 2. |
Twist_U_Up |
Jan-31-06 10:11 AM |
#127 |
| -
Is that you're not too bright or your not to bright? |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:54 AM |
#157 |
| -
20 Amazing Facts about Voting in the USA |
we can do it |
Jan-31-06 10:07 AM |
#120 |
| -
Thank you. |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-06 11:30 AM |
#183 |
| -
This is a joke right. Read whats out there... |
LeftNYC |
Jan-31-06 10:09 AM |
#122 |
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Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#128 |
| -
Let's Just Stick Our Head In The Sand |
otohara |
Jan-31-06 10:12 AM |
#130 |
| -
wixomblues, you've offered nothing to support your argument. |
plasticsundance |
Jan-31-06 10:19 AM |
#139 |
| -
Here's my proof. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#166 |
| -
The rest of that site indicates that voting "problems" are a real danger. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-31-06 11:17 AM |
#176 |
| -
thank you |
annabanana |
Jan-31-06 11:07 AM |
#168 |
| -
THANK YOU! THis place is starting to look just like what the freakers |
Veganistan |
Jan-31-06 10:29 AM |
#142 |
| -
I want to ask you, |
FlaGranny |
Jan-31-06 10:50 AM |
#154 |
| -
One more thing... |
George Oilwellian |
Jan-31-06 10:31 AM |
#143 |
| -
You're right and you're wrong. |
Yollam |
Jan-31-06 10:55 AM |
#158 |
| -
looks like this is one of the many RW memes now being planted |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-31-06 11:01 AM |
#162 |
| -
Everyone is wrong but you. |
wixomblues |
Jan-31-06 11:07 AM |
#167 |
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devote most of your waking hours to it for months & years, as |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#172 |
| -
Have you looked at this yet |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#173 |
| -
sounds like you need to "do some research." |
leftofthedial |
Jan-31-06 11:06 AM |
#165 |
| -
It's all about the TRANSPARENCY. |
Lars39 |
Jan-31-06 11:12 AM |
#171 |
| -
Elections can be stolen without Diebold machines... |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-31-06 11:13 AM |
#174 |
| -
I agree 100% nt |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-31-06 11:32 AM |
#184 |
| -
**Want to know what I don't understand?** |
grace0418 |
Jan-31-06 11:34 AM |
#185 |
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How the fuck did this piece of crap thread get 9 votes??? |
Cooley Hurd |
Jan-31-06 11:34 AM |
#186 |
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Locking... |
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