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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 10:57 PM
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36. So market forces don't exist?
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  -The Minimum Wage and The Movie, "Saturday Night Fever" Yavin4  Jan-28-06 08:29 PM   #0 
  - Yep, and the minimum wage had already dropped by about half  Warpy   Jan-28-06 08:33 PM   #1 
  - Actually, he would it would have gone up $2.65 an hour not $ 1.15  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 09:25 PM   #2 
  - Bingo!!  Jayhawk Lib   Jan-28-06 09:29 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-28-06 09:42 PM   #5 
     - Yeah, let's bring back the twelve hour work day, while we at it,  0007   Jan-28-06 09:50 PM   #8 
     - I already work 12 hours a day because I want to  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:01 PM   #13 
        - You can get ahead in life by NOT working 12 hour days also  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:14 PM   #19 
        - ahead of who? at what cost?  uncle ray   Jan-28-06 11:06 PM   #39 
        - That is a lie, the average worker in this country does not make  0007   Jan-29-06 06:41 AM   #49 
        - Who's doing these averages? I make several bucks less  raccoon   Jan-30-06 01:53 PM   #67 
     - In many expensive metro areas..no one pays minimum  formernaderite   Jan-28-06 10:49 PM   #32 
     - Construction has to pay well for people to do it  Nikia   Jan-28-06 11:21 PM   #41 
     - I have no problem with the payrate...just that young guys  formernaderite   Jan-29-06 10:53 PM   #63 
     - Physical labor... especially outdoor labor HAS to pay more  SoCalDem   Jan-29-06 03:18 AM   #47 
        - of course...but why doesn't it attract young fit guys?  formernaderite   Jan-29-06 10:55 PM   #64 
     - Well, if it's not relevant  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jan-30-06 01:51 PM   #66 
  - Please Explain Your Statement  Yavin4   Jan-28-06 09:37 PM   #4 
  - Minimum wage is a tool to suppress the the normal  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 09:57 PM   #11 
     - You really think..  Dhampir Kampf   Jan-28-06 10:04 PM   #14 
     - Strongly disagree.  raccoon   Jan-30-06 02:00 PM   #68 
     - "Market Forces" Arguments Always Carry A False Premise  Yavin4   Jan-28-06 10:07 PM   #16 
     - When I hear 'market forces', I think Milton Friedman, trickle-down  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:17 PM   #20 
     - I am charged with crimes  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:55 PM   #35 
        - Well, what specious economic theories do you ascribe to?  AllieB   Jan-29-06 10:43 AM   #51 
     - Response  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:22 PM   #23 
        - Unbelievably silly.  readmoreoften   Jan-28-06 10:55 PM   #34 
        - The Great God "Market Forces" decrees, among other things,  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-29-06 12:05 AM   #44 
        - Rebuttal  Yavin4   Jan-29-06 12:26 PM   #54 
     - Well, that sure worked great during the Depression, didn't it?  TahitiNut   Jan-28-06 10:28 PM   #25 
        - You said it better than I did!  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:33 PM   #27 
        - So market forces don't exist?  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:57 PM   #36 
        - Your second chart is almost meaningless.  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:35 PM   #28 
           - Again, you mention the $16 per hour canard  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:39 PM   #30 
              - See federal goverment  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 11:02 PM   #38 
                 - I just love it when folks trot out the myth of the average.  TahitiNut   Jan-28-06 11:36 PM   #42 
  - Depends on where you live...  misanthrope   Jan-28-06 09:49 PM   #7 
  - I agree, It's all about the area!  sheelz   Jan-28-06 10:21 PM   #22 
     - I'm sorry for your situation  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:26 PM   #24 
     - Thanks fo the support!  sheelz   Jan-28-06 10:54 PM   #33 
     - I understand this part...  misanthrope   Jan-28-06 11:56 PM   #43 
  - How does the minimum wage suppress wages?  AllieB   Jan-28-06 09:51 PM   #9 
  - You misquote me.  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:11 PM   #18 
     - You're not being realistic  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:21 PM   #21 
     - That simply is not the real world and you know that.  Poppyseedman   Jan-28-06 10:29 PM   #26 
        - I live in the real world, and I know FOR CERTAIN  AllieB   Jan-28-06 10:36 PM   #29 
           - Fan might be too strong a word.  Poppyseedman   Jan-29-06 09:23 AM   #50 
           - I call bullshit on a point of fact  ieoeja   Jan-30-06 02:02 PM   #69 
           - My only problem with what you're saying is  The Straight Story   Jan-29-06 06:29 PM   #61 
     - Well, they could always pay adult workers more than mw now  Nikia   Jan-28-06 11:00 PM   #37 
        - Not necessarily.  Xithras   Jan-30-06 02:26 PM   #70 
           - They will raise costs if necessary  Nikia   Jan-30-06 03:43 PM   #72 
           - How many exempt (salaried) employees at your avg JITB?  ieoeja   Jan-30-06 03:52 PM   #73 
              - I think most assistant managers are exempt  Nikia   Jan-30-06 05:37 PM   #75 
  - I think a lot of posters here don't understand Poppyseedman.  ieoeja   Jan-30-06 02:33 PM   #71 
  - Perhaps, but not necessarily  Southpawkicker   Jan-28-06 09:46 PM   #6 
  - Your Missing My Point  Yavin4   Jan-28-06 09:56 PM   #10 
  - No, I'm not missing your point  Southpawkicker   Jan-28-06 09:58 PM   #12 
     - Sadly..  Dhampir Kampf   Jan-28-06 10:07 PM   #15 
  - Stay in school? college?  readmoreoften   Jan-28-06 10:07 PM   #17 
     - I have a biology degree and want a different job  Nikia   Jan-28-06 11:07 PM   #40 
        - Oh yeah, the INTERNSHIP in college scam.  readmoreoften   Jan-29-06 01:11 AM   #46 
           - I worked in a paid internship in grad school  Southpawkicker   Jan-29-06 11:49 AM   #52 
           - How did she get one year of unemployment?  AllieB   Jan-29-06 12:11 PM   #53 
           - During Poppy's Term (Senior *) He kept signing extensions to  Southpawkicker   Jan-29-06 01:00 PM   #57 
           - I live in NYC and I can't do that.  readmoreoften   Jan-30-06 01:41 PM   #65 
              - Move  Southpawkicker   Jan-30-06 05:40 PM   #76 
           - That's why I didn't get an internship  Nikia   Jan-29-06 01:12 PM   #59 
           - Internship  RobinA   Jan-29-06 07:05 PM   #62 
  - Even if Tony coulda' made $45/hour. He didn't need to be mixin' paint....  alphafemale   Jan-28-06 10:41 PM   #31 
  - More on the buying power of the minimum wage  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-29-06 12:20 AM   #45 
  - In other words, everythign you actually *need* to live,  KitSileya   Jan-29-06 03:53 AM   #48 
  - I Want To Quote The Great American Philosopher, Chris Rock  Yavin4   Jan-29-06 12:42 PM   #55 
  - Spot on!  AllieB   Jan-29-06 01:05 PM   #58 
     - Really!  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-29-06 05:10 PM   #60 
  - 4 Bucks an hour in '78, huh?  OhioChick   Jan-29-06 12:57 PM   #56 
     - not quite right  onenote   Jan-30-06 04:19 PM   #74 
 

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