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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 03:52 PM
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24. I completely agree.
It doesn't prove guilt. It doesn't mean that any or all Democrats are involved.

It does, however, mean that a free gift was made (that was later reimbursed) and it is a connection between that lawmaker and Abramoff. That's not proof of guilt, but it's worthy of investigation (IMO).

The actual Senator involved in the situation in the hypothetical is a Democrat. All I changed was the name of the Senator (aside from the name, that's a real USA Today article). That's precisely why I take issue with the "Abramoff gave NO money to Dems" statement. There may have been absolutely no wrongdoing, but Abramoff HAS given "money" (in the form of a service) to at least one Democrat.
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  -What was that about Abramoff giving money to Democrats? GOPS Worst Fear  Jan-08-06 12:05 PM   #0 
  - None of the ILLEGAL donations went to Dems. None.  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 12:08 PM   #1 
  - No donations at all - legal or illegal - from Abramoff to Dems, NONE -  IndyOp   Jan-08-06 01:38 PM   #11 
  - KICK  ruggerson   Jan-08-06 01:41 PM   #12 
  - i don't think i've ever loved a list sooo much.  xchrom   Jan-08-06 12:08 PM   #2 
  - The MSM is looking at this scandal because of the  WCGreen   Jan-08-06 12:11 PM   #3 
  - Please don't call them "the MSM." There's nothing "mainstream"...  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 12:12 PM   #4 
     - aka: media whores ;)  eve_was_framed   Jan-08-06 12:15 PM   #5 
        - That works too.  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 12:18 PM   #7 
  - K & R!!!!!! Hugh1 Series111111  GrpCaptMandrake   Jan-08-06 12:17 PM   #6 
  - Kicketee/Recomendee  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-06 12:20 PM   #8 
  - Kicked and recommended  oldtime dfl_er   Jan-08-06 12:49 PM   #9 
  - Sam Brownback Kansas Senator got almost $45,000...list shows $500  OneTwentyoNine   Jan-08-06 12:58 PM   #10 
  - This came to me last night in an email  GOPS Worst Fear   Jan-08-06 02:17 PM   #13 
  - That's just a list of Abramoff's PERSONAL contributions. It's incomplete.  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 02:46 PM   #14 
  - Guess you didn't see Dr. Dean this morning?  AntiCoup2K4   Jan-08-06 02:51 PM   #15 
  - I'm a huge Dean supporter, but he and I occasionally disagree.  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 03:00 PM   #16 
  - OMG! thank you so much for that link  orleans   Jan-08-06 04:33 PM   #29 
  - If I represent you...  stillcool47   Jan-08-06 03:00 PM   #17 
  - Of course not.  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 03:03 PM   #18 
     - What services did Abramoff provide...  stillcool47   Jan-08-06 03:32 PM   #20 
        - Here's a hypothetical based on a real situation:  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 03:37 PM   #21 
           - and from that scenario....  stillcool47   Jan-08-06 03:44 PM   #23 
              - I completely agree.  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 03:52 PM   #24 
                 - A free gift was made...that was later reimbursed?  stillcool47   Jan-08-06 04:01 PM   #26 
                    - It was reimbursed in October 2005. When did Abramoff start talking?  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 04:13 PM   #28 
  - The Dems took LEGAL contributions from Jack's clients. The Cons did too...  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 03:44 PM   #22 
     - I'm not denying most of that...  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 03:56 PM   #25 
        - Dead end. The real scandal here isn't quid pro quo. That's wayyy...  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 04:02 PM   #27 
           - Well, the issue IS quid pro quo.....  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 05:04 PM   #31 
              - We'll see.  ClassWarrior   Jan-08-06 05:15 PM   #32 
                 - I hope they do.  MercutioATC   Jan-08-06 05:24 PM   #33 
  - Priceless.  nomatrix   Jan-08-06 03:11 PM   #19 
  - if you put together the first and last pages that equals one full  orleans   Jan-08-06 04:50 PM   #30 

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