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Sun Jan-08-06 11:22 AM
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| 2. The problems people are having with Lieberman are... |
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1. His continued vocal support for scrub in the war. 2. His vocal criticisms of other Senate Democrats and the Party leadership (esp Howard Dean) 3. As the Senate leadership tries to craft a Party Platform on the War, there's Joe to undermine it by taking an opposing position.
It is true he scores well on most issues esp the Environment, Civil Rights and Choice. But, since he seems to borrow the page from the Republicans on Iraq -- ie Everything is fine and getting better. Maybe he should borrow another page...Don't criticize fellow members. The Republicans in the Senate do not attack their own and their party.
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| -Liberals: Lieberman Is Not The Enemy |
spaniard |
Jan-08-06 11:15 AM |
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so maybe it was his kissing Bush that turned me off. |
bunny planet |
Jan-08-06 11:18 AM |
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The problems people are having with Lieberman are... |
rpannier |
Jan-08-06 11:22 AM |
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Yes, and I see Joementum's continued criticism of Dean as personal. |
bunny planet |
Jan-08-06 11:48 AM |
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I could also see the anger he tried to hide... |
butterfly77 |
Jan-08-06 04:12 PM |
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How could he have expected to |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-08-06 11:33 PM |
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even on Environment - he's not that great |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-08-06 10:47 PM |
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he supports an ongoing crime against humanity... |
mike_c |
Jan-08-06 11:22 AM |
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Ditto. The Iraq war is clearly a war crime in action. Anyone voicing |
leesa |
Jan-08-06 11:30 AM |
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Hmmm...yeah see the previous post. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-08-06 11:23 AM |
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Labels are irrelevant. |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 11:23 AM |
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Whatever his record, he's weakening us |
neoblues |
Jan-08-06 11:38 AM |
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Like Zell Miller wasn't the enemy |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-08-06 11:23 AM |
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But zell is as crazy as a loon. Lieberman is not. He deliberately supports |
antifaschits |
Jan-08-06 04:03 PM |
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Why does LIeberman go so far in saying 'we have to love Bush' |
chaumont58 |
Jan-08-06 11:26 AM |
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Because he pops up on the Sunday.. |
sendero |
Jan-08-06 11:27 AM |
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Democracy at its finest. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-08-06 11:28 AM |
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Lieberman is a neocon |
peace frog |
Jan-08-06 11:29 AM |
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Riiiiight... Fine, he's not a conservative according to the "index" |
yknot |
Jan-08-06 11:33 AM |
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He undermines other Democrats. |
dogman |
Jan-08-06 11:41 AM |
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sooo... we should dump Dems who have been critical of Dems - - |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 11:45 AM |
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Your lame attempt to put words in other peoples mouths.... |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 12:11 PM |
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It was neither lame nor an attempt to put words in anyone's mouth |
wyldwolf |
Jan-08-06 12:16 PM |
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Indeed, wyldwolf, and examples are numerous |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 12:19 PM |
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Let's see one example |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 12:21 PM |
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Are we limiting it to just this thread? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 12:31 PM |
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No, we are limiting it to Leiberman |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 01:09 PM |
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So any other Dem who exhibits the same traits can stay? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 01:36 PM |
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Name someone.. |
sendero |
Jan-08-06 01:48 PM |
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so we have some sort of scale to measure "toolness?" |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 01:59 PM |
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hey.. |
sendero |
Jan-08-06 10:05 PM |
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Join up to scold us did you? |
TankLV |
Jan-09-06 12:15 AM |
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You keep repeating the same thing over and over. |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 02:25 PM |
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when the same people keep avoiding answering, I'll repeat the question |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 02:26 PM |
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It isn't a difficult question |
wyldwolf |
Jan-08-06 02:32 PM |
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Leiberman is the only Dem who is the subject of this thread. |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 02:50 PM |
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well, that's true, so I guess your answer is that only Lieberman |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 02:55 PM |
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Once again, you don't get to say what my answers are. |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 03:14 PM |
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once again? When was the first time? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:18 PM |
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See my previous reply in post 48 |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 03:37 PM |
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I did. So when was the first time? And why not address the question? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:42 PM |
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You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is. |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 12:19 PM |
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well, since the point of the original linked article was dumping Lieberman |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 12:28 PM |
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could you please |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 01:11 PM |
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For the most part, yes. |
dogman |
Jan-08-06 02:52 PM |
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Howard Dean attacked Clark for being a Republican |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 02:56 PM |
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Do you have a point? What is it? |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 03:15 PM |
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it should be obvious, but I often overestimate the reasoning ability... |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:22 PM |
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He did not win the nomination either. |
dogman |
Jan-08-06 03:31 PM |
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that's true. He didn't win the nomination. |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:33 PM |
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Karma is not always immediate. |
dogman |
Jan-08-06 03:46 PM |
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Loyalty is a two way street. |
dogman |
Jan-08-06 02:28 PM |
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RIGHT ON!!! |
lillilbigone |
Jan-08-06 02:52 PM |
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I find this a reasonable position |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-08-06 06:40 PM |
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You're either against us or ... |
rock |
Jan-08-06 11:46 AM |
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averages are a funny thing, and rarely useful. |
mopinko |
Jan-08-06 11:54 AM |
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Lieberman is better than any repub, but I see no harm in challenging |
skipos |
Jan-08-06 11:57 AM |
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because he panders to this bastard pResident and his Republican pimps |
eve_was_framed |
Jan-08-06 12:18 PM |
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I like this answer the best. This answer best refutes the original post. |
No Exit |
Jan-08-06 10:13 PM |
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I was under the impression he voted for the bankruptcy bill |
JDPriestly |
Jan-08-06 12:22 PM |
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Because Democrats are humans like any other... |
Writer |
Jan-08-06 12:28 PM |
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Lieberman is the enemy. He is the traitor within! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-08-06 12:46 PM |
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New Republic supports the DLC and endorsed Lieberman for 2004 |
IChing |
Jan-08-06 01:02 PM |
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not that I'm denying your points, but remember one thing |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 01:40 PM |
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go away, I went to their references also to find where they stood. |
IChing |
Jan-08-06 02:21 PM |
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ok. But before I go, maybe you could show us those references |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 02:25 PM |
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Will you accept TNR's own website? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-08-06 09:45 PM |
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Wikipedia survives research test BBC |
IChing |
Jan-08-06 02:38 PM |
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so, the references you used were wikipedia and commondreams? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 02:54 PM |
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Another link |
IChing |
Jan-08-06 03:01 PM |
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KOS? |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:06 PM |
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Good for you. |
democracyindanger |
Jan-08-06 03:14 PM |
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on the contrary. I did read it. And we weren't discussing Iraq |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:25 PM |
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Peas in a pod. |
democracyindanger |
Jan-08-06 03:34 PM |
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yes indeed, peas in a pod |
Moderate Donkey |
Jan-08-06 03:36 PM |
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Lieberman is Solely Responsible for Dismissing his own "Liberal" Record |
radio4progressives |
Jan-08-06 01:56 PM |
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His |
thatsrightimirish |
Jan-08-06 02:00 PM |
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Welcome to DU, thatsrightimirish! nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-08-06 07:18 PM |
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I disagree, With Lieberman his actios speak for themselves and he needs |
Imagevision |
Jan-08-06 02:30 PM |
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Even the most generous liberals I know think JL's jumped ship. |
BlueIris |
Jan-08-06 03:33 PM |
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Jan-08-06 04:04 PM |
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.... |
jonnyblitz |
Jan-08-06 07:20 PM |
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Jan-08-06 07:26 PM |
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While I agree that we should focus on something else |
Nutmegger |
Jan-08-06 07:33 PM |
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'Tis the way Lieberman pucker's his lips and goes along with |
0007 |
Jan-08-06 07:35 PM |
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sorry to differ, but yes, he is the enemy... he sided with Bush against |
blossomstar |
Jan-08-06 10:07 PM |
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I feel the biggest 'crime'.... |
unkachuck |
Jan-08-06 10:08 PM |
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thank you for the good laugh... he really is ugly! |
blossomstar |
Jan-08-06 10:10 PM |
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Jan-08-06 11:00 PM |
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I noticed. Glad I'm not the only one! |
WakeMeUp |
Jan-08-06 11:08 PM |
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LOL. He ran!!! |
Rainscents |
Jan-08-06 11:20 PM |
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Lieberman on the Environment, Iraq and other Dems |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-08-06 11:14 PM |
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Wow, a the sweet smell of sanity on DU is most refreshing. eom |
Clarkie1 |
Jan-08-06 11:24 PM |
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Jan-09-06 12:07 AM |
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Lieberman sees his pro Iraq War stance as a pro-Israel stance |
wiley |
Jan-09-06 12:18 AM |
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Nothing to discuss,... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-09-06 12:43 AM |
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Saying the statement is not factual is discussion |
wiley |
Jan-09-06 12:58 AM |
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No merit. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-09-06 01:18 AM |
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No, Lieberman is not the enemy, |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-09-06 01:04 AM |
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