Hyernel
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Tue Jan-03-06 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #46 |
| 49. It's not that the "religious left" is extreme... |
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...but the mechanism (belief in a non-existant deity) is there just waiting for some clever manipulator to steer them towards corrupt ends, whether it's the lust for political power (what the GOP has done) or the lust for money (what so many asinine evangelical preachers have done.
Once you have demonstrated your willingness to reject reality in favor of a fantasy...for whatever reason...you become a tool for one type of evil, or another.
The Left should be dedicated to building a society based on what actually is -- not what one wishes was. Reason....not the mind slavery of Religion.
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| -religious left will only replicate the misdeeds of the religious right. |
dajoki |
Jan-02-06 09:58 PM |
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I see a difference. |
madeline_con |
Jan-02-06 10:03 PM |
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There in is lies the problem |
RC |
Jan-02-06 10:05 PM |
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No true Scotsman... |
Dongfang Hong |
Jan-04-06 01:27 PM |
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if it is kept out of politics... |
dajoki |
Jan-02-06 10:18 PM |
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Fair enough. |
madeline_con |
Jan-02-06 10:27 PM |
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i agree n/t |
dajoki |
Jan-02-06 10:28 PM |
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Some Christians already advocate separation of Church & State |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-04-06 11:03 AM |
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yeah, that would be unbearable |
TheFarseer |
Jan-04-06 12:59 PM |
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Have you ever been in a black pentecostal church? |
formernaderite |
Jan-03-06 09:39 AM |
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I disagree |
Charlie Brown |
Jan-02-06 10:07 PM |
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But, as has been pointed out to me... |
madeline_con |
Jan-02-06 10:29 PM |
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That is why we have a Bill of Rights |
Charlie Brown |
Jan-02-06 11:01 PM |
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The bible is a source of religious inspiration. Using it for anything |
bluerum |
Jan-02-06 10:19 PM |
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MLK based most of his advocacy for social change on religious beliefs |
Charlie Brown |
Jan-02-06 11:16 PM |
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Spirituality and religion are not rational belief systems. Not that |
bluerum |
Jan-03-06 09:23 AM |
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There's a difference between living Christ's teachings... |
ih8thegop |
Jan-02-06 10:28 PM |
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Yes, but those who are presently doing a lot of shoving ... |
madeline_con |
Jan-02-06 10:31 PM |
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Yes, but just because THEY think they're right... |
ih8thegop |
Jan-03-06 12:21 PM |
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I disagree |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-02-06 10:33 PM |
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But the Religious Left....... |
NativeTexan |
Jan-02-06 10:36 PM |
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what's Joseph Leconte's record on criticizing the Christian Right? |
Cocoa |
Jan-02-06 10:39 PM |
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Bingo. He's transparent, isn't he? |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-04-06 05:50 PM |
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We shouldn't allow superstition from the left or the right to run |
ladjf |
Jan-02-06 10:46 PM |
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we should not... |
dajoki |
Jan-02-06 10:55 PM |
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Any belief that was formed by purely subjective processes is |
ladjf |
Jan-02-06 11:02 PM |
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whether valid or not... |
dajoki |
Jan-02-06 11:20 PM |
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I agree with your argument as it relates to the practicalities of |
ladjf |
Jan-02-06 11:23 PM |
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I only judge a belief system by the results. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-03-06 08:47 AM |
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Catholic... |
dajoki |
Jan-03-06 11:37 AM |
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I support any system that generally enhances quality of life over the |
ladjf |
Jan-03-06 12:28 PM |
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Religious left people are not theocratic extremist |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-02-06 11:02 PM |
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The political reality of your statement is true. I regret that it is. |
ladjf |
Jan-02-06 11:12 PM |
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But true (religious) compassion might well produce good government |
rman |
Jan-03-06 09:42 AM |
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absolutist dogma does not produce good government |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-04-06 02:03 PM |
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Depends how that superstition is used to run the country. |
rman |
Jan-03-06 09:37 AM |
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If christian nutjobs ever get any influence in the Democratic Party... |
Hyernel |
Jan-02-06 10:54 PM |
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Are you aware of the differences between the religious Right and - Left? |
rman |
Jan-03-06 09:46 AM |
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If you believe in a medieval supernatural cloud being... |
Hyernel |
Jan-03-06 11:51 AM |
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Does it not depend on how one acts on the belief? |
rman |
Jan-03-06 03:42 PM |
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then 94% of Americans are nutjobs???? |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-03-06 03:53 PM |
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Yes...Apparently 94% of Americans are intellectual cowards... |
Hyernel |
Jan-03-06 06:47 PM |
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what does that mean? |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 11:52 AM |
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Sounds a lot like Falwell, doesn't he? n/t |
QC |
Jan-04-06 05:57 PM |
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Hey , hey, HEY!! |
Hyernel |
Jan-04-06 10:28 PM |
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may god, or whatever name you want to put there save this world |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-04-06 11:55 PM |
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atheistic elitism? |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-04-06 12:23 PM |
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WOW!!! One of the best posts I have ever read on DU!!! I agree with you |
peacebaby3 |
Jan-04-06 05:36 PM |
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Thanks |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-04-06 08:28 PM |
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i agree with you... |
dajoki |
Jan-03-06 11:56 AM |
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How is the religious left extreme? |
rman |
Jan-03-06 03:43 PM |
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It's not that the "religious left" is extreme... |
Hyernel |
Jan-03-06 06:54 PM |
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I'm not so sure religious folks are more prone to corruption |
rman |
Jan-04-06 03:45 AM |
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You mean like math and science? |
The Straight Story |
Jan-04-06 05:35 PM |
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i wasn't necessarily... |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 11:48 AM |
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So your remark does not necessarily bear any relevancy to this discussion |
rman |
Jan-04-06 12:07 PM |
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any extreme... |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 12:35 PM |
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But it's a hypothetical (non-existent) extreme religious left? |
rman |
Jan-04-06 12:43 PM |
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if, in fact... |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 01:25 PM |
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Do you or do you not think the religious left is extreme? |
rman |
Jan-04-06 01:31 PM |
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i don't even know if there is a "religious left"... |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 01:46 PM |
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See the link in my sig |
rman |
Jan-04-06 01:55 PM |
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thank you very much... |
dajoki |
Jan-04-06 02:02 PM |
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I certainly hope all progressive people of faith always feel welcome |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-02-06 11:06 PM |
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As long as people like you are here, we do. |
Lerkfish |
Jan-02-06 11:09 PM |
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I have my problems with certain religious elements too |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-02-06 11:14 PM |
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here's the dilemna, as I see it: progressive christians believe in the |
Lerkfish |
Jan-02-06 11:06 PM |
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That was well-put. |
Ladyhawk |
Jan-04-06 01:54 PM |
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Joseph Loconte is a Fellow of the Heritage Foundation |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-03-06 09:00 AM |
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Good catch! n/t |
QC |
Jan-04-06 05:56 PM |
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wow...my brain stopped working after reading that one |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-04-06 11:08 PM |
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Good for her... |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Jan-03-06 09:12 AM |
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Sure, dwell on superficial similarities between the methods |
rman |
Jan-03-06 09:31 AM |
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Heritage Foundation guy, no wonder he's afraid |
TayTay |
Jan-03-06 09:35 AM |
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Spot on. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-04-06 05:51 PM |
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Everything I've read in the four gospels impels me be a Democrat. |
txaslftist |
Jan-03-06 12:00 PM |
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Baloney. When we draw from the Bible like that it's to get the Moral |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jan-03-06 12:24 PM |
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Read Slacktivist's take on Loconte |
AlabamaYankee |
Jan-04-06 11:04 AM |
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some people are simply not serious about building a progressive majority |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jan-04-06 12:33 PM |
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But the Democrats' "spending schemes" are for the benefit of |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-04-06 05:47 PM |
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We do not need more religion in politics |
alarimer |
Jan-04-06 09:17 PM |
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hooey. |
ulysses |
Jan-05-06 12:04 AM |
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