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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:13 AM
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51. Only someone who felt they had the left in their back pocket would feel
free to co-sponsor Bill Bennett's, R-UT, flag-burning bill, the Flag Protection Act. We supposedly have the first amendment to protect us from laws like this, don't we?

Excerpt from Hillary Clinton's statement regarding her co-sponsorship and support of Bennett's bill:

"As I have said in the past, I support federal legislation that would outlaw flag desecration, much like laws that currently prohibit the burning of crosses, but I don't believe a constitutional amendment is the answer.

Burning or destroying an American flag is a despicable act that disrespects the sacrifices of our brave veterans and soldiers who fought to protect the very freedom of speech that flag burners exploit.


Why do we need a Constitutional Amendment to ban flag burning if we pass a law that bans flag burning? The Supreme Court has ruled that flag burning is speech that is Constitutionally protected. Is this how Hillary Clinton would protect our Constitutional rights--by legislating them away?

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  -NYT: "Frustration on the Left Over Iraq Unlikely to Trouble Clinton" flpoljunkie  Dec-29-05 04:41 PM   #0 
  - Umm Ok  OhioBlues   Dec-29-05 04:43 PM   #1 
  - Most "centrist Democrats" think the war is bullshit too  bluestateguy   Dec-29-05 04:57 PM   #8 
     - I wonder why she would be so stubborn  OhioBlues   Dec-29-05 05:32 PM   #13 
     - because in order to win she'll need more than 49%  formernaderite   Dec-29-05 05:39 PM   #16 
     - Maybe she knows there's a coming war with Iran or something else  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 08:15 PM   #28 
        - But Hillary isn't Bill.  Clark2008   Dec-30-05 08:27 AM   #53 
           - Sometimes I wonder ...  Andromeda   Dec-30-05 07:02 PM   #77 
     - Former Independent-turned-Moderate Democrat here!  Clark2008   Dec-30-05 08:25 AM   #52 
     - "Centrist Democrats " is code  Capn Sunshine   Dec-30-05 07:40 PM   #81 
  - These are merely the noises Republicans make when struck with fear  SpiralHawk   Dec-29-05 04:47 PM   #2 
  - That's what she thinks  bluestateguy   Dec-29-05 04:47 PM   #3 
  - Wouldn't vote for her if she were the only one running.  firefox   Dec-29-05 04:50 PM   #4 
  - Me neither  arewenotdemo   Dec-29-05 10:00 PM   #39 
  - She has the "Left" in her Back Pocket? Oh Boy!  radio4progressives   Dec-29-05 04:50 PM   #5 
  - Just keep thinking that, Senator  LittleClarkie   Dec-29-05 04:54 PM   #6 
  - Wrong.  patrice   Dec-29-05 04:56 PM   #7 
  - This is why I despise her. Her emptiness on core belief is the same  roguevalley   Dec-29-05 05:18 PM   #9 
  - The polling guy said she has the "left" in her back pocket  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 05:28 PM   #11 
     - I disagree with this  OhioBlues   Dec-29-05 05:37 PM   #14 
     - You're gonna be real surprised  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 05:56 PM   #17 
        - My question to you would then be;  OhioBlues   Dec-29-05 06:09 PM   #18 
        - She's not posing. And she's not following Republican talking points  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 07:18 PM   #21 
           - What is your problem?  OhioBlues   Dec-29-05 07:30 PM   #24 
           - You said Hillary is posing and that's not true, in fact it's a lie  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 08:26 PM   #30 
              - Ok, my opinion is not a lie it is my opinion  OhioBlues   Dec-30-05 07:00 AM   #49 
                 - Team Clinton is the most professional and battle tested  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 03:39 PM   #68 
                    - Really? "You have no choice but to settle for a DLC candidate or start...  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 05:01 PM   #70 
           - You miss the point entirely  MN ChimpH8R   Dec-30-05 11:36 AM   #64 
              - Very well put, MN ChimpH8r! Great post!  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 12:47 PM   #66 
              - If flag burning wasn't a real issue than the RepuKKKes wouldn't  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 05:17 PM   #72 
                 - Perhaps you and the other Hillaristas ought to go back to Constitution 101  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 06:47 PM   #75 
                    - Free speech isn't absolute and never has been  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 07:35 PM   #79 
                       - Tell that to the United States Supreme Court. You want to wipe your ass  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 08:35 PM   #83 
                          - I can't wait to see the first Dem candiate call her on it  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 08:54 PM   #84 
                             - That's Russ Feingold, not Feinstein, and he will be up to the task.  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 08:58 PM   #86 
                                - Answer in the form of a question---"It's the right thing to do"  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 09:21 PM   #90 
        - Did she really say that? I hadn't heard. Good for her if she did.  Auntie Bush   Dec-30-05 09:06 PM   #88 
     - You think "the masses" want "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton," eh?  flpoljunkie   Dec-29-05 06:26 PM   #19 
     - The Clinton's don't have a dynasty, they are just a working family  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 07:24 PM   #23 
        - A "Presidential succession" dynasty. Am not the first to use the term.  flpoljunkie   Dec-29-05 07:38 PM   #25 
           - All candidates are divisive by definition  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 08:02 PM   #27 
              - Sounds like a man with integrity, something sorely lacking in some Dems.  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 07:25 AM   #50 
              - Nope. I want to run a war hero who has a degree in  Clark2008   Dec-30-05 08:33 AM   #55 
                 - Never say never. Hillary will win AR, NM, FL, OH, CO,maybe more  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 03:34 PM   #67 
     - She may very well "beat them to the ground with actual voters"  Clark2008   Dec-30-05 08:30 AM   #54 
  - well, here's one leftie she doesn't have in ANY pocket . . .  OneBlueSky   Dec-29-05 05:25 PM   #10 
  - If that's what Hillary thinks..  sandnsea   Dec-29-05 05:29 PM   #12 
  - "She has the left in her back pocket"  MrMonk   Dec-29-05 05:37 PM   #15 
  - The best thing going for the Green Party is the DLC  chaumont58   Dec-29-05 06:43 PM   #20 
  - That wonderful green party that gave us the Bush regime  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 07:22 PM   #22 
     - I agree, Nader did give us chimpie  chaumont58   Dec-29-05 08:42 PM   #33 
        - hellooooo!!  radio4progressives   Dec-29-05 09:05 PM   #36 
        - You're right but Nadir provided a cover story and depressed Dem turnout  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 10:03 PM   #41 
           - Yahtzee. No point voting until the EVM "thing" is fixed. n/t  AtomicKitten   Dec-29-05 11:47 PM   #44 
        - The Democratic party is a poor platform to take on corporations  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 10:00 PM   #38 
           - We don't have to be trapped into a 2 Party System  radio4progressives   Dec-31-05 03:05 AM   #94 
  - All I know is  xkenx   Dec-29-05 07:56 PM   #26 
  - Clark has never won an election and Clinton's have won many  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 08:22 PM   #29 
  - Well Clinton won the Presidency twice thanks in big part to Perot  high density   Dec-29-05 08:33 PM   #31 
  - Clinton has won 1 election ....NY...and Clark has won 1--OK  Gloria   Dec-29-05 08:36 PM   #32 
  - The Clinton's are a proven winning team ready to hit the ground running  billbuckhead   Dec-29-05 08:43 PM   #35 
  - He won a primary - he has NEVER actually been the nominee  karynnj   Dec-29-05 11:15 PM   #43 
  - Which election did Clark win?  Andromeda   Dec-30-05 04:55 AM   #48 
     - Oklahoma primary  billbuckhead   Dec-30-05 07:37 PM   #80 
  - No, he wouldn't - as long as the Democrats had a  karynnj   Dec-29-05 11:14 PM   #42 
  - Hillary's only won one - what many?  Clark2008   Dec-30-05 08:37 AM   #56 
  - the Repubs already gave HRC their best shot. n/t  AtomicKitten   Dec-29-05 11:48 PM   #45 
     - not really, Guiliani 2000 was not the same as Guiliani post 911  karynnj   Dec-30-05 08:51 AM   #57 
        - really; I'm talking about while she was First Lady  AtomicKitten   Dec-30-05 10:42 AM   #61 
           - I'm sorry - I really got the comment wrong  karynnj   Dec-30-05 05:05 PM   #71 
              - no problem, the responses are circuitous  AtomicKitten   Dec-30-05 06:00 PM   #74 
  - "She has the left in her back pocket"  IndianaGreen   Dec-29-05 08:43 PM   #34 
  - Wow... AMEN to THAT! n/t  Totally Committed   Dec-30-05 12:13 PM   #65 
  - Remember that it wasn't Hillary that made that stupid statement.  MasonJar   Dec-29-05 09:43 PM   #37 
  - doesn't matter to these people if she said it or not ....  AtomicKitten   Dec-29-05 11:50 PM   #46 
  - I'm not in anyone's back pocket so I doubt many of the "left"  mmonk   Dec-29-05 10:02 PM   #40 
  - Great! That's just what we need.  Andromeda   Dec-30-05 04:46 AM   #47 
  - Only someone who felt they had the left in their back pocket would feel  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 08:13 AM   #51 
     - so you found a pundit that agrees with you  Cocoa   Dec-30-05 08:55 AM   #58 
     - So you and others here are intent on shoving Hillary down our throats.  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 09:28 AM   #59 
        - I don't like Hillary  Cocoa   Dec-30-05 09:59 AM   #60 
        - Great you are not among those trying to shove Hillary down our throats.  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 10:49 AM   #62 
        - Who cares about the Flag Protection Act?  Andromeda   Dec-30-05 06:56 PM   #76 
           - I consider our basic Constitutional rights important, and if Hillary  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 07:10 PM   #78 
     - Wow. You're right. Good questions too.  Skip Intro   Dec-30-05 09:43 PM   #91 
  - I can't even BEGIN to tell you how wrong this statement is:  Totally Committed   Dec-30-05 10:57 AM   #63 
  - The Hillaristas are getting a jump even before the New Year begins....!!!  election_2004   Dec-30-05 04:57 PM   #69 
  - Hillary is our Eva Peron!  IndianaGreen   Dec-30-05 05:31 PM   #73 
     - Hillaristas: they spawn like gnats....  election_2004   Dec-31-05 02:28 AM   #93 
  - THis maurice carrol sounds like  zidzi   Dec-30-05 07:46 PM   #82 
  - Precisely. Bush's.  robbedvoter   Dec-30-05 08:55 PM   #85 
  - To be fair, she didn't claim to have the left in her back pocket, MC did.  Skip Intro   Dec-30-05 09:02 PM   #87 
  - See Post #51.  flpoljunkie   Dec-30-05 09:11 PM   #89 
     - See post #91  Skip Intro   Dec-30-05 09:46 PM   #92 
        - Saw Post #91.  flpoljunkie   Dec-31-05 07:39 AM   #95 
  - My response to HC's year-end fund-raising letter  kenzee13   Dec-31-05 07:53 AM   #96 

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